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ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:48 AM 14 hrs ago

Meet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho.

His Daily Beast interview with Joanna Cole was this radical (tongue in cheek) feminist’s introduction, and I’m sold.

If you know very little about Graham Platner, he’s running against the establishment Democratic candidate for U.S. Senator from Maine. If he wins the primary, he’ll take on the very concerned Susan Collins. He’s supported by Bernie, Liz Warren, Chris Murphy and other good guys. I’d love to see him working shoulder-to-shoulder with the aforementioned, plus Sheldon Whitehouse, Tammy Duckworth, Ruben Gallego, Mark Kelly, Jon Ossoff, Raphael Warnock, etc.

The way he handled every question was a wonder to behold. Plainspoken, credible, masculine-in-the-good-way, this ex-Marine (current oyster farmer) who fought in Iraq & Afghanistan deserves all the support we can provide. He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version, and get universal healthcare (i.e. Medicare For All) passed, once and for all.

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And yes, the interview addresses the “scandals” of his past—in a most satisfactory way, I might add. Oh, and ignore the click-bait, sensationalistic YouTube title.

https://www.grahamforsenate.com/
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Meet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho. (Original Post) ariadne0614 14 hrs ago OP
Question JustAnotherGen 14 hrs ago #1
I guess you didn't watch the interview. n/t ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #3
use your gut berksdem 13 hrs ago #6
Watch the interview, or not. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #8
I already watched it thanks. berksdem 13 hrs ago #10
I do hold him accountable, and his responses to tough questions impressed me. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #17
His Reddit posts were discussed, but please explain how to look them up with one's guts. n/t ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #21
don't get mad berksdem 13 hrs ago #24
Autumn is on my side, and you're mistaking enthusiasm for swooning. ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #32
JFC berksdem 11 hrs ago #48
Calm down. ariadne0614 10 hrs ago #60
I've never in my life heard any self-described "radical feminist" say that an average white guy had "potent magic" but WhiskeyGrinder 11 hrs ago #52
I am a wonderment, it is true. n/t ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #108
Post removed Post removed 10 hrs ago #65
I appreciate your terror. ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #97
Nope fuck this guy. His judgment is shit. WhiskeyGrinder 13 hrs ago #2
You do you. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #7
I listened to him and I am fine with his explaations. I like him. Young and has gotten his Autumn 13 hrs ago #11
Thank you Autumn. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #14
As for the tattoo nonsense I have known many young people who have tattoos that Autumn 13 hrs ago #16
He's got some potent magic. n/t ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #22
Getting a Nazi death head tattoo is bad, leaving it on for over decade is worse IMO EX500rider 10 hrs ago #55
And he explained the tattoo he and his fellow soldiers got. nt Autumn 10 hrs ago #58
Again getting a Nazi SS tattoo while drunk on leave is one thing, leaving it there for over a decade is another IMO YMMV EX500rider 10 hrs ago #62
Yah, if all the other soldiers are doing it, it must be okay! betsuni 10 hrs ago #67
You may not know this but men who serve together have a tight bond. nt Autumn 10 hrs ago #72
No ne in my family in the military ever got a Nazi tat obamanut2012 9 hrs ago #80
When he found out it was a nazi tattoo he had it covered. So AFAIC that's the end of that. Autumn 9 hrs ago #85
This is an awfully slippery slope nt mr715 9 hrs ago #81
So, you know people who got Nazi tats and still have them over a decade later? obamanut2012 9 hrs ago #79
You are doing exactly what the RW does obamanut2012 9 hrs ago #78
I'm lost on this one. ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #110
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 9 hrs ago #75
I like Democrats who don't have Nazi problems in their past, personally. tritsofme 13 hrs ago #4
If I thought for one minute he was a Nazi, I wouldn't have posted the interview. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #12
Plenty of posts about him here MichMan 12 hrs ago #25
Thanks. ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #29
It wasn't just a "past" problem.... TommyT139 11 hrs ago #43
The "establishment" lol awesomerwb1 13 hrs ago #5
Actually, if I lived in Maine, I'd work my heart out for him. n/t ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #26
Good for you. I'm sure questionable people like this crazy dude need the money awesomerwb1 12 hrs ago #30
It's seriously difficult to imagine watching this interview and concluding he's crazy. ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #31
It's not. Do you like his Nazi tattoo as well? awesomerwb1 12 hrs ago #33
Is that a serious question? ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #36
lol Of course he's gonna "own up" awesomerwb1 12 hrs ago #38
Because Trump has made owning up all the fashion on the Nazi side of the equation. ariadne0614 10 hrs ago #63
He did plenty of stupid stuff when he was over 30, too. WhiskeyGrinder 10 hrs ago #64
He isn't just turning 21! mr715 9 hrs ago #82
It's cute how you think you're the first one to "introduce" awesomerwb1 10 hrs ago #66
His opponent, Janet Mills: Jack Valentino 1 hr ago #120
I'm sure they would make me cringe. ariadne0614 10 hrs ago #70
"This doesn't sound like something your average Nazi would do." lol what WhiskeyGrinder 11 hrs ago #51
as if he and his mommy aren't the establishment thebigidea 9 hrs ago #89
Remember when Fetterman was the be all to save all..... Historic NY 13 hrs ago #9
My gut told me from the beginning that there was something off about Fetterman. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #13
So you didn't agree with the judgement of Sanders regarding Fetterman but say we should trust his judgement here? W_HAMILTON 11 hrs ago #44
I never once saw him that way. I saw him clearly for what he is. Autumn 13 hrs ago #23
I'm more impressed... 2naSalit 13 hrs ago #15
I'm sure Governor Mills is a fine person. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #19
Are you... 2naSalit 13 hrs ago #20
No, I'm just an American who would love to see Democrats take back the Senate. n/t ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #27
Mills is the AIPAC candidate and so whoever the republican nominee will be aipac supported questionseverything 12 hrs ago #34
Maine Senate Race Moves To Toss Up With Mills' Entrance LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #84
He's drawing crowds of elderly people leftstreet 13 hrs ago #18
Interesting. I didn't use my gut to find information on endorsements. ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #28
"...on both sides..." TommyT139 11 hrs ago #46
Yes! ariadne0614 11 hrs ago #49
I was referring TommyT139 8 hrs ago #92
I think its more like, he is the key to ensuring Susan Collins gets another term FascismIsDeath 12 hrs ago #35
Perhaps not. ariadne0614 10 hrs ago #59
Some people say he rzemanfl 12 hrs ago #37
I don't understand "one white guy who can save the Democratic Party from itself." betsuni 12 hrs ago #39
In 2007 a Marine Gunnery Sgt. estimated that 92% of about 8,000 Marines rzemanfl 11 hrs ago #40
You get that it was a very specific skull and crossbones that was a hallmark of the SS, right? Not the Jolly Roger? WhiskeyGrinder 11 hrs ago #45
I have not seen a picture. Have you? rzemanfl 10 hrs ago #54
I'm familiar with the totenkopf, and the video and screenshots that went around a lot last October make it clear that's WhiskeyGrinder 10 hrs ago #57
This tattoo? Quite plainly the SS-Totenkopf tattoo EX500rider 10 hrs ago #61
Agreed. n/t rzemanfl 10 hrs ago #68
I agree the tattoo is a Nazi Death Head (totenkopf). rzemanfl 10 hrs ago #73
Seriously? Cirsium 9 hrs ago #88
Thank you. rzemanfl 8 hrs ago #91
Hey, thanks for listening in good faith. WhiskeyGrinder 5 hrs ago #100
Maybe the tattooist rzemanfl 4 hrs ago #109
They said the same about John Fetterman. W_HAMILTON 11 hrs ago #41
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 11 hrs ago #42
I doubt his crowds are "Genocide Joe" people leftstreet 11 hrs ago #47
Another start at the top political con. delisen 11 hrs ago #50
If I recall the same views were expressed how Fetterman was the "great liberal hope" over the "establishment" lostincalifornia 11 hrs ago #53
I don't live in Maine mountain grammy 10 hrs ago #56
I do live in Maine chelsea0011 8 hrs ago #93
Thank you for your response. I have a couple of questions. mountain grammy 7 hrs ago #95
All that matters to me right now is winning elections BannonsLiver 10 hrs ago #69
Judging from only this one interview, I think he would agree with you. n/t ariadne0614 10 hrs ago #71
This is why we have primaries. nt mr715 10 hrs ago #74
He is problematic. mr715 9 hrs ago #76
lol no, I want someone without Nazi tats, who doesn't hit women and who didn't work as a mercenary obamanut2012 9 hrs ago #77
MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #83
This post, on its own, would give pause to any reasonable voter. ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #113
I watched the entire video, I like him. Americanme 9 hrs ago #86
I don't believe in saviors, I believe in passing legislation that helps my family thebigidea 9 hrs ago #87
I don't believe in saviors either. ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #105
Curious MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #90
If Democrats win back the Senate, the pressure will come from fed up We the People. n/t ariadne0614 8 hrs ago #94
Do you truly believe that tsf would actually sign it or... sheshe2 5 hrs ago #104
Yup, we need both the House and Senate. n/t ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #114
That's not enough if the president won't sign it. sheshe2 2 hrs ago #118
Call me delusional, but if our side regains the Senate and House, then anything is possible if ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #103
Sorry. This is the kind of unicorn thinking that turned me off of the Sanders movement. Blasphemer 1 hr ago #121
The DSCC and Janet Mills have formed a joint fundraising committee together. LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #96
Sincere question. ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #99
I am Jewish and have an issue with someone with a NAZI tattoo LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #107
I have deep respect your preference. ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #112
I don't understand the "one white guy" headline. Was that in an article or something? marmar 5 hrs ago #98
Fair question. ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #101
I'll be voting for Janet Mill's in the primary. If your candidate wins, I will vote for him. OAITW r.2.0 5 hrs ago #102
Makes perfect sense to me. n/t ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #106
Ranked Choice voting,,,,democracy in action. OAITW r.2.0 4 hrs ago #111
I'm all in favor of ranked choice voting. ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #115
Gov. MAGA Paul got elected in Maine when 60+% voted for two other candidates..... OAITW r.2.0 3 hrs ago #116
Oh boy! Let the rebranding begin! Iggo 3 hrs ago #117
Still? Really? Has Trump taught us nothing. Gimme a break. nt Blasphemer 2 hrs ago #119
Running against the Democratic Party: Establishment beholden to corporate interests ignore working class, both sides. betsuni 23 min ago #122

JustAnotherGen

(37,662 posts)
1. Question
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:52 AM
14 hrs ago

Are you okay with Pete Kegsbreath's Nazi / White Supremacist Tattoos?

Platner has some too.

I want to make sure people are being consistent here.

I'm terrified of the Democratic Party Returning to the Raw Deal for Black Americans who had been here since 1619.

It's also a return to the status quo. That's not acceptable. We need public hangings, life imprisonment, life long loss of voting etc. etc.

I'd fear this guy turns out to be another Fetterman - always taking sides with the right.

berksdem

(902 posts)
10. I already watched it thanks.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:15 PM
13 hrs ago

Now, hold him to accountability like we hold people on the right.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
17. I do hold him accountable, and his responses to tough questions impressed me.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:32 PM
13 hrs ago

It’s interesting that you watched the entire interview. I’d love to know which of his responses were unsatisfactory, and whether his demeanor offended you in any way.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
21. His Reddit posts were discussed, but please explain how to look them up with one's guts. n/t
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:48 PM
13 hrs ago

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
32. Autumn is on my side, and you're mistaking enthusiasm for swooning.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:20 PM
12 hrs ago

BTW, radical feminists don’t swoon, especially over close-minded white men. Are you attempting to bully an elderly woman (and fellow DUer) into sitting down and shutting up? I intend to defend my OP until the bitter end.

berksdem

(902 posts)
48. JFC
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:45 PM
11 hrs ago

you must be a real treat at parties. nobody is bullying you and how the heck would I know if you are a female or male let alone a radical feminist.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,501 posts)
52. I've never in my life heard any self-described "radical feminist" say that an average white guy had "potent magic" but
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:50 PM
11 hrs ago

every day can bring wonders I guess

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
97. I appreciate your terror.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:22 PM
5 hrs ago

We can agree on your New Deal point. I’m thinking more along the lines of striving toward a more perfect union, and he gave me the strong impression that he feels the same way. Repeating the failings of the New Deal era would be unacceptable, but a solid foundation was laid.

You lost me with the notion of public hangings, etc. That would be a return to the status quo of previous times of horror. Life imprisonment without parole for the worst of the worst works for me, with the caveat that the convicts would be made available as objects of study by historians, sociologists, neuroscientists, psychologists, etc. Their personal privacy would be forfeited in favor of regular reports to the public. Findings would be used to pass laws, and used in (age appropriate, of course) mandatory civics classes in every K-12 public school curriculum.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
7. You do you.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:12 PM
13 hrs ago

Based on the comments so far, I’m guessing the right wing/oligarch message machine is working overtime to discredit this guy. Since I don’t know you or the other naysayers, I’m going with the judgement of Bernie and Liz Warren, and the vibe I get from him in this interview.

I do hope others will watch the interview and judge for themselves.

Autumn

(48,786 posts)
11. I listened to him and I am fine with his explaations. I like him. Young and has gotten his
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:18 PM
13 hrs ago

head on straight.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
14. Thank you Autumn.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:26 PM
13 hrs ago

That’s my assessment as well, after paying close attention to politics and politicians since the Watergate era.

Autumn

(48,786 posts)
16. As for the tattoo nonsense I have known many young people who have tattoos that
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:32 PM
13 hrs ago

they have gotten with comrades that were supposed to mean one thing but turned out to mean something else. I like the guy.

EX500rider

(12,219 posts)
55. Getting a Nazi death head tattoo is bad, leaving it on for over decade is worse IMO
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:59 PM
10 hrs ago

EX500rider

(12,219 posts)
62. Again getting a Nazi SS tattoo while drunk on leave is one thing, leaving it there for over a decade is another IMO YMMV
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:08 PM
10 hrs ago

obamanut2012

(29,208 posts)
80. No ne in my family in the military ever got a Nazi tat
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:04 PM
9 hrs ago

And, they have served this country since the French and Indian Wars. Including my BIL, who fought in Iraq, and he and his military buddies never felt the need to bond by lauding Nazis on their skin.

Autumn

(48,786 posts)
85. When he found out it was a nazi tattoo he had it covered. So AFAIC that's the end of that.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:19 PM
9 hrs ago
https://apnews.com/article/maine-platner-senate-trump-mills-tattoo-collins-fa8328a3c8aa5d5e0f34adb379e977b8

The first-time political candidate said he got the skull and crossbones tattoo in 2007, when he was in his 20s and in the Marine Corps. It happened during a night of drinking while he was on leave in Croatia, he said, adding he was unaware until recently that the image has been associated with Nazi police.

Platner’s campaign initially said he would remove the tattoo, yet Platner said he later chose to cover it up with another tattoo due to the limited options where he lives in rural Maine.“Going to a tattoo removal place is going to take a while,” he said. “I wanted this thing off my body.”

The initial tattoo image resembled a specific symbol of Hitler’s paramilitary Schutzstaffel, or SS, which was responsible for the systematic murders of millions of Jews and others in Europe during World War II.

A Celtic knot and a dog-like creature
The new tattoo, completed late Tuesday, now is a Celtic knot with a dog-like creature splayed in the middle of it. The animal has four gangly legs and an elongated head with a curly tongue spiraling out. The image is mostly filled in with black ink, but the Celtic knot is green.


obamanut2012

(29,208 posts)
78. You are doing exactly what the RW does
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:02 PM
9 hrs ago

If someone disagrees with you, you are saying they are brainwashed.

For alerters: I am not saying OP is RW, I am saying they are using some of the same strategies when folks disagree with them.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
110. I'm lost on this one.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:17 PM
4 hrs ago

It would help to know which RW strategies you believe I employed with people who disagreed with me. I enjoy living and learning, and engaging civil discourse. I think it’s considered part of democratic process.

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

tritsofme

(19,819 posts)
4. I like Democrats who don't have Nazi problems in their past, personally.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:04 PM
13 hrs ago

Happy to leave that as the exclusive domain of the Trumpers.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
12. If I thought for one minute he was a Nazi, I wouldn't have posted the interview.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:21 PM
13 hrs ago

However, I have an open mind, and always seek the unvarnished truth. Please cite your sources, which I will consider. In return, it would add to your credibility if you have given him the chance to explain himself.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
29. Thanks.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:05 PM
12 hrs ago

They didn’t show up when I did an advanced search of his name before posting my OP. I’ll check them out after I make lunch and prep vegetables for dinner.

TommyT139

(2,181 posts)
43. It wasn't just a "past" problem....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:22 PM
11 hrs ago

...since he went all those years not thinking about what his body communicated to anyone who saw him at the beach (for instance). That completely undercuts his attempts to distance himself from his decisions.

If he's a decent guy, he'll continue to do public good, watch what he posts/emails, and maybe in the future, fine.

A guy who gets Nazi tattoos removed only after getting questioned about them isn't ready to defend a state against fascists.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
31. It's seriously difficult to imagine watching this interview and concluding he's crazy.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:11 PM
12 hrs ago

We must be viewing him through radically different lenses.

awesomerwb1

(5,007 posts)
33. It's not. Do you like his Nazi tattoo as well?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:21 PM
12 hrs ago

It's difficult to read his disgraceful posts from not that long ago and conclude he's a good Dem candidate.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
36. Is that a serious question?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:37 PM
12 hrs ago

Are you proud of everything you’ve ever said and done? Have you owned up to your worst mistakes and errors in judgement? It seems to me that he’s done so, in public.

I know, I know. Democratic candidates must be practically perfect, in every way.

What I do know is that the right wing will do whatever it takes to take him down, with the help of quite a few Democrats, it seems.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
63. Because Trump has made owning up all the fashion on the Nazi side of the equation.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:14 PM
10 hrs ago

Yes, he’s a candidate, and he also happens to be a 41-year old human being who did stupid stuff when he was under 30. Funny how that works.

Did you happen to see the reply about his tattoo?

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,501 posts)
64. He did plenty of stupid stuff when he was over 30, too.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:17 PM
10 hrs ago

Walking around with a totenkopf tattoo for YEARS instead of getting rid of it ranks right on up there.

awesomerwb1

(5,007 posts)
66. It's cute how you think you're the first one to "introduce"
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:18 PM
10 hrs ago

this dude to DU.

He's a bad candidate with a lot of baggage. Bye.

Jack Valentino

(4,478 posts)
120. His opponent, Janet Mills:
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:56 PM
1 hr ago

Based on her actions as Governor of Maine leading into her 2025-2026 U.S. Senate campaign, Janet Mills has developed a record that has drawn criticism from the progressive wing of the Democratic party. While she is viewed as a moderate and a key opponent of1 Donald Trump, her, use of the veto pen on labor, housing, and tribal issues, along with a fiscally conservative approach, has created friction with the left.
Here are the specific, more conservative actions taken by Governor Mills that have made her less acceptable to the progressive left:

1. Vetoing Key Labor and Worker Rights Bills
Opposed Expanded Collective Bargaining: Mills vetoed legislation in 2024 that would have strengthened collective bargaining rights by banning anti-union intimidation tactics.
Axed Noncompete Agreement Ban: She killed a bill that would have banned restrictive noncompete agreements, which labor advocates argued restricted worker mobility.
Weakened Farmworker Protections: While she eventually signed a version of a bill setting a $14.65 minimum wage for farmworkers, she removed critical enforcement provisions, limiting its impact.
Vetoed "Buy Local" Requirements: She vetoed legislation that would have required state government contracts to prioritize local Maine businesses over multinational corporations.
Opposed Overtime Protections: She vetoed a bill that would have required the state to study the issue of paper mill workers being forced to work excessive overtime.

2. Fiscal and Economic Conservatism
Conservative Budgeting/Surplus Retention: Critics from the left argue that Mills’ administration has been too conservative in forecasting, resulting in unnecessary, large budget surpluses rather than investing in social programs or infrastructure.
Opposed Raising Taxes on the Wealthy: She opposed 2024 tax reform proposals intended to raise taxes on wealthy residents to balance the budget, drawing criticism for prioritizing corporate interests.
Opposed Rent Control/Tenant Protection: In 2019, she blocked tenant protection reforms that would have mandated more notice before rent hikes and evictions, citing burdens on business.

3. Stances on Social and Justice Issues
Vetoed Youth Prison Closure: A significant point of criticism from progressives was her veto of a proposal to close the Long Creek Youth Development Center, a facility critics have described as unsafe and punitive.
"Yellow Flag" Gun Law Defense: Following the 2023 Lewiston mass shooting, she resisted calls for a "Red Flag" law (which allows for the temporary removal of firearms from dangerous individuals), choosing instead to stand by Maine’s existing "Yellow Flag" law, which is seen as a compromise by gun control advocates.
Supported Filibuster: Mills has stated her support for retaining the U.S. Senate filibuster, which many progressive Democrats want to eliminate to pass legislation with a simple majority.
Opposition to Drug Decriminalization: She has expressed opposition to the decriminalization of drug possession, putting her at odds with reformers on the far left.

4. Tribal Relations and Environmental Issues
Vetoed Tribal Sovereignty Bills: Mills has faced intense backlash for vetoing legislation aimed at enhancing tribal sovereignty, including a bill that would have ensured Wabanaki Nations received the same federal rights as other Native American tribes.
Legal Challenges Against Tribes: As governor, her administration has been accused of "environmental racism" by tribal leaders for legal challenges involving water quality standards and fishing rights on the Penobscot River.

5. Environmental Policy
Stance on Clean Energy Jobs: She killed a permitting reform bill designed to accelerate offshore wind projects because it included a mandate for union jobs, a move that drew ire from labor-aligned environmentalists.

6. Opposing Federal Action
Criticized ACA Subsidy Deal: In late 2025, she drew criticism for calling a bipartisan deal to reopen the federal government a "lousy deal," arguing it didn't do enough to immediately address Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) subsidies, a move seen by some as obstructionist rather than constructive.
These actions have caused her support among Democrats to drop in some polls, leading to a competitive primary challenge from progressive candidates in her bid for the Senate, particularly with support from figures like Bernie Sanders for her opponents.


Most of those things 'give me "pause' over Janet Mills--- more than what some say was a 'nazi tattoo' that Platner has since covered up.....
which most likely was not labeled as a 'nazi tattoo' at the tattoo shop where he got it....


It's up to the Democratic primary voters in Maine, I will support whomever they nominate as an out-stater---
but some of the things Mills has actually DONE against progressive policy
concern me a little more than anything Platner had tattooed on his body which he has since covered up...


ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
70. I'm sure they would make me cringe.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:36 PM
10 hrs ago

Nevertheless, don’t be surprised if it turns out you’ve drawn the wrong conclusions. For my part, I will maintain an open mind and continue to assess the situation. Until then, I like him.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
13. My gut told me from the beginning that there was something off about Fetterman.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:22 PM
13 hrs ago

Platner is no Fetterman.

W_HAMILTON

(10,120 posts)
44. So you didn't agree with the judgement of Sanders regarding Fetterman but say we should trust his judgement here?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:24 PM
11 hrs ago

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
19. I'm sure Governor Mills is a fine person.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:44 PM
13 hrs ago

However, being a septuagenarian myself, it seems folly to choose someone who would be well into her 80s by the end of her first term. We need to make way for dynamic leadership from the generations who will be left with they’re inheriting from us.

questionseverything

(11,642 posts)
34. Mills is the AIPAC candidate and so whoever the republican nominee will be aipac supported
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:22 PM
12 hrs ago

Last edited Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Adding to my original post, I don’t think AIPAC approved candidates are a good thing, I think the opposite as I don’t support the genocide Israel has unleashed on Gaza or the West Bank

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,625 posts)
84. Maine Senate Race Moves To Toss Up With Mills' Entrance
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:17 PM
9 hrs ago

Mills is clearly more electable than any other candidate

Maine Gov. Janet Mills’ entrance into the Senate race on Tuesday marks a significant escalation in political firepower aimed at longtime GOP Sen. Susan Collins. We are moving the contest from Lean R -> Toss Up.

The Cook Political Report (@cookpolitical.com) 2025-10-14T13:38:17.516Z

https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/maine-senate/maine-senate-race-moves-toss-mills-entrance

Maine Gov. Janet Mills’ entrance into the Senate race on Tuesday marks a significant escalation in political firepower aimed at longtime GOP Sen. Susan Collins, the only Republican senator representing a state carried by then-Vice President Kamala Harris in 2024. For the first time since she was elected in 1996, Collins could face off against a sitting statewide officeholder who, like her, has a proven track record of outperforming the presidential ticket of her party.

Mills, of course, does not have a clear path to the nomination, and there is no guarantee that she will win it. But she is a top-tier recruit in a field that currently lacks a well-known or well-established candidate. And while Collins has defied electoral expectations for decades, the political environment today is more polarized than ever, which makes Collins’ ability to effectively straddle partisan lines more challenging.

As such, we are moving the contest from Lean Republican to Toss Up.

There are several other Democrats in the race, but oyster farmer and first-time political candidate Graham Platner appears to be Mills’ most serious

leftstreet

(39,035 posts)
18. He's drawing crowds of elderly people
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:38 PM
13 hrs ago

Which isn't surprising given that Maine has the "oldest" average population of all the states

If he's the nominee, it'll be interesting to see how it translates to election numbers vs Collins (or the GOPer who runs instead)

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
49. Yes!
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:46 PM
11 hrs ago

It works on multiple levels, but you can’t use your gut to grasp the subtleties.

FascismIsDeath

(68 posts)
35. I think its more like, he is the key to ensuring Susan Collins gets another term
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:23 PM
12 hrs ago

This guy has way too much baggage.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
59. Perhaps not.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:02 PM
10 hrs ago

The zeitgeist suggests to me, that the Democrats are Jonesing for fighters. He’s a fighter.

To be fair, my desire to see a female president before I die has taken a back seat to my bitter recognition that our culture is still too consumed by misogyny and sexism to change in time—on both sides. Therefore, my heart and head are open to a white man who has the moral and intellectual integrity to learn and grow into a more evolved definition of “manhood.” If that makes me timid, I’ll cop to it.

Based on the interview, his comments on Susan Collins convinced me that her time is over. He’s talked to a lot of rural Maine voters.

rzemanfl

(31,195 posts)
37. Some people say he
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:43 PM
12 hrs ago

went into the oyster business because he thought it might help his wife conceive.

Don’t most Marines have tattoos? When I have a better device I will post
a link to an article about tattoos and the Marine culture,


betsuni

(28,790 posts)
39. I don't understand "one white guy who can save the Democratic Party from itself."
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:53 PM
12 hrs ago

What does that mean?

rzemanfl

(31,195 posts)
40. In 2007 a Marine Gunnery Sgt. estimated that 92% of about 8,000 Marines
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:02 PM
11 hrs ago

he briefed on the subject of tattoos had at least one.

https://www.miramar-ems.marines.mil/News/News-Article-Display/Article/556982/to-ink-or-not-to-inknew-regulations-answer-the-question/

Maybe a skull and crossbones tattoo would look better with an eye patch or a pegleg, but I don't think it should be disqualifying

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,501 posts)
45. You get that it was a very specific skull and crossbones that was a hallmark of the SS, right? Not the Jolly Roger?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:25 PM
11 hrs ago

rzemanfl

(31,195 posts)
54. I have not seen a picture. Have you?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:55 PM
10 hrs ago

The SS skull is very distinctive. The pirate and poison skull and crossbones are virtually identical, although the position of the bones, either behind or below the skull varies in both. The SS skull has much shorter bones that are behind the skull and appear to be stacked on top of each other.

On edit, there is a picture of the tattoo up thread I hadn't seen when I wrote the above. It sure looks like a Nazi death head to me, although the skull seems tilted.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,501 posts)
57. I'm familiar with the totenkopf, and the video and screenshots that went around a lot last October make it clear that's
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:00 PM
10 hrs ago

what it was.

https://themainemonitor.org/platner-tattoo-nazi-totenkopf/

He called it "my totenkopf" as well, according to a former campaign official.

rzemanfl

(31,195 posts)
73. I agree the tattoo is a Nazi Death Head (totenkopf).
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:41 PM
10 hrs ago

I find it odd that a Croatian tattoo artist would be doing these tattoos. Croatia was a Nazi puppet state during World War II.
Of course, I also find it odd that Americans whose fathers fought the Nazis support Trump's fascism. Go figure.

Cirsium

(3,430 posts)
88. Seriously?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:47 PM
9 hrs ago

That doesn't surprise me at all. Neo-Nazi movements and historical revisionism are rampant in the former Warsaw Pact countries. Croatia, Slovakia, Lithuania and Ukraine were full of unapologetic Nazi collaborators and war criminals, many never held to account, supported by the US as "anti-Communists" and their crimes were largely white washed.

Pro-Nazi singer sells out Zagreb arena as Croatia’s collaborationist past sheds its taboo

Croatian Jews say little effort is made to tamp down valorization of the brutal Ustaše collaborationist regime.

Next month marks the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II as well as the collapse of the Ustaše regime, the Nazi puppet government formally known as the Independent State of Croatia. Its territory — which encompassed much of today’s Croatia as well as neighboring Bosnia and parts of modern-day Serbia — housed around 30 concentration camps including Jasenovac and two camps specifically for children, Jastrebarsko and Sisak.

During its reign of terror, the Ustaše regime persecuted and murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews and Roma, as well as Croatians opposed to their rule. The Catholic Church openly collaborated with the Ustaše, whose support came largely from young men with rural, blue-collar, uneducated backgrounds.

In 2016, Croatia’s then-president posed with a Ustaše flag during a trip to Canada, despite having previously expressed regret about the regime during a state trip to Israel. Today, nationalist sympathizers continue to use the prohibited, yet increasingly tolerated, slogan “Za Dom Spremni” (Defend the Homeland) — the Ustaše equivalent of the Nazi “Sieg Heil.”

In a sign of how widespread Nazi sentiments may be, Marko Perkovic, a Croatian singer who goes by Thompson, known for his Nazi sympathies, has sold more than 500,000 tickets for an outdoor concert in July. Tena Banjeglav, program coordinator at Documenta: Center for Dealing With the Past, a Zagreb-based nonprofit group, notes that Nazi signs have potent symbolism for some Croatians.

https://forward.com/news/716692/pro-nazi-singer-sells-out-zagreb-arena-as-croatias-collaborationist-past-sheds-its-taboo/

rzemanfl

(31,195 posts)
91. Thank you.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:08 PM
8 hrs ago

I was not aware of any of this. Now I am wondering if the tattooist enjoyed inking Nazi symbols into the skins of American troops.

rzemanfl

(31,195 posts)
109. Maybe the tattooist
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:16 PM
4 hrs ago

charged the drunken Americans and got another check from the party as well.

Response to ariadne0614 (Original post)

leftstreet

(39,035 posts)
47. I doubt his crowds are "Genocide Joe" people
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:27 PM
11 hrs ago

Looking at feedback, they're older, somewhat conservative, and unhappy with Collins

Unless you're just referring to the online noise

delisen

(7,253 posts)
50. Another start at the top political con.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:47 PM
11 hrs ago

One conman is destroying us because too many Americans yearn for a political savior. The masked man who rides in a white horse and whips everything into shape.

lostincalifornia

(4,956 posts)
53. If I recall the same views were expressed how Fetterman was the "great liberal hope" over the "establishment"
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:52 PM
11 hrs ago

Conner Lamb.

That worked out real well.

It took only how many years before he though a nazi tattoo wasn't a good look?

Judgement is everything.





mountain grammy

(28,743 posts)
56. I don't live in Maine
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:59 PM
10 hrs ago

I won't trash either Democrat running in the primary.. it's up to Maine voters.

I will be donating to whoever is the Democratic primary choice for Senator.

I'm satisfied that Platner has addressed his problems.. I honestly don't think it's so serious..Right now I just want them to run on policies and the future they want for Maine and America..

We need Collins out!!! That's all we should be focused on. She is our enemy, not Democrat Platner or Democrat Mills..

chelsea0011

(10,209 posts)
93. I do live in Maine
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:14 PM
8 hrs ago

You are right to say beating Collins is first on the list Platner was said to be thinking about running for 2nd Congressional District in ME. He should. Le Page is back from his home in FL to run for office again. That lunatic needs to be stopped also. And I believe him about not knowing the tat origin story. I read and watch a lot of WWll history and am unaware of that insignia. He can’t beat Mills so his run will be all for not and we will lose a congressional seat.

mountain grammy

(28,743 posts)
95. Thank you for your response. I have a couple of questions.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 06:25 PM
7 hrs ago

Is there any democrat running in your second district? If not is the end of the primary too late to run for the office? I don’t know Maine’s rules on how this works, and when someone can file to run for office.
Yes, it would be a shame to give up a house seat that is winnable. The most important thing to be focused on is beating Republicans that is it. So yes, if no Democrat is running in the second district he should run there or maybe Mills should.

Thanks again for your response. I love Maine. Haven’t been there for 50 years but many fond memories Beautiful state. Hopefully will get back one of these days.

BannonsLiver

(20,303 posts)
69. All that matters to me right now is winning elections
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:27 PM
10 hrs ago

I don’t care about his tattoos or his purity score on bullshit culture war identity politics issues rammed down our collective throats by special interest groups who care about their own personal wants more than actually winning elections. If he can win, then great. If he can’t then he needs to get out of the way.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
71. Judging from only this one interview, I think he would agree with you. n/t
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:40 PM
10 hrs ago

I didn’t get the impression that he was ever interested in running for office.

mr715

(2,848 posts)
76. He is problematic.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM
9 hrs ago

I question his judgement and I think the 'old' v 'young' framing is a bit fallacious - the dude is an adult, and there are standards.

It is good to have electricity, but he needs to earn my support. He can do that by establishing a little more Democratic credibility - run for House and win. Run for Mayor of Portland for that matter. Be a Democrat and market yourself as such: if you want to be a part of this party, you gotta share your "potent magic". Senate is a pretty entitled take.

Yeah, I get it. We get people that can make a strong populist message and cloak themselves in "anti-establishment" mojo, but when you aren't elected and already eliciting scandal, give me the bland Democrat that won statewide.

Covering up the tattoo was the first step on the road to Damascus.



obamanut2012

(29,208 posts)
77. lol no, I want someone without Nazi tats, who doesn't hit women and who didn't work as a mercenary
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM
9 hrs ago

He also is a bit of a fake populist.

Janet Mills is perfectly fine for now.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,625 posts)
83. MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:14 PM
9 hrs ago

Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.

“Maine’s Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record — and a tattoo: Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.“ www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

(@halfmarshall.bsky.social) 2025-10-23T01:57:13.441Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/maines-graham-platner-faces-difficult-questions-record-tattoo-rcna239152

Things changed, however, when Platner’s honeymoon period came to a rather sudden end.

The first sign of trouble came to the fore last week, when Politico reported that Platner “once suggested in online posts that violence is a necessary means to achieving social change.” Around the same time, CNN reported on since-deleted comments Platner had made online in which he “once called himself a ‘communist,’ dismissed ‘all’ police as bastards, and said rural White Americans ’actually are’ racist and stupid.”

The candidate disavowed his earlier rhetoric, but other revelations soon followed. Indeed, also last week, The Bangor Daily News reported that Platner also posted messages online in which he asked why Black people “don’t tip” and suggested people concerned about being raped shouldn’t be inebriated around people they don’t feel comfortable with.

After that report reached the public, Platner’s political director resigned.

That was late last week. This week, we learned about the Senate hopeful’s choice in tattoos. Politico reported:

Democratic Maine Senate hopeful Graham Platner expressed regret over getting a tattoo that appears similar to a Nazi symbol nearly two decades ago and plans to have it removed, his latest mea culpa after a week of damning headlines over resurfaced social media posts. ... Platner reiterated that he got the tattoo while out drinking with fellow Marines in Croatia, choosing the skull and crossbones off a wall at the tattoo parlor. He said the similarity to Nazi iconography never came up, including when he underwent physical exams mandated by the U.S. Army, which prohibits tattoos of identified hate symbols.


In other words, Platner’s defense is that he didn’t know he had a tattoo on his chest that resembles a Nazi symbol. What’s more, on Wednesday morning, he and his team said the image has now been covered......

Whether or not that’s true, once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.

Democratic officials had already started rallying behind Mills, who has said she’ll only serve one term if elected. In light of the revelations about Platner’s record, it’s likely that party support will intensify. Watch this space.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
113. This post, on its own, would give pause to any reasonable voter.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:43 PM
4 hrs ago

I appreciate the bounty of information being provided in many replies to my OP. Nevertheless, as challenging as his candidacy may be, I like this guy. Call it radical feminist intuition. Complexity doesn’t scare me.

Americanme

(396 posts)
86. I watched the entire video, I like him.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:39 PM
9 hrs ago

He's not perfect, but I like him. I like his position on health care, labor unions, and ending politics as usual. The comments on Reddit from 6 years ago and 13 years ago? Most of us have commented things we later had second thoughts about. The nazi tattoo? I believe him that he picked it off the wall, and had no idea that it was a hate symbol. People that don't believe that must not spend much time in tattoo shops. Most flash sheets of designs are grouped by theme, as in, a bunch of skull designs. They are not labeled pirate skull, nazi skull, etc. Just a bunch of skulls, if you think it looks cool, you get it. I never heard the word totenkopf in all my 63 years before now. I believe the guy, and I like what he is saying.

thebigidea

(13,561 posts)
87. I don't believe in saviors, I believe in passing legislation that helps my family
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:45 PM
9 hrs ago

"He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version"

As if that's a matter of choice and not FDR having a HUGE FUCKING SUPERMAJORITY. Gosh, if only previous democrats had the brilliant idea to have a huge fucking supermajority too.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
105. I don't believe in saviors either.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:51 PM
5 hrs ago

What I believe in is an informed and engaged electorate clamoring for better messaging from Democratic candidates. They are few and far between. This guy has the communication skills to deliver a message. That makes him a critical component in a unified effort.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,246 posts)
90. Curious
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:58 PM
8 hrs ago

"He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version, and get universal healthcare (i.e. Medicare For All) passed, once and for all."

How would he do that? Bernie, Liz, and Chris haven't.

sheshe2

(96,230 posts)
104. Do you truly believe that tsf would actually sign it or...
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:43 PM
5 hrs ago

any legislation that Democrats may pass?! Oh, and the Senate is not enough, we need a majority in Congress as well to even get something passed Little Mike's desk.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
103. Call me delusional, but if our side regains the Senate and House, then anything is possible if
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:43 PM
5 hrs ago

. . .a traumatized populace awakened from its slumber demands it. The more elected representatives who are willing to buck the insurance industry lobbyists, the better our chances.

Blasphemer

(3,588 posts)
121. Sorry. This is the kind of unicorn thinking that turned me off of the Sanders movement.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:57 PM
1 hr ago

If we are going to have a serious conversation about this, we cannot live in some fairy and where Platner is going to lead Democrats down the Yellow Brick Road to a place where the Wizard of Oz will wave a wand and fix the impossible.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
99. Sincere question.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:32 PM
5 hrs ago

Perhaps I am too sleepy, so would you please share what makes you smile? I’m genuinely curious.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,625 posts)
107. I am Jewish and have an issue with someone with a NAZI tattoo
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:55 PM
4 hrs ago

I believe that Governor Mills is a far superior candidate to someone with a NAZI tattoo.

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
112. I have deep respect your preference.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:21 PM
4 hrs ago

I’m curious to learn more about Bernie Sanders’ endorsement.

marmar

(79,354 posts)
98. I don't understand the "one white guy" headline. Was that in an article or something?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:29 PM
5 hrs ago

Could we not figure out that he was white? Why did that need to be said?


ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
101. Fair question.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:37 PM
5 hrs ago

I admit to having an inherent bias against most white male leadership, so I was expressing my personal surprise that I would feel such enthusiasm for this guy.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,625 posts)
102. I'll be voting for Janet Mill's in the primary. If your candidate wins, I will vote for him.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:40 PM
5 hrs ago

ariadne0614

(2,134 posts)
115. I'm all in favor of ranked choice voting.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:54 PM
4 hrs ago

Not familiar with the Paul LePage antidote, in case you’d like to elaborate.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,625 posts)
116. Gov. MAGA Paul got elected in Maine when 60+% voted for two other candidates.....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:05 PM
3 hrs ago

he won on simple plurality. We have a better voting solution in place, in Maine now.

betsuni

(28,790 posts)
122. Running against the Democratic Party: Establishment beholden to corporate interests ignore working class, both sides.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 01:30 AM
24 min ago

Where's the evidence of this? Saying something strongly worded into a camera a million times makes it true! Self-righteous name-calling makes it true!

Selling both sides in 2026... What's being sold is the myth that Democrats have the same economic policies of deregulation, privatization, defunding the social safety net and government, no taxes for wealthy and corporations as Republicans. Myth that FDR and New Deal were socialist and the only solution is socialism, convincing customers that classic liberal Democratic policies are socialist but abandoned by Democrats long ago because all they think about is money (as we know from coastal elite Nancy Pelosi's large swanky refrigerator full of expensive ice creams). The whole thing is embarrassing.

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