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PeaceWave

(2,747 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:07 PM 3 hrs ago

With the national debt at $38 trillion and rising, when does Trump decide that default is an option?

DOGE didn't make any appreciable dent on the national debt. Nor did firing approximately 300,000 federal workers. Neither seized Venezuelan oil fields nor stolen Greenlandic rare earth metal deposits will generate significant revenue any time in the near future. Somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of all U.S. national debt is held by foreign entities. For a man with no scruples, no diplomatic skills and no real business sense - one well acquainted with personal and corporate refusal to pay financial obligations - how could defaulting on somewhere between $10 and $13 trillion of foreign held U.S. debt appear as anything other than a magic elixir to cure what ails the rising U.S. national debt? We've said it before...He would never do that. And, then he attempted an insurrection. He would never do that...And then he invaded a foreign country and claimed to be its new ruler. He would never do that. Yes, he would. With this man, anything is possible.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougmelville/2026/01/04/with-the-us-debt-a-staggering-38-trillion-dollars-who-exactly-do-we-owe/

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

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With the national debt at $38 trillion and rising, when does Trump decide that default is an option? (Original Post) PeaceWave 3 hrs ago OP
Maybe the President should have bought and managed a Casino? chouchou 3 hrs ago #1
How long before the international bond markets realize that "the full faith and credit of the U.S." no longer exists Fozzledick 3 hrs ago #2
Now, that would cause a really bad day on the stock market DavidDvorkin 3 hrs ago #3
Back when a million dollars was actually worth close to a million dollars, my uncle told me if you owed the bank ... marble falls 3 hrs ago #4
as soon as he can blame a dem rampartd 3 hrs ago #5

chouchou

(2,861 posts)
1. Maybe the President should have bought and managed a Casino?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:10 PM
3 hrs ago

and then...ah...ah...never mind....

Fozzledick

(3,910 posts)
2. How long before the international bond markets realize that "the full faith and credit of the U.S." no longer exists
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:16 PM
3 hrs ago

and has been replaced with Donald Trump's insanity of the day?

marble falls

(71,248 posts)
4. Back when a million dollars was actually worth close to a million dollars, my uncle told me if you owed the bank ...
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:19 PM
3 hrs ago

... a hundred thousand dollars, the bank owned you. If you owed the bank one million dollars, you owned the bank.

In the 90s when TACO was going to bring down his bank, the Clinton administration guaranteed that the Fed would cover another billion dollars in loans and save the bank and TACO. This was around the time that he tried to sue Merv Griffin about a resort trade they'd made and TACO lost money.

rampartd

(3,958 posts)
5. as soon as he can blame a dem
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:47 PM
3 hrs ago

or as soon as he sees a way to personally profit.

no reasonable person thinks the debt will ever be paid. that is not what it is for.

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