"Trump is quickly becoming irrelevant to the MAGA movement...Peter Thiel's surrogate is warming up in the bullpen"

[Miles Archer]

Chances of Pam Bondi going to jail grows 'exponentially daily': ex-White House reporter

https://www.rawstory.com/good-chance-miller-and-bondi-will-spend-time-behind-bars-the-president-knows-no-loyalty/

An analyst Friday predicted that it's likely White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller and Attorney General Pam Bondi will spend time behind bars.

In an opinion piece for Salon, White House columnist Brian Karem described how the Trump administration has viewed President Donald Trump falling "further into delusion" and what could happen next following his "Mean Don" remarks at the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, and "word-salad monologue" at the White House press briefing room to mark his first year since his second inauguration. The change from Trump in his first administration to Trump 2.0 is noticeably different — and the people backing him could ultimately be the people he turns against.

"That Trump was more cogent and could read a room a lot better than the current version, leading one to wonder if he’s just fronting for the worst instincts of people who work for him who have far darker visions of America than even he does," Karem wrote. "Yes, I’m talking about Stephen Miller. He’s practically the deputy president right now, and every action taken by Immigration and Customs Enforcement is apparently organized, orchestrated and implemented by him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Miller was in charge of the president’s vitamin E injections."

Miller's influence has only grown, as has Vice President JD Vance's sway.

"Trump is quickly becoming irrelevant to the MAGA movement," Karem wrote. "Peter Thiel’s surrogate is warming up in the bullpen, which is a potentially worse scenario than having Trump for the next 1094 days."

[Swede]

1. Without Trump the MAGA movement will collapse. It's a cult, that's what happens to cults.

Oh, the nuts will still be around, but the power will be turned off.

[Mr.Bee]

19. MAGA Dream

Precedent JD adVance and VP Stephen Miller!
NAZI anything wrong there!
NT

[Skittles]

34. yup

there will be more infighting

[LuvLoogie]

43. MAGA is not an anomaly. It has always been here.

It is the core of what drove westward expansion in this hemisphere. A dehumanizing of those who impeded its cravings.

We are here due to centuries of fraud, waste, and abuse. We have lost the knowledge and skill of how to live together equitably. It has been deteriorating for centuries. Living together peacefully means the subjugation and surrender of the people you are stealing from and abusing.

JD Vance is inheriting a sea of shit soul meatheads ready to kill the gays and the minorities, and happy to feel smart about it with JD as their new coach.

Trust me on this. They will NEVER look in the mirror and repent. They fear justice, and will avoid it at all costs.

[travelingthrulife]

2. Is someone working on exposing Thiel's crimes?

[Miles Archer]

3. I am convinced that most members of the general public have no idea who Thiel is

And I'm sure that's the way he likes it.

Musk loaded up on drugs and grabbed his shades and chainsaw and bounced and pranced around the stage like the moron he is.

I believe that Thiel likes working on his "agenda," out of the spotlight.

[travelingthrulife]

14. I agree. That's why his dirt needs to come out now.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

23. With all of MAGA's gay bashing

Would reminding or informing them that Thiel is gay make a difference? Maybe that's why JD uses so much eye shadow?

[Miles Archer]

27. I think their heads are too small to hold that much information

I don't see Thiel becoming a positive OR negative "media figure" in their world.

A big part of it is that he won't seek that kind of attention. Although I could be wrong. I don't see a "President JD Vance" in the cards, but if it happened...God forbid...maybe Thiel would relish a role akin to Stephen Miller, sort of "Dark Lord" of the clown car.

Then again, Russell Vought has that kind of role right now. The media names him by name but I'll bet that if you stop 10 random people on the street and say "Russell Vought" they'll reply "WHO?"

[BidenRocks]

36. Hey now!

We watch South Park!

[mr715]

45. Peter Thiel knows about the antichrist!

[LR3]

4. I believe DOGE was about two things

1) Removing all oversight into the techbros ongoing operations by firing anyone that had the power to do so
2) stealing all the data held by the U.S. government. This was the largest security breech in the history of mankind, and the data was given to Musk and Thiel, and almost certainly Russia as well.

This is where they need to be held accountable and jailed.

[Miles Archer]

7. Here's the part I do not understand, beyond "REPUBLICANS HAVE A MAJORITY."

It has been ACKNOWLEDGED that Musk's boy toys handed off Social Security data to "advocacy groups" looking to subvert our elections.

We have James Comer GIDDY about filing charges against the Clintons for ignoring his Epstein subpoena, while MUSK SHOULD BE SITTING IN FRONT OF CONGRESS TODAY, testifying about his role in DOGE.

[in2herbs]

20. If the Clinton's are held in contempt of court re the Epstein files how will Comer and other Rs respond to having to

comply with the Clinton's demand for discovery and specifically the Epstein files?

I think the Clinton's refusal to comply with the subpoena and Comer et al's pursuit of contempt charges will back fire on the Rs in a big way.

How much effort will Comer put into this contempt proceeding after F45 takes his dirt nap?

[travelingthrulife]

21. Especially since Gym Jordan blew off his subpoena. I hope they highlight the hell out of that.

[quakerboy]

38. Why would we do that

It seems like the main "plan" of our leaders is to let Trump be trump, hopefully nature takes its course quickly, then hope that maga splinters without him, and quietly move on after the elections, letting bygones be bygones.

I hope im wrong, but that seems like the best fit to what I see people positioning towards themselves.

[markodochartaigh]

5. "..he's just fronting for the worst instincts of people who work for him who have far darker visions of America than ev

I would have thought that anyone who saw the evilgelical faith leaders surrounding Trump, anyone who saw Trump lead the Republican party into passing the largest tax cut for the 1% ever, anyone who saw Trump's unabashed admiration for Mohammed bone Sawman, Kim Jong Un, Orbán, Bolsanada, etc., anyone who saw Trump being supported by Sillycon Valley authoritarian techbros, would have found it intuitively obvious that Trump was a tool, an incredibly flawed tool, for people who are emblematic of the most depraved sort of humans to exist.
I was incorrect, it is not "intuitively obvious to the most casual observer."

[flvegan]

6. Neither Bondi nor Miller are going to do any time behind bars.

Regardless of what happens, whatever power shift or majority the dems can/will take in 2026 or 2028, the party doesn't have the mind nor the stomach for punishment of these traitors. I know we'd all love to see our form of Nuremberg trials for them, Trump, ICE, etc, but it just isn't going to happen. We'll likely get would/could/should but won't/can't/shouldn't from our leadership* if and when the opportunity arises.

And it's a fucking shame at that.

*I promise to be first in line to eat my words if and when I'm proven wrong. I'll even start donating to those that do.

[Miles Archer]

10. Yeah...it's a pleasant fantasy, and I'm sure it will be nothing more than that.

They'll both land somewhere on top of a huge pile of cash.

It's the Paul Ryan syndrome. He claimed that he "daydreamed" about his Ayn Rand Tax Cuts for Millionaires" over "keggers in college."

What he really wanted to do, above and beyond that, was thoroughly gut the Social Safety Net...SS, Medicaid, Medicare...even though his hero, Ayn Rand, died sick and broke and dependent on those programs.

But he got his tax cuts, and realized anything else would require him to stick around and work with Trump, so he took his golden parachute out to his fat government pension, the best healthcare our country has to offer for the rest of his life, and a paid gig on the "Fox News Board."

I'm sure a similar fate awaits Bondi, Patel, Miller, Hegseth and the rest.

[flvegan]

11. Agreed. And Bondi is only like 14 Mar a Lago Face surgeries away from a recurring Fox stint.

That's like, 2 weeks of work in normal human time.

[sop]

16. Sadly, I agree.

There's going to be a lot of "We have to look forward, not backward" when Democrats take control.

[rubbersole]

26. tsf will/already has pardoned all these treasonous enablers.

Probably one of the first things he did after his inauguration. "You get a pocket pardon and you get a pocket pardon..."

[liberalgunwilltravel]

25. Himmler and Goering

Spent little time behind bars. But they met their just ends. Unless Miller, Bondi, and all the rest flee to Argentina, when this nightmare is over, none of them will spend another day in peace.

[mr715]

46. Goering and Himmler died covered in their own shit.

They also went out in a particularly cowardly fashion.

[hedda_foil]

8. Here is the original Salon opinion piece that this discusses.

https://www.salon.com/2026/01/23/donald-trump-lurches-further-into-delusion-on-the-world-stage/

[littlemissmartypants]

17. Thanks. I hate RS. 🤓❤️

[mr715]

47. Thanks!

[Hugin]

9. "... the people backing him could ultimately be the people he turns against."

This has always been in the mix. Perhaps in the second imposition, instead of thinking they could control him, they believe they can cut him off before he can cut them off.

This would explain the lack of turnover in this go around compared to last. Although, an alternative explanation is that when a barrel is empty, it is empty.

I guess willing or not, we shall see.

[Nasruddin]

24. Civil War inside the WH

That would be interesting, sure.

A good chance we'll all be getting mandatory Mandarin lessons, tho, as a result.

Anyway, I don't think Bondi or Vance can hold the room. Miller - now that's worth a laugh. Maybe Johnson as the Forrest Gump/"Being There" guy.
Perhaps the warriors will settle on Rubio.

[2naSalit]

12. No wondering here...

I have no doubt.

[Wednesdays]

13. "Chances of Pam Bondi going to jail grows 'exponentially daily'"

That's a nice dream, Brian.

Now, you and what army are going to go in and enforce it?

[progressoid]

15. No shit.

That's definitely a pipe dream. I doubt anyone is going to pay for their crimes. But I guess I'm getting jaded.

[Escape]

18. No way on earth that Trump and his cronies...

allow a fair election in November. The election will either be wildly corrupt, or, more likely, it won't happen at all.

If Fuckface declares Martial Law in late October, we know now that 99% of the Republicans in the House and Senate will feverishly support that and that the American press will report it as business as usual.

[EX500rider]

39. How do the Feds stop the States from holding elections?

Just declaring "Martial law!!" won't stop them.

[Escape]

40. Same way the Trump Gang....

ignored the Epstein deadline.

Same way they arrest, injure and sometimes kill innocent people in Blue states across the country..

Same way they raid a foreign country and arrest the president and his wife.

Same way they steal the oil from that country.

Same way they rename buildings, organizations and geographical sites.

Same way their DOJ attempts to prosecute their political enemies.

Same way they profit from insider information and market manipulation.

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Trump will tell the states the elections are cancelled. The Red states will cheer. The Blue states will sue. The first Tuesday in November will be just like every other day since Trump took office: chaos, lies, accusations, violence and a frightened ineffective media.

I wish I was wrong.

[EX500rider]

44. He can tell them all he wants, the blue & red states will hold their elections

The red states don't dare not hold theirs if the blue states do & will, otherwise they will have no representative's in either house.

Also no court will uphold country wide marshal law if their are a few "riots" in a city or 2.

[flashman13]

22. Thiel may own Vance, but Vance doesn't own MAGA.

[rubbersole]

29. tsf knew this when JD was allowed on the ticket.

Impeachment/25th amendment insurance.

[marble falls]

28. So who is Peter Thiel's back-up TACO? I don't think there is a back up candidate. I hope it's Butthead Jr. ...

... or JD Sofastuffer.

[rubbersole]

31. There isn't a viable replacement.

I always thought Brian Kemp would be the next in line. I wonder if the real money behind the repub party would risk another shallow suit after this fiasco. But it's making them insanely wealthier in the short term and that was/is the goal.

[gfarber]

30. Vance Warms Up

An analyst wrote on a Friday quite dour,
That power may sour by judicial hour;
If karma keeps score,
Some aides may want more
Than press passes to pass the time—behind bars.

At Davos, “Mean Don” took the stage,
With a rant that looked lost on the page;
A word salad flew,
With no dressing in view—
Even verbs tried to flee from the cage.

Once Trump read the room with some skill,
Now the room seems to read him—at will;
Trump 2.0’s flair
Feels oddly threadbare,
Like a reboot no focus could fill.

Behind him stands Miller, they say,
Deputy president—night and day;
From borders to raids,
He’s the hand that pervades,
Even timing the vitamins, hey!

ICE moves with a script and a cue,
Every step pre-arranged and reviewed;
If shadows ran shows,
He’d be boss of the prose—
With a pen and a plan to construe.

Meanwhile Vance gains sway in the wings,
While Trump fades from MAGA-think tanks and things;
With a Thiel-backed heir
Warming up over there,
The bullpen looks primed for worse flings.

So the columnist wonders aloud,
If the king’s just a face in the crowd;
When the movement outgrows
The man it once chose,
It’s the courtiers who may feel most cowed.

[Callie1979]

32. Jail is a fantasy. For Miller, a pine box is needed. And Vance knows HE doesnt have "it"

Thats why I think at some point after the midterms he'll try to take over so he can run as an incumbent.

[Bluetus]

33. This article is ridiculous. The odds that Bondi will be in jail

practically zero. Nothing will happen before 2029. And we've already seen what Democrats think about the rule of law. With a person like Merrick Garland installed as AG, the statute of limitations would easily run out here before that AG ever even got new furniture in the office.

If you want to see any accountability in government, you have to get rid of the upper echelon of our party. They have already shown us what they are not willing to ever do.

[Uncle Joe]

35. I think this is why Vance brought up the Titanic

Thanks for the thread Miles Archer

[BannonsLiver]

37. Vance will be done in by Trump's growing unpopularity.

There is no escaping that for him. Trump will pardon Miller. There’s basically no chance he will ever do jail time for a federal crime. Not sure about the author’s thought process here.

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. There's no evidence offered that Trump is irrelevant to MAGA - the writer is just bullshitting

presumably because he had to turn in some words.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/americans-criticize-trumps-first-year-with-sharp-divides-among-republicans-survey/

60% of self-identified "MAGA" strongly approve of Trump's "performance" over the last year. Another 33% approve. The cult is still faithful. And it takes a huge event to turn a significant amount of a cult against the leader they worship.

Vance could only topple Trump if he could both persuade 2/3rds of the cabinet they'd be personally safer or richer with Vance as President (how?), AND a third of Republicans in both Houses that they'd be more likely to get re-elected if they turned on Trump. But that 93% of MAGA is a dangerous constituency to piss off (both electorally, and in terms of assassination).

[JI7]

42. Not this shit again

Vance doesn't have the support that Trump has.

Stop with this shit about how someone everyone hates will be worse than Trump.

The problem with Trump is that he has support among many people.