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What will be the price for deferment when Trump starts rounding up Americans to fight his wars? (Original Post) dalton99a 18 hrs ago OP
Good Question . Bread and Circuses 18 hrs ago #1
My grandson will be 25 next month. I may have to kidnap him. Deuxcents 17 hrs ago #2
During Vietnam a lot of them went to Canada... ananda 17 hrs ago #3
No one is going Greg_In_SF 17 hrs ago #4
I hope not. I have the deepest respect for our men n women in our services..my mom n dad served in WWII Deuxcents 13 hrs ago #5
Sen. Graham doing yeoman's work on this one: Kingofalldems 2 hrs ago #7
First, KRASNOV is grift above all, always with a new grift. Second, the Draft is Vietnam poison. UTUSN 11 hrs ago #6

ananda

(34,939 posts)
3. During Vietnam a lot of them went to Canada...
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:16 PM
17 hrs ago

and stayed there until Carter's amnesty.

My sister's ex-husband was one of them.

He also could have bought his way out if
that was an option, but those days were
different than today's.

Greg_In_SF

(1,223 posts)
4. No one is going
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:56 PM
17 hrs ago

to be “rounded up” LOL.

We fought in Afghanistan for 20 years and no one was rounded up.

We’re in to this one ten days

Deuxcents

(26,504 posts)
5. I hope not. I have the deepest respect for our men n women in our services..my mom n dad served in WWII
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 09:31 PM
13 hrs ago

Having said that, this administration does not respect our military, our fallen heroes or even the rules of engagement. To attack like we’ve been doing is unlawful and unconstitutional and I dare say, immoral. TSF and his family are profiting from this and it’s no secret. All of us..mothers, fathers, families, friends should be outraged at this administration and their actions and attitudes towards war, conflicts or even killing fishermen in the Caribbean and Pacific.

Kingofalldems

(40,189 posts)
7. Sen. Graham doing yeoman's work on this one:
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:59 AM
2 hrs ago

I like the Draft MAGA First movement, how about you?




UTUSN

(77,561 posts)
6. First, KRASNOV is grift above all, always with a new grift. Second, the Draft is Vietnam poison.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:00 AM
11 hrs ago

The biggest lesson from Vietnam for the warmongering class was: Never Draft, because the Draft stymied the whole enchilada.

* NOT casting asparagus on the protest movement of Vietnam, but it wasn't all about Peace and Anti-war. The Draft was a significant factor of resistence. And the resistence took various forms for the draftees - such as, all us Civilians not buying into military say-so. It meant that draftees didn't magically turn into good little militarists. Yip, in the latter years, things like fragging happened - not only resenting military orders but knocking off the authority figures - "By the end of the war, at least 450 officers were killed in fraggings; the U.S. military reported at least 600 U.S. soldiers killed in fragging incidents with another 1,400 dying under mysterious circumstances.[11][12]" - because the Civilian draftees didn't have their hearts into the whole demolishing of individuality and just blind following orders thing.

* So, for the CHEENEE-RUMSFELDs, lesson learned, they went for "all volunteer" model - that was their main lesson learned from Vietnam. Meaning multiple tours for the enlisted members, 3 or 4 or more years instead of the one year tours in Vietnam.

************ So will Deferments be for sale - uh, we're talking KRASNOV here! He sells (tries) everything - visas, citizen, pardons whatever. Actually, nothing new, richies paying Poors to take their place dates at least to the Civil War.




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