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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat will be the price for deferment when Trump starts rounding up Americans to fight his wars?
$100,000? $1M?
Bread and Circuses
(1,917 posts)Deuxcents
(26,504 posts)ananda
(34,939 posts)and stayed there until Carter's amnesty.
My sister's ex-husband was one of them.
He also could have bought his way out if
that was an option, but those days were
different than today's.
Greg_In_SF
(1,223 posts)to be rounded up LOL.
We fought in Afghanistan for 20 years and no one was rounded up.
Were in to this one ten days
Deuxcents
(26,504 posts)Having said that, this administration does not respect our military, our fallen heroes or even the rules of engagement. To attack like weve been doing is unlawful and unconstitutional and I dare say, immoral. TSF and his family are profiting from this and its no secret. All of us..mothers, fathers, families, friends should be outraged at this administration and their actions and attitudes towards war, conflicts or even killing fishermen in the Caribbean and Pacific.
Kingofalldems
(40,189 posts)UTUSN
(77,561 posts)The biggest lesson from Vietnam for the warmongering class was: Never Draft, because the Draft stymied the whole enchilada.
* NOT casting asparagus on the protest movement of Vietnam, but it wasn't all about Peace and Anti-war. The Draft was a significant factor of resistence. And the resistence took various forms for the draftees - such as, all us Civilians not buying into military say-so. It meant that draftees didn't magically turn into good little militarists. Yip, in the latter years, things like fragging happened - not only resenting military orders but knocking off the authority figures - "By the end of the war, at least 450 officers were killed in fraggings; the U.S. military reported at least 600 U.S. soldiers killed in fragging incidents with another 1,400 dying under mysterious circumstances.[11][12]" - because the Civilian draftees didn't have their hearts into the whole demolishing of individuality and just blind following orders thing.
* So, for the CHEENEE-RUMSFELDs, lesson learned, they went for "all volunteer" model - that was their main lesson learned from Vietnam. Meaning multiple tours for the enlisted members, 3 or 4 or more years instead of the one year tours in Vietnam.
************ So will Deferments be for sale - uh, we're talking KRASNOV here! He sells (tries) everything - visas, citizen, pardons whatever. Actually, nothing new, richies paying Poors to take their place dates at least to the Civil War.