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muriel_volestrangler

(106,622 posts)
Sun May 24, 2026, 11:48 AM 4 hrs ago

Republican Lawmakers Suggest Cutting Off Funding for National Academies

The White House signaled interest early this month in investigating whether the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine should be suspended or debarred from federal funding, in response to a letter from 11 Republican lawmakers criticizing NASEM, particularly the climate science chapter of its Reference Manual on Scientific Evidence.

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows posted an article about the letter on X, adding, “The National Academies have weaponized tax dollars against President Trump for far too long. It’s time to end their contracts.” Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought responded, “On it.”

The letter argues that the climate science chapter of the reference manual “violates Gold Standard Science” because the peer review process did not include scientists with differing views on climate science and because its authors and funders had conflicts of interest. It heavily echoes letters sent in January and March by 27 Republican state attorneys general who successfully campaigned to remove the chapter from an online version of the manual.
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The chapter remains available on the Academies’ website, with National Academy of Sciences President Marcia McNutt rebuffing the request for its removal. The attorneys general then turned to the administration, suggesting that agencies consider suspending or debarring NASEM from federal funding, and that congressional committees investigate NASEM as part of their oversight or appropriations processes.

https://www.aip.org/fyi/republican-lawmakers-suggest-cutting-off-funding-for-national-academies

So while the climate wreckers already succeeded in getting the science removed from the manual for judges, that wasn't enough for them; they now want to wreck science, engineering and medicine in general, because the scientists insist on hosting real climate science.

This is American Lysenkoism. See
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/remembering-lysenko-when-ideology-and-science-meet/780C8565F8EDD870699611B70B922F9A
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2003/sep/11/research.highereducation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
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Republican Lawmakers Suggest Cutting Off Funding for National Academies (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago OP
That sciency shit is pretty scary. Turbineguy 4 hrs ago #1
Of course it scares them. It requires thinking. wnylib 3 hrs ago #9
So we want to defund scientists odins folly 3 hrs ago #2
Anyone can provide a paper or research to get peer review. haele 2 hrs ago #12
Exactly!!! odins folly 1 hr ago #23
Trump 1.0 tried to slash most federal research agencies, but Democrats in Congress resisted dalton99a 3 hrs ago #3
IT and his minions won't be happy until we are back in the Dark Ages. LoisB 3 hrs ago #4
Easier to control the population that way. wnylib 3 hrs ago #10
Absolutely. LoisB 2 hrs ago #15
That's their solution to everything - cut, defund, deny funding. Initech 3 hrs ago #5
And the war against truth, science, facts and Hey Joe 3 hrs ago #6
When Don Quixote created his own reality, wnylib 3 hrs ago #11
Since people insist on calling climate change "man"-made... ananda 3 hrs ago #7
Book Lernin' WiVoter 3 hrs ago #8
Yeah! Them Damned College Boys Think They Know So Much! MineralMan 2 hrs ago #13
No facts allowed, only propaganda. 58Sunliner 2 hrs ago #14
I.M.P.E.A.C.H. Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #16
"The National Academies have weaponized tax dollars against President Trump for far too long"... GiqueCee 2 hrs ago #17
And yet, they authorize billions for war, slush funds, ballrooms... tinrobot 2 hrs ago #18
Geez Figarosmom 2 hrs ago #19
Anything that interferes with turning a quick profit must be abolished! WestMichRad 2 hrs ago #20
I have a better idea: AverageOldGuy 2 hrs ago #21
Is the U.S. Gone Yet? Starbeach 1 hr ago #22
Cigarette warning labels next on the list??? NoMoreRepugs 1 hr ago #24

odins folly

(643 posts)
2. So we want to defund scientists
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:10 PM
3 hrs ago

Because deniers didn’t have a chance to peer review. They obviously don’t understand peer review. The idea being prove me wrong, but they have no actual scientific evidence that climate change is not man affected.. so their review would amount to “no it doesn’t “

Sorry, that doesn’t fly in science….

Assholes.

haele

(15,615 posts)
12. Anyone can provide a paper or research to get peer review.
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:13 PM
2 hrs ago

Their paper or research just has to meet evidentiary and procedural standards to be taken seriously and go through a full review.
There is very little gatekeeping; but if someone obnoxiously conspiratorial does find evidence of something real, there are less fringy real scientists who might be willing to look at that evidence and bring it forward for review
For instance, I've seen a lot of possibly contradictory theories on the process of future AMOC deterioration - or if it can be recovered based on current climate studies. Neither right nor wrong in themselves, the theories are based on evidence and context - which means there's still no "90 minutes until the movie ends" for the hero(s) to make the final, definitive answers or decisions that will fix the problem and save the world.
There is no one answer or outcome in science, no matter how hard people try to say "there, we fixed it, let's put it away and go on with our lives".
Science Evolves. Technology Evolves. Thinking and Ideas Evolve. People Evolve. Situations Evolve.

Nothing ever just stops and goes away.

odins folly

(643 posts)
23. Exactly!!!
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:37 PM
1 hr ago

With one slight modification to your last point:

Science Evolves. Technology Evolves. Thinking and Ideas Evolve. People Evolve. Situations Evolve. conservative ideology does not evolve…….

Initech

(109,304 posts)
5. That's their solution to everything - cut, defund, deny funding.
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:29 PM
3 hrs ago

I wish we could deny them power. They don't deserve it.

Hey Joe

(823 posts)
6. And the war against truth, science, facts and
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:41 PM
3 hrs ago

objective reality continues apace.
They continue to demand that their lies be taken as gospel, even as the destructive results of said lies flourish with the most obvious and numerous assaults on humanity.

wnylib

(26,492 posts)
11. When Don Quixote created his own reality,
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:00 PM
3 hrs ago

it was funny because it was fiction.

These fools do the same thing, but not funny when it is really life and not fiction.

Maybe instead of calling them MAGAS, calling them Quixotes would be more appropriate.

ananda

(35,526 posts)
7. Since people insist on calling climate change "man"-made...
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:45 PM
3 hrs ago

I loudly proclaim and it's all a product of men only.

GiqueCee

(4,788 posts)
17. "The National Academies have weaponized tax dollars against President Trump for far too long"...
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:39 PM
2 hrs ago

... Yo, Meadows, you lying asshole! TRUTH is the only thing that is against Trump, and if you had a nanoparticle of decency in your worthless body, you would know that TRUTH is like Kryptonite to Trump, and to every other Republican that Satan ever shat out.
Got your go-bag packed yet? You're gonna need it! That, and a visa to Siberia; no one'll ever find you there!

Figarosmom

(13,537 posts)
19. Geez
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:49 PM
2 hrs ago

Stone age here we come. Such destruction. We will have to make sure these things can't be done again somehow when Dems get back in control if we ever do.

WestMichRad

(3,410 posts)
20. Anything that interferes with turning a quick profit must be abolished!
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:56 PM
2 hrs ago

Christ on a cracker, what a bunch of self-serving idiots.

AverageOldGuy

(4,194 posts)
21. I have a better idea:
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:04 PM
2 hrs ago

Defund ALL SCHOOLS -- publilc, private, whatever -- pre-school, elementary, middle, high, trade, college, university, community college -- close 'em all. Churches will teach kids all they need to know about life and they can learn readin', writin', and 'rithmetic at their mother's knee. And they can go to work on the assembly lines at 7 years old. You know, back in the good ol' days.

Goddam but these people are morons.

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