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PCIntern

(28,875 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:24 AM Jun 20

I am really sick and tired of the MSM

Speaking about this guy like he’s a rational, grounded, knowledgeable individual who has any concept of reality, cause and effect, protocol, or a relationship with facts.

On every, and I mean EVERY network, station, and broadcast, the moderator will make a statement such as the following, “President Trump will be meeting today with so-and-so to discuss the policy and ramifications of such-and-such. In the past he has demonstrated that he has a hard-line approach toward the blah blah and we will have to wait and see what he decides to implement following the meeting, given the complexities and the personalities of the various (heads of state/governors/senators/CEO’s, etc.) involved in the process.”

This is a guy who can’t complete a single sentence without wandering into a senile self-aggrandizement, who has no grasp of history, technology, science, or even human emotions, who regularly sharts himself voluminously, and who has little or no connection with reality, to say nothing of the body politic. The notion that he could have a rational discussion with anyone about anything other than ordering Diet Coke is absurd. It’s like explaining alternate side of the street parking regulations to a cockroach.

I have spoken!

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I am really sick and tired of the MSM (Original Post) PCIntern Jun 20 OP
The MSM kissing Trump's fat ass is all about access and fear agingdem Jun 20 #1
K&R spanone Jun 20 #2
And when you are right, you are right... displacedvermoter Jun 20 #3
The cockroach would probably understand what you are talking about. mwmisses4289 Jun 20 #4
Agreed SuzyandPuffpuff Jun 20 #5
Not MSM but CCM SocialDemocrat61 Jun 20 #6
"In today's news, he said this: _____. Also, he said this: _____ and that ____" Ponietz Jun 20 #7
The MSM is beholden to the OOO. Our Obscured Oligopoly. Festivito Jun 20 #8
I agree with every word in your post, PCIntern. Diamond_Dog Jun 20 #9
Corporate McPravda ensures them with the Gold Rule Kid Berwyn Jun 20 #10
Boo! Do not like! LymphocyteLover Jun 20 #53
thank ja for the interwebs. mopinko Jun 20 #11
The MSM understands if they report the truth, they will lose their access dlk Jun 20 #12
If the president were a doughnut, they'd have to cover it as well. harumph Jun 20 #13
They're doing a version of "more of the same" but it's complete BS. paleotn Jun 20 #18
I'm wondering how many people in this forum are asking ... aggiesal Jun 20 #33
Less than you might think. I think DU trends on the older side. harumph Jun 20 #48
What? No Electric Company? n/t aggiesal Jun 20 #52
Those were my jams! OG Spiderman! nt. druidity33 Jun 20 #59
I'm old enough to remember them on Saturday afternoons. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 21 #65
100%!!! I was mad at the MSM in the run-up to the Iraq war and boycotted them for a long time, but that was LymphocyteLover Jun 20 #14
The MSM (like Judith Miller of the NYT) was a stenographer for the lies Martin Eden Jun 20 #16
Trust Timewas Jun 20 #15
Even NPR. Drives me batshit. paleotn Jun 20 #17
This has been going on for a long time PCIntern Jun 20 #19
Well, the local NYC Public Radio host 10A - Noon does not (? the phrase) pull punches. So there's that. electric_blue68 Jun 21 #61
Dementia bmichaelh Jun 20 #20
Took the words right out of my mouth. nt Susan Calvin Jun 20 #21
My thoughts exactly mountain grammy Jun 20 #22
I really think that mainstream media should pay a heavy price oldmanlynn Jun 20 #23
I don't watch it. Everyone from NPR to the NYT LuvLoogie Jun 20 #24
The news announcers are just reading the White House press releases FakeNoose Jun 20 #25
It's just ludicrous, isn't it? hamsterjill Jun 20 #26
This is not what was invisioned by the framers of the constitution. Prairie_Seagull Jun 20 #27
Right on The Blue Flower Jun 20 #28
Add Ali Velshi to the mix. BarbD Jun 20 #57
Mindless litany BeneteauBum Jun 20 #29
I got sick of them years ago. The Bush Iraq war did it for me. CaptainTruth Jun 20 #30
That is absolutely the case with the Iraq War... PCIntern Jun 20 #35
Agreed! debsy Jun 20 #31
Yes. Kablooie Jun 20 #32
MSM is owned by billionaires duckworth969 Jun 20 #34
"" AllaN01Bear Jun 20 #36
Right, PCIntern Jun 20 #38
All white men demanding supremacy are treated this way BaronChocula Jun 20 #37
Pedo is an American stupid gangster who never paid for his stupidity. Justice matters. Jun 20 #39
being a rich straight white male repuke has certainly helped Skittles Jun 20 #42
Yet the yammering traitors constantly questioned President Biden's acuity Mysterian Jun 20 #40
THANK YOU Skittles Jun 20 #41
Including PBS tymfinity46 Jun 20 #43
Great simile Just Jerome Jun 20 #44
Thank u PCIntern Jun 20 #47
Yup. Fuck 'em! Joinfortmill Jun 20 #45
Yeah. That's an ignorant buffoon they are talking about. Simply saying so would GoodRaisin Jun 20 #46
Well spoken Evolve Dammit Jun 20 #49
Hey, that's what I was going to post. Kudos, PC. Vinca Jun 20 #50
The sane washing is intense bob4460 Jun 20 #51
Hear, hear! Mr. Mustard 2023 Jun 20 #54
They've propped that fat fuck pedophile up long enough Blue Owl Jun 20 #55
I can imagine how sick to Cha Jun 20 #56
OK, a bit off-subject, GAJMac Jun 20 #58
Bingo!!! PCIntern Jun 21 #63
A primary task of the corporate media is to encourage you to watch and believe the ads struggle4progress Jun 20 #60
Where is Edward R Murrow? bmichaelh Jun 21 #62
Instant editing has become very advanced DFW Jun 21 #64
But wait a minute! Janbdwl72 Jun 21 #66

agingdem

(9,074 posts)
1. The MSM kissing Trump's fat ass is all about access and fear
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:31 AM
Jun 20

of network retribution if they don’t say nice things about him…

SuzyandPuffpuff

(823 posts)
5. Agreed
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:46 AM
Jun 20

It's all such fluff...these people are robotrons. Pure and simple. Someday they're all gonna pay. I Just hope I'm here to witness the end of some of these hypocrites.

Festivito

(13,967 posts)
8. The MSM is beholden to the OOO. Our Obscured Oligopoly.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:02 AM
Jun 20

And he's doing a decent job of supporting the OOO. And the MSMs are doing a good job of supporting them too.

Diamond_Dog

(41,622 posts)
9. I agree with every word in your post, PCIntern.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:03 AM
Jun 20

And I have thought it even when he had his first term. He has been nothing but a willfully ignorant, criminal, incurious and self-serving, racist, delusional, pretender, in way over his head. It’s just gotten so bad now, his incompetence is amplified exponentially. I, too, get so angry when seeing headlines or chyrons like you describe. Who is really running things in this government? Vance and Rubio seem like they’re nothing more than his cowed foot soldiers.

Kid Berwyn

(25,684 posts)
10. Corporate McPravda ensures them with the Gold Rule
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:04 AM
Jun 20


Programming We the People to accept the “inevitability” of the rich getting richer through fiscal policy cough trickle down, wars without end, and no need for democracy.

mopinko

(74,324 posts)
11. thank ja for the interwebs.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:05 AM
Jun 20

the truth is out there. places like du, and so many brilliant truth tellers on substack, etc.

dlk

(13,517 posts)
12. The MSM understands if they report the truth, they will lose their access
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:09 AM
Jun 20

As corporations,, their primary duty is to their shareholders and their profits. This is who they serve. Any duty to our country is conditioned on this fact and comes later, if at all.

harumph

(3,629 posts)
13. If the president were a doughnut, they'd have to cover it as well.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:13 AM
Jun 20

If they just ignored him, there would be too much empty air space to fill up. Let's imagine an honest broadcast:
"The unsteady and seemingly confused president, being propped up by his handlers was transported to a meeting where under normal circumstances, some kind of negotiation is supposed to take place. Who is actually capable of and authorized by the administration to negotiate remains unknown. More of the same for tomorrow and the next day and then the next. Be sure to check in tomorrow where we will very likely be reporting more of the same. In the meantime, we take you to Kukla, Fran and Ollie."

aggiesal

(11,046 posts)
33. I'm wondering how many people in this forum are asking ...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:42 AM
Jun 20

Who's Kukla, Fran & Ollie?
🤣😂🤣

harumph

(3,629 posts)
48. Less than you might think. I think DU trends on the older side.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 04:29 PM
Jun 20

My older cousins liked KFO which had already stopped production when I was of an age to appreciate it. I was more of a Captain Kangaroo fan. I thought the ping-pong ball showers were hilarious. I was a bit too old for ZOOM in its heyday.

LymphocyteLover

(10,497 posts)
14. 100%!!! I was mad at the MSM in the run-up to the Iraq war and boycotted them for a long time, but that was
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:15 AM
Jun 20

NOTHING like their complete failure to maintain the truth and hold this HORRENDOUS POTUS to account -- and just overall their complete abdication of duty.

Martin Eden

(16,149 posts)
16. The MSM (like Judith Miller of the NYT) was a stenographer for the lies
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:32 AM
Jun 20

I joined DU in 2002 during that campaign of deceit. This is where I learned about PNAC and so much truth the MSM was not covering.

Timewas

(2,829 posts)
15. Trust
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:24 AM
Jun 20

I have completely and utterly lost any and all trust in our so called "news" outlets, they are totally out of touch with anything that resembles reality.

paleotn

(23,238 posts)
17. Even NPR. Drives me batshit.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:36 AM
Jun 20

Like they haven't had their federal funding cut to zero, thus have no reason whatsoever NOT to report the damn truth. But no. They hide behind some guise of "objectivity" when reality is staring them right in the damn face. They're a cultural class of naval gazers and circle jerkers.

PCIntern

(28,875 posts)
19. This has been going on for a long time
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:43 AM
Jun 20

I can’t do my Cokie Roberts imitation here, but her Monday morning horseshit report in Bob Edwards’ program used to make me nuts.

electric_blue68

(28,116 posts)
61. Well, the local NYC Public Radio host 10A - Noon does not (? the phrase) pull punches. So there's that.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 01:08 AM
Jun 21

bmichaelh

(1,336 posts)
20. Dementia
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:57 AM
Jun 20

Last edited Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Do not think whatever state Trump is in, he is coming back from.

Publicly, he used profanities and obscenities at G7.

Some are saying he has frontotemporal dementia in addition to his malignant narcissism.

oldmanlynn

(888 posts)
23. I really think that mainstream media should pay a heavy price
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:25 AM
Jun 20

For any of those that look the other way and capitulated to this fascist regime

LuvLoogie

(9,089 posts)
24. I don't watch it. Everyone from NPR to the NYT
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:43 AM
Jun 20

does what you describe. The ONANs and the FOXes openly blow sunshine up his ass.

FakeNoose

(43,338 posts)
25. The news announcers are just reading the White House press releases
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:44 AM
Jun 20

Whatever is fed to them by Chump's press staffers, that's what they read on the air and call it "news." It's the laziest and stupidest thing I've ever seen. They don't deserve to call themselves reporters because they aren't "reporting" shit. And as you say, they're doing their best to make it sound normal, and we ALL know this isn't normal!


hamsterjill

(18,067 posts)
26. It's just ludicrous, isn't it?
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:54 AM
Jun 20

They are all trying to tell us that we don't see what we see.

They are trying to tell us that we don't hear what we hear.

They are trying to tell us that we don't know what we know.

But we do!!!! Some things are obvious. Like when you're watching an older person decline. It's natural. It's expected. It's not something that can be hidden.

Trump is NOT a young man. He is EIGHTY FUCKING YEARS OLD. The media tore into Joe Biden, and yet hey give Donnie a pass on everything, it seems.

Who is making them do that? The media is no longer credible. I don't even watch any of it any more. I watch the few who were cast aside and who I feel might be a little truthful. Like Jim Acosta and Don Lemon, and a few others.

The rest are just ass kissers as far as I'm concerned.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,927 posts)
27. This is not what was invisioned by the framers of the constitution.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:55 AM
Jun 20

The power of the media is a check on political power.

Now here we are.

The Blue Flower

(6,689 posts)
28. Right on
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:56 AM
Jun 20

I had it with them when they piled on President Biden. His age and experience are what made him so successful in bringing the country back after Covid. His compassion and empathy were what connected him to Americans of all stripes. There was never any comparison between him and the criminal psychopath in the WH now. And that thing is old now, too, and much worse in all aspects than its predecessor. The agenda is clear for us all to see: currying favor for money and power. The only people I watch on tv now are Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, and Nicole Wallace. I never watch network tv. I'm 76 and enjoy the reruns of old shows. Otherwise, I read.

BarbD

(1,547 posts)
57. Add Ali Velshi to the mix.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:37 PM
Jun 20

Also watch Malcolm Nance's podcast -- Black Man Spy at 9 a.m. on substack. Frankly it's all I can handle. Then I calm myself with books. At 88, I'm down to cozy mysteries and romance novels because they have happy endings.

However I loved MSNow showing the opening of the Obama Presidential Library. I worked on his campaign. Still recall the motto of hope, "Yes We Can."

BeneteauBum

(1,018 posts)
29. Mindless litany
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:56 AM
Jun 20

Script given to commentators for regurgitation back to mindless, unquestioning masses.

Peace ☮️

CaptainTruth

(8,340 posts)
30. I got sick of them years ago. The Bush Iraq war did it for me.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:57 AM
Jun 20

So much obvious info about what was really going on (PNAC etc) & the MSM didn't report any of it.

PCIntern

(28,875 posts)
35. That is absolutely the case with the Iraq War...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:28 PM
Jun 20

I recall a friend of mine years later said, “Who thought they were lying? Nobody.” I replied, “Everybody with a brain could see it was the case.”

He got that hangdog look… he knew I was right and had been in denial

debsy

(1,113 posts)
31. Agreed!
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:18 AM
Jun 20

Nobody will hold him to account in the MSM. Supporting organizations like [link:democracynow.org|] is critical in these times.

Kablooie

(19,147 posts)
32. Yes.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:39 AM
Jun 20

They are constantly legitimizing his insanity and pretending he is a competent leader.

duckworth969

(1,480 posts)
34. MSM is owned by billionaires
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:26 PM
Jun 20

And their Board of Directors consists of millionaires.

There’s no reason to put any stock in what they say.

They’re greedy, soul-sucking naked apes.

AllaN01Bear

(30,292 posts)
36. ""
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:20 PM
Jun 20

i dumped the local newspaper and quit watching tv news and listening to our local 50.000 watt am and fm trash talkers years ago. i get sane news from a news newsletter .

PCIntern

(28,875 posts)
38. Right,
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:24 PM
Jun 20

but maybe 300,000,000 Americans don’t. And of those, a fair percentage are swayed significantly by the news coverage by the MSM. They’re my concern, not you.

BaronChocula

(5,066 posts)
37. All white men demanding supremacy are treated this way
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:24 PM
Jun 20

by traditional American institutions such as the msm. They get all the passes, all the credit, and the least blame. It's been this way for hundreds of years.

Justice matters.

(10,277 posts)
39. Pedo is an American stupid gangster who never paid for his stupidity.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:06 PM
Jun 20

Since the first day he opened his eyes.

Yes, a gangster who always got away with his malfeasance scot-free.

Did he have to pay and pay (and never pay) damn money in the process.

Yes. Hence his obsession about money and gold and fluffy bs.

A gangster.

Mysterian

(6,795 posts)
40. Yet the yammering traitors constantly questioned President Biden's acuity
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:08 PM
Jun 20

The billionaire=owned MSM is the enemy of democracy.

https://www.freepress.net/who-owns-media

Skittles

(173,933 posts)
41. THANK YOU
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:10 PM
Jun 20

imagine what they would be saying if this was a POC, woman, aw heck, ANY FREAKING DEMOCRAT

GoodRaisin

(11,222 posts)
46. Yeah. That's an ignorant buffoon they are talking about. Simply saying so would
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:50 PM
Jun 20

Last edited Sat Jun 20, 2026, 04:43 PM - Edit history (1)

wrap it all up nicely. No need to dress it up in horseshit.

bob4460

(417 posts)
51. The sane washing is intense
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 05:34 PM
Jun 20

And I am sick of it too. I have about stopped watching all MSM media.

Blue Owl

(60,239 posts)
55. They've propped that fat fuck pedophile up long enough
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 06:59 PM
Jun 20

Time for the house of cards to come tumbling down, starting with CBS, CNN, NYT, and then the rest

Cha

(321,799 posts)
56. I can imagine how sick to
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 07:55 PM
Jun 20

Smithereeens you are with the constant Gaslighting Bullshit aimed at the American people and really the world.
I stopped in November 2002.

If only there were some other way to get the news without that Fascist Orwellian Propaganda.


GAJMac

(273 posts)
58. OK, a bit off-subject,
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:09 PM
Jun 20

But was your final line a "hat tip" to the near forgotten teleplay/musical "Li'l Abner"? I thought I was the only one who remembered Kickapoo Joy Juice.

struggle4progress

(127,423 posts)
60. A primary task of the corporate media is to encourage you to watch and believe the ads
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:44 PM
Jun 20

Informing you --- that the ruling class might use the machinery for mass production of consciousness, to spread sweet little lies --- well, that just isn't very high on the agenda

You'll get some glimpses of the truth, when the internal splits in the ruling coalitions lead to genuine power struggles, and the mechanisms of self-censorship temporarily fail

bmichaelh

(1,336 posts)
62. Where is Edward R Murrow?
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:07 AM
Jun 21

Where is the MSM journalist to challenge Trump in the way Edward R Murrow challenged Joseph McCarthy?

DFW

(60,923 posts)
64. Instant editing has become very advanced
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 06:04 AM
Jun 21

You don't see the strings pulling his movements, nor the speakers playing out dialogue using his voice, but being read by others, with the sound coming through flat speakers in the inner pockets of his suit jacket.

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