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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGet This!! The USPS is appealing the ruling against them that orders they cannot
refuse to mail ballots regarding Trump's executive order. This is the order that mandates that the Post Office cannot deliver your mail ballots if your state has not submitted their voter roles.
Postal Services appeals court order blocking Trumps anti-mail voting order
The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) has asked a federal court to pause its order blocking the implementation of President Donald Trumps executive order against mail voting as it appeals the ruling.
Meanwhile, Democratic elected officials are urging the USPS not to move forward with the order, warning that doing so will make it harder for states to smoothly administer the upcoming midterms.
In a filing Monday, the federal government argued that unless the court grants a stay, the sweeping injunction will severely disrupt USPSs efforts to potentially promulgate a final rule fulfilling Trumps March 2026 order ahead of Novembers midterms elections.
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https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/postal-services-appeals-court-order-blocking-trumps-anti-mail-voting-order/
I mean WTF??? When did the post office become an arm of The White House and the Republican Party?? They are claiming "irreparable harm" in their appeal. So afraid this will end up on the Shadow Docket at the Supreme Court.
Also see this video. Harry Littman breaks it down.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1322121085
Blues Heron
(9,216 posts)bluestarone
(22,664 posts)orthoclad
(5,377 posts)when DeJoy destroyed mail-handling machines, removed most mailboxes, and refused to obey a court order about ballots. We let him get away with ALL of it!
And we let them continue without purging the scoundrels and criminals in 21 22 23 24...
House of Roberts
(6,759 posts)When Trump installed Louis DeJoy as the head of it. That may not be who is in charge of it now, but that's when it started.
orthoclad
(5,377 posts)Akakoji
(660 posts)Postal carriers have been screaming about it for decades. At this point most of the competent postal carriers have retired or quit. The newer ones are beyond unqualified. The goal is to piss so many people off that they beg for the USPS to be privatized.
TommyT139
(2,580 posts)Maine letter carriers say Collins paved the way for Trumps attack on postal service
Years before the Trump administration began instituting cost-cutting measures that has created a national slowdown in mail delivery, Sen. Susan Collins sponsored legislation that Maine letter carriers now say manufactured a financial crisis in the U.S. Postal Service that has been used ever since to justify calls for privatization.
In 2005, Collins introduced the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA). In 2006, it became law and required the post office to pay for retirement healthcare benefits for workers 75 years into the future. No other federal agency or private corporation has been saddled with such a massive pre-funding mandate.
From Aug. 12, 2020 https://mainebeacon.com/maine-letter-carriers-say-collins-paved-the-way-for-trumps-attack-on-postal-service/
struggle4progress
(127,435 posts)will persuade these brazen fuckwits to deliver your mail"
MadameButterfly
(4,368 posts)while Biden was president. Is he still there and behind this? What did we expect?
Kingofalldems
(40,434 posts)JoseBalow
(10,004 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,327 posts)As far as I know, he never made a single move to try to remove him.
orthoclad
(5,377 posts)Celerity
(55,591 posts)the reason DeJoy was not removed was because Biden appointed people, including Dems, to the UPS board who did not want to remove DeJoy.
Here is a 4 plus year old reply of mine:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216689232#post9
that Kos piece is based off faulty logic, as it assumes that just because there will be 5 Biden nominees that means they will vote for sure to remove him. That is not the case for sure at all.

https://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/1.12.22-Lexington-Issue-Brief.pdf
A host of progressive activists, including Senators Sanders, Warren, and Baldwin and
dozens of members of Congress have called for the firing of Postmaster General Louis
DeJoy, a one-time major fundraiser and megadonor for Donald Trump and the
Republican Party. With the likely confirmation of Bidens two pending appointments, five members of the Board of Governors that select the Postmaster General will have been appointed by President Biden and four by President Trump.
So why wont DeJoy be gone?
When fully constituted, there are nine members of the Board of Governors who vote on the hiring decision. There are currently eight such governors and one vacancy. One of 2 those current governors, appointed by President Trump, would be replaced by a Biden nominee upon Senate confirmation. Two of the current eight Governors voted against naming Ron Bloom, a DeJoy supporter, as chairman of the Board of Governors at a November 10 meeting. That, however, is far different than the more drastic action of firing a Postmaster General.
The Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) also says that an absolute
majority of the Governors in office shall be required to remove a Postmaster General.
As such, abstaining is equivalent to voting to keep the Postmaster General in office. The
practical effect is that five Governors will need to vote to remove DeJoy. Governor Amber McReynolds, who was nominated by President Biden and joined the Board in May, was not at the November 10 meeting and did not vote on the Bloom matter.
Earlier, on August 19, 2021, she was asked directly on MSNBC whether DeJoy should be
fired and declined to say he should be, thus incurring much social media anger from
progressives. Governor McReynolds is a nationwide leader in promoting election mail,
which USPS has handled well under DeJoy. She is not going to want to jeopardize this in
any way and will be very thoughtful and deliberate in her decision making.
Governor Anton Hajjar, another Biden appointee, may also have trepidation with firing DeJoy. Hajjar previously served as general counsel of the American Postal Workers Union (APWU). Last month, the APWU reached a three-year collective bargaining agreement with USPS that union leadership strongly lauded and which is generally seen as a good deal for the unions members. Furthermore, President Bidens two nominees on November 19 Dan Tangherlini and Derek Kan are by no means shoe-ins to vote to remove DeJoy. In fact, Kan served at several positions in the Trump Administration and has also worked for Senator Mitch McConnell.
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MadameButterfly
(4,368 posts)when they had the power. DeJoy's willingness to threaten voting and the PO itself was obvious under Trump. It appears he layed low under Biden and convinced people he was an ally. Of course he did and Dems fell for it.
Why Biden wasn't appointing people who would for sure get the PO back on track and reliable for elections is a mystery to me.
BaronChocula
(5,075 posts)And this is authoritarianism. It's not to the point where an 80-year old with dementia can get away with whatever he wants, but he can order accomplices to do improper or illegal things just to see if anyone will tire of stopping him.
RB77
(156 posts)Remember when DeJoy was removing postal equipment, laying off employees and whatever he can do to interrupt mail-in voting? 6 years later, hes still here. I guess everybody forgot. 😔
Hes (DeJoy) is not the postmaster general anymore. I should have checked - my bad, - sorry everybody. - 😔
pwb
(12,832 posts)They will have to cancel all mail to stop that from being delivered. Otherwise they are stealing from us and not providing a service for the money we already spent.
hookaleft
(1,508 posts)they will not even deliver your mail ballot from the registrar so you can vote.
pwb
(12,832 posts)the service is complete? Trusted. Courts could help but will they. A sad thought, something we trusted our whole lives taken because of an election sore loser.
dlk
(13,520 posts)They will stop at nothing.
Vinca
(54,640 posts)It originated in Daytona Beach, Florida and, in a couple of days, made it up to New Hampshire to the hub where they sort mail to be sent to my little post office. It's about 50 miles away from me tops. This morning I checked the tracking to see if the package was delivered to my post office and astonishingly it was flown back to Florida and was in Orlando. Since then, it's departed Orlando to heaven knows where. The last thing we need is the post office involved in voting.
Akakoji
(660 posts)For as long as Ive been alive. It a well established part of the electoral system. For most people in the U.S. the USPS delivers more than mail. Sounds like youre talking about a package, correct? Would you prefer Bezos and Amazon deliver all medications to women, for example? Not having the option of voting by mail is exactly what Trump wants. As is having the voter rolls in every state. Why? He wants to know exactly where he needs to physically harass and intimidate voters. How many people are terrified at the prospect of being harmed if they even try to vote? This is how fascism works.
Vinca
(54,640 posts)delivering the mail, not checking voter ID. And my beef is they can barely deliver the mail.
Qutzupalotl
(15,896 posts)They are required to follow the LAW.
MadameButterfly
(4,368 posts)Who is going to stop them? I'm sure as hell not putting my ballot in the mail. Voting as early as possible. But I'm not worried about being mistaken for an illegal immigrant.