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EarlG

(22,712 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 10:45 PM Oct 2024

Update on DU's ongoing technical problems

DU is currently online for Star Members only. Here's the message which is currently posted on our home page if you are not signed in as a Star Member:

Our apologies. We are currently experiencing an interruption in service. We have tracked the issue to our database but we are still working to determine the cause. At this time we have no reason to believe that the site has been hacked or is under attack.

The issue has left us with two options: We can either take DU offline for everyone, or we can keep it online by severely restricting connections to our database. Keeping DU open is our priority, even if it means restricting it to a smaller number of people. So at this time only Star Members can access the site. Since we have been forced to limit the number of visitors to DU, we think it is only fair that it should at least be open to the people who help to keep DU online the rest of the year round with their financial support.

If you were hoping to read DU right now and cannot access the site, we know this is a disappointment. With the election just around the corner, this is the worst time for something like this to happen. Unfortunately -- due to factors such as increases in traffic, additional server/software stress, the possibility of bad actors, etc. -- this is also the most likely time that something like this is going to happen. We are working to resolve the issue as soon as we possibly can.

Unfortunately, every four years when the presidential election rolls around, DU is tested in ways that are hard to anticipate. The database problem that's going on right now is not something we've seen before, and it happened without warning. At the moment, we cannot open DU to all visitors without crashing. In addition, the problem is causing multiple posts, which you've no doubt seen.

At this time we have no reason to believe that this has been caused deliberately, by malicious actors. We suspect the cause will turn out to be something far more mundane.

We are going to keep the site online for Star Members only tonight and then discuss the issue with our service provider in the morning. Although we're still not completely sure of the cause, we think we will be able to narrow it down quickly and come up with a solution.
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Update on DU's ongoing technical problems (Original Post) EarlG Oct 2024 OP
Good luck, guys! Dennis Donovan Oct 2024 #1
Thank you so much- and sorry that you have to Tumbulu Oct 2024 #2
Thank you so much for letting us know, my dear EarlG! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2024 #3
Thank you for the update, EarlG. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #4
Thanks for the update, EarlG. sheshe2 Oct 2024 #5
Thanks for the Update The Roux Comes First Oct 2024 #6
Thank you for the update, EarlG ailsagirl Oct 2024 #7
Thanks for keeping us updated, EarlG. calimary Oct 2024 #8
Thanks Earl G .. I'll be glad when this election is over.. I hope! mountain grammy Oct 2024 #9
Thanks, EarlG, for letting us know what is going on - strange things going on tonight never experienced before Rhiannon12866 Oct 2024 #10
Thank you, EarlG and Elad, for being the miracle workers you are. Some of us niyad Oct 2024 #11
Donate to DU here- I'm already a star member, but I don't want DU's tank to run dry. All the political donations I've NBachers Oct 2024 #12
Earl Elad I am sending you both a big kiss.if either of you want it irisblue Oct 2024 #13
If we lose touch. How can we stay informed? Prairie_Seagull Oct 2024 #14
If DU ever goes down completely EarlG Nov 2024 #22
Thank you! Didn't know about the newsletter so just AllyCat Nov 2024 #42
And Instagram! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2024 #61
I broke Democratic Underground RandySF Oct 2024 #15
Thanks EarlG proud patriot Oct 2024 #16
Love this place, love the community. byronius Nov 2024 #17
I have full faith that all will get sorted out Otto_Harper Nov 2024 #18
Paranoid guy here. Jakes Progress Nov 2024 #19
That was actually my first thought, too, Jake slightlv Nov 2024 #20
💙 Thx for the update and best of luck to you. Also, check your DU mail. Hekate Nov 2024 #21
Wishing you luck that whatever is wrong, will be discovered and repaired easily. Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #23
Good luck! &Ty. Get ZZzzzzzs, too 👍 electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #24
Thanks, and good luck to us all! elleng Nov 2024 #25
I have faith in the whole DU team. Thank you!!! BigmanPigman Nov 2024 #26
Thank you, EarlG UpInArms Nov 2024 #27
Thank you for all your hard work! senegal1 Nov 2024 #28
Strength and honor. WheelWalker Nov 2024 #29
Thanks for the update, EarlG! Silver Gaia Nov 2024 #30
Thank you so very much for your diligence. You are all so appreciated judesedit Nov 2024 #31
Good luck and thanks for the update! Coexist Nov 2024 #32
Thank you EarlG! DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #33
I appreciate the information! Really glad you were able to keep in at least partially open. lark Nov 2024 #34
Thank you, EarlG democrank Nov 2024 #35
thank you , EarlG debm55 Nov 2024 #36
Good luck. Old Crank Nov 2024 #37
Many thanks, EarlG and team n/t Alice Kramden Nov 2024 #38
Thank you for everything you and Elad do to keep DU running. yardwork Nov 2024 #39
Many Thanks for all you do mbischoff10 Nov 2024 #40
Thank you EarlG. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #41
Thanks for the update Earl. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #43
Thank you EarlG for the update and all that you do MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #44
Nice to know you guys are on top of things here!! bluestarone Nov 2024 #45
I want it closed for the election, anyway wryter2000 Nov 2024 #46
New Star RecoveringJournalist Nov 2024 #47
Thank you for the update. Fla Dem Nov 2024 #48
Thank you for your plan, and the information. I clearly remember interference at a critical time. Judi Lynn Nov 2024 #49
Hey man, we need you Tuesday night, best of luck! Montauk6 Nov 2024 #50
Thanks for the update and everything that you all do to maintain this site for us. Just donated a bit more. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2024 #51
I know in previous years, DU has been closed off on election night to anybody except star members to prevent crashing bearsfootball516 Nov 2024 #52
We are with you Earl, even unto the end of the universe and then some! GreenWave Nov 2024 #53
Ty Earl Tribetime Nov 2024 #54
Thank you for the update ! kimbutgar Nov 2024 #55
You guys are the best blogslug Nov 2024 #56
Dude, are you needing hardware expansion? Can we help? TygrBright Nov 2024 #57
Thank you for the update and for what you do. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #58
My problem 3auld6phart Nov 2024 #59
They can have my D.U. orangecrush Nov 2024 #60
Would it help if star members Marthe48 Nov 2024 #62
I remember when it went down on election night Tree Lady Nov 2024 #63
Thanks for letting us know, EarlG. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #64
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #65
... demmiblue Nov 2024 #66
Would it help to only have DU open on one device at a time (reduce connections)? CousinIT Nov 2024 #67
It would not really make any difference EarlG Nov 2024 #69
Thank you EarlG for the information on this. sdfernando Nov 2024 #68
Thanks for all you and Elad do for all of us! HeartsCanHope Nov 2024 #70
THX FOR THE HARD WORK, WE ALL APPRECIATE IT. WarGamer Nov 2024 #71
Wado for the explaining this ............ turbinetree Nov 2024 #72
The addiction is real! bobandrileysmom Nov 2024 #73
Me too. buzzard Nov 2024 #78
Kicking spooky3 Nov 2024 #74
Thank you , EarlG, for the info and update wendyb-NC Nov 2024 #75
Well, at least it wasn't the time change that did it FullySupportDems Nov 2024 #76
Boom... Mahalo, EarlG & Elad! I've always been a Star Member... Cha Nov 2024 #77

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,839 posts)
3. Thank you so much for letting us know, my dear EarlG!
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:01 PM
Oct 2024

Best of luck in getting to the bottom of the problem!

We will hang in!

calimary

(85,095 posts)
8. Thanks for keeping us updated, EarlG.
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:21 PM
Oct 2024

Wishing you some speedy luck in your troubleshooting!

Rhiannon12866

(227,303 posts)
10. Thanks, EarlG, for letting us know what is going on - strange things going on tonight never experienced before
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:25 PM
Oct 2024

But at least we're still here and appreciate all your efforts to keep DU accessible during this important and stressful time. Thank you for all you do, and Elad too!

niyad

(121,911 posts)
11. Thank you, EarlG and Elad, for being the miracle workers you are. Some of us
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:25 PM
Oct 2024

did, of course, have flashbacks to 2016. But we are breathing a bit easier now, confident that whatever this issue is, it can be dealt with.

We hope you two can get at least some sleep tonight!

NBachers

(18,273 posts)
12. Donate to DU here- I'm already a star member, but I don't want DU's tank to run dry. All the political donations I've
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:30 PM
Oct 2024

made; I can help pay Democratic Underground's bills, too.

Click the One-Time Online Payment button, or send in a check.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=star&select=1

irisblue

(34,595 posts)
13. Earl Elad I am sending you both a big kiss.if either of you want it
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:31 PM
Oct 2024

So your beloveds and any kids sleep well tonight

May it be so

Amen

Prairie_Seagull

(3,945 posts)
14. If we lose touch. How can we stay informed?
Thu Oct 31, 2024, 11:42 PM
Oct 2024

I will keep my own traffic down.

Thanks for everything guys.

EarlG

(22,712 posts)
22. If DU ever goes down completely
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:35 AM
Nov 2024

The site will be essentially replaced by an information page explaining the situation. We'll also post information on our Facebook page. And we'll send out an email to anyone who is on our mailing list. If you receive our weekly "Last Week In Review" email, then you're on the mailing list. If you aren't on the mailing list but would like to be, you can sign up on our Contact page.

AllyCat

(17,428 posts)
42. Thank you! Didn't know about the newsletter so just
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:06 AM
Nov 2024

Signed up! Go on Threads?? That would be awesome!

byronius

(7,655 posts)
17. Love this place, love the community.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:02 AM
Nov 2024

Always been my choice for the best news aggregator on the internet.

Stuff happens. Whatevs. If DU functions, the nation functions.

Donating a little bit more now. Totally worth it.

Jakes Progress

(11,195 posts)
19. Paranoid guy here.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:09 AM
Nov 2024

Could the database be under attack to copy the names of members for magat reasons?

slightlv

(4,698 posts)
20. That was actually my first thought, too, Jake
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:15 AM
Nov 2024

Trying to get the user database as a probably stand-in for Harris voters.

Hekate

(95,959 posts)
21. 💙 Thx for the update and best of luck to you. Also, check your DU mail.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:27 AM
Nov 2024

Last edited Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Dem2theMax

(10,551 posts)
23. Wishing you luck that whatever is wrong, will be discovered and repaired easily.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:02 AM
Nov 2024

None of us can live without DU.
Especially this coming week!

Thank you, EarlG and Elad, for all you do for us.

Silver Gaia

(4,941 posts)
30. Thanks for the update, EarlG!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 06:22 AM
Nov 2024

And deepest gratitude to you guys for all you do for us, for Democrats, and for DEMOCRACY. You keep us sane (as much as possible anyhow). We love ya. ❤️

DemonGoddess

(5,125 posts)
33. Thank you EarlG!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 07:21 AM
Nov 2024

Now, this may sound silly, but have you checked how the scripts are handling multiple calls to data in a record? Mind you, I'm very rusty with this, but I do remember that as having been an issue for me in the past with a massive db.

lark

(24,478 posts)
34. I appreciate the information! Really glad you were able to keep in at least partially open.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 07:47 AM
Nov 2024

This old star member really needs this site, especially these days so thank you, thank you and good luck fixing the fuckery.

mbischoff10

(7 posts)
40. Many Thanks for all you do
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 08:44 AM
Nov 2024

Appreciate all you do to keep us informed daily, this is the calm place in the storm.

bluestarone

(18,649 posts)
45. Nice to know you guys are on top of things here!!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:30 AM
Nov 2024

Thank you very much for this site and your hard work!!

wryter2000

(47,666 posts)
46. I want it closed for the election, anyway
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:33 AM
Nov 2024

Remember the year we were hacked at the election time? Bummer.

47. New Star
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:36 AM
Nov 2024

I just became a Star member. This forum is DEFINITELY worth it. Hopefully others will do the same. GOTV everyone! And thank you Admins! 💙💙💙

Fla Dem

(26,188 posts)
48. Thank you for the update.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:43 AM
Nov 2024

I just wonder if the multitude of podcasts and videos now being posted are overwhelming the system. It has become a forest, especially in GD.

Judi Lynn

(162,815 posts)
49. Thank you for your plan, and the information. I clearly remember interference at a critical time.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:51 AM
Nov 2024

No one here was surprised, at the time. Didn't take long to guess why it happened.

If this works to improve our chances of staying connected, you've undoubtedly saved everyone's sanity!

Good luck to us all! Thank you.


iluvtennis

(21,023 posts)
51. Thanks for the update and everything that you all do to maintain this site for us. Just donated a bit more. n/t
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:54 AM
Nov 2024

bearsfootball516

(6,547 posts)
52. I know in previous years, DU has been closed off on election night to anybody except star members to prevent crashing
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:55 AM
Nov 2024

May have to do it again.

TygrBright

(21,006 posts)
57. Dude, are you needing hardware expansion? Can we help?
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 10:39 AM
Nov 2024

I would be happy to donate.

I would say "enable 10 new star memberships for people who want them but can't afford it" but I do not want to add to the traffic issues if they are currently part of the problem.

However, it's sounding like y'all could use some boost - and I'd hate to see a redux of 2016 on the site. So - need help? ASK.

encouragingly,
Bright

Scrivener7

(53,798 posts)
58. Thank you for the update and for what you do.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 2024

I'm relieved it isn't looking like a hack. I need this place on Tuesday.

Marthe48

(19,912 posts)
62. Would it help if star members
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:57 AM
Nov 2024

took turns? Or limited their screen time? I shut the DU window yesterday, and had to try 2 times to get back on. I'm willing to look at the DU page on fb, or just take a break.

Tree Lady

(12,212 posts)
63. I remember when it went down on election night
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:56 PM
Nov 2024

so whatever it takes to stay open, thank you!

Response to EarlG (Original post)

CousinIT

(10,831 posts)
67. Would it help to only have DU open on one device at a time (reduce connections)?
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:35 PM
Nov 2024

I have DU loaded on my phone, iPad, desktop, laptop, etc.

Maybe if star members close the browser or tab / quit sessions on all devices but one at a time that would help?

EarlG

(22,712 posts)
69. It would not really make any difference
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 03:01 PM
Nov 2024

We've completely restricted access so that only Star Members can access DU, but the site is still lagging. There aren't really any more band aids that can be applied -- the goal now is to try to fix the problem so that we can get the whole site back online and running as normal.

To be completely clear, this problem is not being caused by expected high traffic -- we knew that traffic would be significantly higher throughout the election period, and we expected our servers to be able to handle the load. That said, it wouldn't be a surprise if we had to restrict access on election night itself, just because the increase in traffic could potentially be overwhelming -- but aside from that, there should be no issues with the way the site is performing.

What we didn't expect was this database glitch, which we now have to resolve. I don't think there's any way to realistically reduce traffic any further in a way that would significantly improve things -- we just have to get the bug fixed, and unfortunately we'll have to kind of hobble along while that's happening.

sdfernando

(5,522 posts)
68. Thank you EarlG for the information on this.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:46 PM
Nov 2024

I very much appreciate all of you working your butts off to keep this site up and running....especially at this time of year. Working in IT I know the challenges and unexpected issues that can crop up.

Kudos to you and the entire DU team!

bobandrileysmom

(39 posts)
73. The addiction is real!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 05:29 PM
Nov 2024

I never realized how addicted I was to this site until it went down for more than 6 hours! Immediately had to become a star member!

buzzard

(1,766 posts)
78. Me too.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 08:38 PM
Nov 2024

Have been here since 2004, just not a prolific poster at all, but I love to see what is being discussed and seeing different perspectives. I guess in some ways I like to see there are many people with the same concerns as me it feels like a community.

wendyb-NC

(3,971 posts)
75. Thank you , EarlG, for the info and update
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 05:56 PM
Nov 2024

Bravo, for the work you and the rest of DU's cyber gurus do to address potential and real issues, due to whatever. This is a wonderful democratic community and website. DU is my go to site to get informed about what is going on in our country, because it is trustworthy and referenced when news is posted.

Thank you all, for making DU a great site.

FullySupportDems

(264 posts)
76. Well, at least it wasn't the time change that did it
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 06:10 PM
Nov 2024

Because it hasn't happened yet. It sounds like a thorny problem. Hang in there, you're awesome! 😊

Cha

(306,795 posts)
77. Boom... Mahalo, EarlG & Elad! I've always been a Star Member...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 06:47 PM
Nov 2024

It does have its perks besides helping out the site that's been home for 22 years.

Besides I like Stars💙

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