Musk calls MAGA element "contemptible fools" as virtual civil war brews

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Axios

12 hours ago


Elon Musk condemned a segment of the MAGA movement as "contemptible fools" who should be purged from the Republican Party in a social media post Friday.

Why it matters: A virtual right-wing civil war has broken out over race, class, immigration and the future of President-elect Trump's movement, and Musk is increasingly at odds with Trump's historic base.

The schism may force Trump to ultimately take sides between the largely white, working-class supporters who first made MAGA succeed, and the techno-libertarian billionaires like Musk who are at the center of his new administration.

Catch up quick: On Thursday, Musk ally and Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) co-leader Vivek Ramaswamy posted a lengthy condemnation of American culture and its supposed embrace of mediocrity.

Musk spent the next 24 hours defending Ramaswamy and advancing his argument that America needs highly skilled immigrants to fill high-tech jobs.

That argument landed with a thud in the MAGA wing that wants to stop immigration and preserve jobs for American workers.

Zoom in: On Friday, cartoonist and right-wing commentator Scott Adams posted on X that MAGA was "taking a page from Democrats on how to lose elections while feeling good about themselves."

Musk agreed, and took it a step further.

"And those contemptible fools must be removed from the Republican Party, root and stem," he posted.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2024/12/27/elon-musk-contemptible-fools-maga-doge

[Girard442]

1. A bunch of snakes in a bag can't compromise and cooperate.

Who could have predicted?

[Shipwack]

35. I like Stephanie Miller's "rats in a bag" analogy... nt

[SleeplessinSoCal]

2. I kinda like this "war".

We don't have to fight in it.

[elleng]

3. Right, 'just' watch and smile,

and think about 3 egos.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. I am just thinking of all the weight I'm going to gain from eating all the popcorn.

[johnnyfins]

32. Not quite accurate

They will find a way to either drag dems into it, or just blame all of it on dems. Wait.

[ck4829]

45. Yes, they can keep doing this

[C_U_L8R]

4. Seems the useful idiots aren't so useful anymore

Tossed like yesterday's garbage. It's not like they weren't warned.

[everyonematters]

5. The right-wing media pushes xenophobia because it is good for ratings.

If we had a better education system, then we wouldn't need as many techno - immigrants.

[jvill]

13. Our education system remains one of the best in the world.

All these tech bros are comparing average Americans to the top .1% of Indians who get visas and come here to work. On average, the US educates more and better than Indian programs.

(See: https://jabberwocking.com/there-were-no-good-old-days-in-america/)

Don’t fall for their inane bullshit.

Instead, encourage the two groups of morons to fight each other.

[onlyadream]

15. I believe

Most of the Indian engineers were educated in the USA. My whole family is comprised of engineers and this what we see.

[Dulcinea]

6. There are plenty of engineers in America.

The Silicon Valley techbros don't want to pay them what they're worth. Better to import engineers from overseas with H1B visas, which means skilled workers who will work for considerably less & who can't quit without losing their visas & being sent home. Basically, H1B workers are indentured servants.

[uncledad]

11. That is certainly part of it

but my experience as an engineer for 35 years is that in the last couple decades we just could not find qualified people who were interested in the jobs.

[jvill]

14. Nope, that's factually inaccurate.

I work in tech, hire and manage engineers. Statistically speaking, the H1Bs make the same, or more, on average, than natives for the same roles. It’s not a money thing for tech companies. It’s purely volume.

(See: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/indian-immigration-is-great-for-america)

But part of the reason we have a volume issue, is because the right wing spent the past 50 years telling Americans that smart people are to be shunned and mocked. That experts and skilled people are actually idiots.. That it’s better to be a loud moron than a quiet genius. That science and technology are for NEEEERDSSS…

And so here we are.

[onlyadream]

16. My son who works in Silicon Valley said this exact thing.

He claims that it’s not about the money, however, he works for one of the hugest companies in the world. My husband, on the other hand, who worked for large companies, but not as large as my son’s, disagrees and says that it is about the money. So I think it depends..

[uncle ray]

21. i respectfully disagree that there are plenty of engineers.

there may seem to be a significant number of Americans with degrees in engineering, but unfortunately not enough that have practical experience in their field, meaning smart people who can get their hands dirty actually doing the things they are trying to engineer. we need engineers who know how to weld, machine, fabricate, wire, perform chemical processing, etc. H1B visa holders don't generally fit this need either, and they end up being more expensive than Americans, as they generally need assistance from their employer and coworkers with all aspects of American life: finding housing, transportation, medical care etc. and the time and cost of dealing with immigration is not insignificant either, tons of paperwork to process through a slow overburdened system, then losing your H1B visa holder while they return to their home country periodically as required. they can't even work remote when "home" due to theft of IP by their home government.

i walked away from a well paying engineering job a year ago to pursue my own thing due to the stress level and to stop enriching private equity leeches with my labor. every month i visit with my former coworkers and manager, every month i'm begged to return despite the fact that they've hired several people to fill my role. the ads for my position have been up constantly since i left. i can't tell you how many millions if not billions of reshoring projects i've seen passed up due to lack of engineering and support resources.

[lonely bird]

7. Interesting

It appears that Musk and RamaSmarmy are laying the seeds for an internal Cultural Revolution.

They are also, obviously, hoping for a neo-feudal society.

[Magoo48]

10. Preseason is almost over, and the open fissures of contention are clearly visible.

Once the regular season begins, these fissures will become crevasses and cover the entire field of play. Of course, both sides are losers, while we taxpayers pay the players and are also on the hook for repairs to the field.

[lonely bird]

55. Have to agree

The mess will wash over the righteous and unrighteousness alike.

[ck4829]

46. They really are

[HUAJIAO]

8. Reminds me a little of the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks and we know who won THAT little spat.

[uncledad]

9. "the MAGA wing that wants to stop immigration and preserve jobs for American workers"

Why can't the "poorly educated" fill these jobs? Most magats made to at least 8th grade, how hard could it be to be an engineer?

if the GOP hadn't spent the last thirty years tearing down public education and replacing math and science with fantastical sky wizard studies we as a country wouldn't be in this position. I worked as an engineer for 35 years and most of the H1B people I had to work with were substandard at best but companies are forced to hire them because our country just doesn't have enough people with basic math, science, learning skills to even start an internship. So Ramadamadingdong isn't wrong he just doesn't see that the party he belongs to is largely responsible for the "mediocrity" It's a sad state of affairs.

[Icanthinkformyself]

12. As usual,

The right didn't think this through.
The cognitively challenged MAGA, "The leopards won't eat my face, right? Right? Anyone?"

[ck4829]

47. Indeed

[33taw]

17. Trump told them "I don't care about you, I just want your vote". FAFO

[ck4829]

48. Yep

[sinkingfeeling]

19. Psst. So does Trump

[Grins]

20. "Two immigrants walk into a bar..."

One of them illegal.
The other a Soros beneficiary because of his minority status.

And hilarity ensued.

[moose65]

22. Wow. That didn't take long!

I figured that the break would come, but not until after Trump is officially president!

Oh well. We knew it was coming, and of course, an immigrant (Musk) and the child of immigrants (Ramaswamy) are going to be in favor of immigration.

Makes one wonder which side Trump will take. He doesn't need the MAGAs any longer, so I'm betting he sides with the billionaires!

[slightlv]

23. Oh, please!

Let them eat themselves down to the marrow in their bones!

[TBF]

24. snacks, anyone?

[maspaha]

28. Pass the popcorn please! I'll pass the beverages!

[patricia92243]

25. Make college affordable. There is a world of talent that is not being utilized

because they cannot further their skills because of the lack of the thousands of dollars to go to certain colleges.

[ck4829]

49. But college is evil socialism liberalism lesbianism islam marxism satanism inc.

... from me anyway

[33taw]

51. Unless, you are rich. Then go to college - preferably an elite college.

[patphil]

26. The good news is that we don't have to worry about Musk taking over the Republican party anymore.

It's members are about 99% Maga, and he just dissed them big time.
Arrogance is his strong suit; he sure has a lot of it.
Political smarts is where he's in very short supply.
Bad DOGE!

[bucolic_frolic]

27. Ditched coalition building in favor of dictatorship open warfare

[maspaha]

30. Isn't that what Trump wants?

Every one fighting amongst themselves for dear leader’s favor?

[CanonRay]

29. Those contempt able fools are all the GOP that exists.

Is that another way of saying deplorable?

[not fooled]

31. President Musk finally says something factually accurate

Hahahahahahahahaha maggots your idol revealed his actual opinion of you and your dumbass movement.

[ck4829]

50. Took him long enough

[Mr. Sparkle]

33. This is the gift(grift) that keeps on giving

[Martin68]

34. This was inevitable. Musk wants to get his way. Immediately. Not gonna happen in the MAGAverse (or anyplace

else, for that matter). I wonder how long it will take him to turn against Trump. He has no compunctions about biting the hand that feeds him.

[Borogove]

36. Not surprised by any of this. Always thought it was an unnatural coalition to begin with.

[appleannie1]

37. The Land of the Lunatics at it's finest.

The only thing they know how to do is divide and squabble.

[andym]

38. Musk and Vivek want a pure meritocracy-- thus they are against DEI. MAGAs don't want DEI because they think it deprives

them of opportunities as they are mostly white Americans. However, they don't want to compete with immigrants who may be better trained or smarter. They are also obsessed with "illegals" because they see them as threats to their political and economic power should the undocumented become citizens. But note, H1B's would be legal and they still don't want them. Thus a MAGA civil war coming right up.

[Marie Marie]

39. Better be careful there Leon...

it is not the Liberals that you need to fear. Those "contemptible fools" that you are attacking are that wing of the MAGAT party who are all angry and armed and just itchin' for a target You know, like those Jan 6ers all dressed up in their Camo and Flag clothes breaking doors and busting heads.

[C0RI0LANUS]

40. So, let me get this straight about this "lengthy condemnation of American culture" from these two schmucks.

This so-called condemnation of American culture comes from Vivek Ramaswamy who was raised in the US as an acme Brahmin in the Hindu caste system which considers Untouchables less than pond scum.


Untouchable (or Dalit) mother and child in India (undated photo).

And in 2011, this hypocrite accepted a post-graduate fellowship from the Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans. In 2023 Ramaswamy paid an editor to remove this fact from his Wikipedia entry.

The other creature, immigration fraudster Felon Musk, never condemned this culture in Suid-Afrika:

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Here's American culture, you two elitist vampires:

[voteragain]

41. looks like

the Night of the Long Knives is approaching.

trumper's storm troopers never read up on history....

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. "Maga is retarded." - Elon Musk

Link to tweet

[republianmushroom]

43. Who control the republican party, why President Muskrat.

[ck4829]

44. K&R

[BoRaGard]

52. He's not wrong

[no_hypocrisy]

53. Loving this

Keep going Elon.

You won’t swallow your vomit.

[Ocelot II]

54. I was waiting for something like this, but I didn't think it would happen so soon.

In recent years the GOP has been a coalition of greedy libertarians who hate regulation; Nazi-adjacent, racist, anti-immigrant bigots; extreme social conservatives with weird gender issues who love regulation if it pertains to women, trans people and bathrooms; and Christian nationalists. Their areas of concerns overlap enough that they lined up behind Trump, but sooner or later their issues were bound to clash. Eloon started throwing so much money at Trump that he effectively owns him already, and once he and the other billionaire tech bros had Trump's ear, the coalition started to crack. I didn't think this would happen until the mass deportations began and eggs got really expensive, but Eloon has jump-started the process.