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aggiesal

(9,657 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 06:29 PM Jan 13

Tooth Decay Rose in Canadian Cities Without Fluoride. RFK Wants This for the US.

Source: Truthout


Dental students, working as volunteers, attend to patients at a mobile dental and medical clinic on October 7, 2023, in Grundy, Virginia. Spencer Platt / Getty Images

It’s not uncommon for Canadian dentist Brandon Doucet to see patients who are in so much pain that they’ve tried to extract their own teeth.

As a dental student, Doucet was inspired by Bernie Sanders’s first presidential campaign and realized that he needed to take action where he was, in Halifax, Nova Scotia. In 2019, Doucet founded a group called the Coalition for Dental Care to advocate for public access to dental health care in Canada.
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No More Fluoridation in Montreal
On November 27, 2024, the City of Montreal announced that it would no longer add fluoride to drinking water at two of the city’s water treatment plants, Pointe-Claire and Dorval. They processed just 5 percent of the city’s drinking water and were among the very few locations in the province that still fluorinated its water in Quebec. The vast majority of the province (99 percent) does not put fluoride in its water.
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Some Cities Return to Fluoride, But Municipalities Face Budget Constraints
Aimee Dawson, a dentist and dentistry professor at Laval University in Quebec City, points to Calgary and Edmonton as two cities that have offered a real-life test in the utility of water fluoridation. She said that there was a clear increase in the number of dental caries that were being treated in Calgary when the city stopped fluoridation in 2011, as compared to Edmonton, which still fluoridates its drinking water. Researchers found that among two cohorts of grade-two children in both cities, the ones in Edmonton had a 55.1 percent prevalence of dental caries while the ones in Calgary had a 64.8 percent prevalence.

Read more: https://truthout.org/articles/tooth-decay-rose-in-canadian-cities-without-fluoride-rfk-wants-this-for-the-us/



RFK Jr. needs to be stopped, otherwise not just fluoride & vaccines will disappear, but just about all of the kooky nonsense will be on the table that are in RFK Jr.'s worm riddled brain.
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Farmer-Rick

(11,605 posts)
2. The new symbol of Nazi dominance
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jan 13

Instead of saying Nazis made the trains run on time, they will be smiling and showing off their rotten teeth.

Irish_Dem

(62,112 posts)
4. Yes give people dental problems and make sure they cannot afford to go to the dentist.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jan 13

Putin will laugh his head off in glee.

America is failed form of govt. Americans are toothless.

Evolve Dammit

(19,592 posts)
3. He is a complete asshole. Whale head cutting, Roadkill bear to Central Park; yeah that's what we need anti-vax ass wipe
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jan 13

Who would have thought that a member of the Kennedy family would be touting heroin as a "got me good grades in college" answer?????
Figures Drumpf chose him above any qualified physicians and encouraged him to "go wild." Buckle up.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
5. Didn't the Kennedy family have an opium legacy in their heritage?
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jan 13

And now Jr shills for heroin.

womanofthehills

(9,438 posts)
6. CNN -" Children exposed to higher fluoride levels have lower IQs, a government study finds
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jan 13

CNN https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/06/health/children-higher-fluoride-levels-lower-iqs-government-study/index.html

“A rigorous nine-year research review looking at the relationship between fluoride and intelligence in children concludes that as fluoride levels rise, IQ drops.”

“Every 1 part per million increase in fluoride in urine — a way of measuring all the sources of fluoride a person consumes — was associated with a roughly 1 point drop in a child’s IQ score, the review concluded.”

“Although an impact like that may seem small for any one person, on a wider scale, the study authors note, the consequences are significant, especially for those who are vulnerable because of risk factors like poverty and nutrition.””

“A 5-point decrease in a population’s IQ would nearly double the number of people classified as intellectually disabled,” they write in their conclusions.”

NickB79

(19,720 posts)
9. This metastudy?
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jan 13
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/01/controversial-fluoride-analysis-published-after-years-of-failed-reviews/

The study, published in JAMA Pediatrics, is a meta-analysis, a type of study that combines data from many different studies—in this case, mostly low-quality studies—to come up with new results. None of the data included in the analysis is from the US, and the fluoride levels examined are at least double the level recommended for municipal water in the US. In some places in the world, fluoride is naturally present in water, such as parts of China, and can reach concentrations several-fold higher than fluoridated water in the US.

The authors of the analysis are researchers at the National Toxicology Program at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. For context, this is the same federal research program that published a dubious analysis in 2016 suggesting that cell phones cause cancer in rats. The study underwent a suspicious peer-review process and contained questionable methods and statistics.

The new fluoride analysis shares similarities. NTP researchers have been working on the fluoride study since 2015 and submitted two drafts for peer review to an independent panel of experts at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine in 2020 and 2021. The study failed its review both times. The National Academies' reviews found fault with the methods and statistical rigor of the analysis. Specifically, the reviews noted potential bias in the selection of the studies included in the analysis, inconsistent application of risk-of-bias criteria, lack of data transparency, insufficient evaluations of potential confounding, and flawed measures of neurodevelopmental outcomes, among other problems.

After the failing reviews, the NTP selected its own reviewers and self-published the study as a monograph in August.

womanofthehills

(9,438 posts)
11. Study came from Health & Human Services Toxicology Program
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jan 13

The report came from the National Toxicology Program, which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services. The Associated Press (AP) said the report includes information from studies conducted in Canada, China, India, Iran, Mexico and Pakistan.

https://www.newsweek.com/government-agency-releases-report-high-fluoride-levels-kids-iq-1942658

NickB79

(19,720 posts)
12. Yep, that's the one
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:14 PM
Jan 13
The related analysis published Monday looked at data from 74 human studies, 45 of which were conducted in China and 12 in India. Of the 74, 52 were rated as having a high risk of bias, meaning they had designs, study methods, or statistical approaches that could skew the results.


As they say, garbage in, garbage out. And this is what your link described as "vigorous"?

womanofthehills

(9,438 posts)
14. Looks like fluoride is not a black & white issue
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jan 14

As we also get fluoride from foods - shrimp, grapes, potatoes, carrots, tea, coffee etc. and kids need way smaller amounts than adults.

“The Fluoride Debate: The Pros and Cons of Fluoridation”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6195894/

dutch777

(3,791 posts)
8. Some folks especially kids miss the fluoride as they use some sort of drinking water filter. My grandkid...
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:57 PM
Jan 13

...was prescribed fluoride drops by her pediatrician as the family uses filtered water for drinking and cooking and many filters pull out the fluoride.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,059 posts)
10. Ultra right John Birchers of 50s & 60s against it too. Kubrick satirized it in Gen. Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove.nt
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 08:51 PM
Jan 13

delisen

(6,727 posts)
15. Fluoridation in many jurisdictions in US is used as substitute for dental care
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:41 AM
Jan 15

The scientific evidence indicates that fluoride affects more than teeth. It accumulates in bone and there is limited research to date on this and other possible negative results from mass fluoridation.of water supplies.

The best argument against the confirmation of RFK, Jr is his ant-vaccine stance. This is the most clear-cut public health issue. It is difficult for the opposition to refute.

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