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mahatmakanejeeves

(62,382 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 05:32 AM Monday

Colombia Agrees to Accept Deportation Flights After Trump Threatens Tariffs

Source: New York Times

Colombia Agrees to Accept Deportation Flights After Trump Threatens Tariffs

The country's leader, Gustavo Petro, backed down after a clash with President Trump, which started when Mr. Petro turned back U.S. military planes carrying deportees.


President Gustavo Petro of Colombia last year. On Sunday, he said the United States should not treat Colombian migrants as criminals. Raul Arboleda/Agence France-Presse -- Getty Images

By Genevieve GlatskySimon Romero and Annie Correal
Genevieve Glatsky reported from Bogot, Colombia, and Simon Romero and Annie Correal from Mexico City.
Published Jan. 26, 2025
Updated Jan. 27, 2025, 2:03 a.m. ET
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Under threats from President Trump that included steep tariffs, President Gustavo Petro of Colombia has relented and will allow U.S. military planes to fly deportees into the country, after turning two transports back in response to what he called inhumane treatment.

The two leaders had engaged in a war of words on Sunday after Colombia's move to block Mr. Trump's use of military aircraft in deporting thousands of unauthorized immigrants.

But on Sunday night, the White House released a statement in which it said that because Mr. Petro had agreed to all of its terms, the tariffs and sanctions Mr. Trump had threatened would be "held in reserve." Other penalties, such as visa sanctions, will remain in effect until the first planeload of deportees has arrived in Colombia, the statement said. ... "Today's events make clear to the world that America is respected again," it added.

Colombia's foreign ministry released a statement soon afterward that said "we have overcome the impasse with the United States government." It said the government would accept all deportation flights and "guarantee dignified conditions" for those Colombians on board.

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The Trump administration's move to use military jets to deport migrants is an expansion on civilian deportation flights, like this one carrying 135 migrants to Guatemala City on Jan. 15. Daniele Volpe for The New York Times

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Eric Schmitt contributed reporting from Washington, Jack Nicas from Rio de Janeiro, Julie Turkewitz from Bogot, and Jody Garca from Guatemala City, Guatemala.

Simon Romero is a Times correspondent covering Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. He is based in Mexico City. More about Simon Romero

Annie Correal reports from the U.S. and Latin America for The Times. More about Annie Correal

A version of this article appears in print on Jan. 27, 2025, Section A, Page 7 of the New York edition with the headline: Colombia Turns Away Deportation Flights, Enraging Trump and Drawing Tariffs. Order Reprints Today's Paper Subscribe

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/world/americas/colombia-us-deportation-flights.html



https://www.nytimes.com/by/genevieve-glatsky

https://www.nytimes.com/by/simon-romero

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/01/26/trump-colombia-deportation-flights-migrants-tariffs/

Trump backs off trade threats after Colombia agrees to deportation flights

The two nations spent much of Sunday in a tense standoff after President Donald Trump announced steep tariffs and visa restrictions on Colombia after the South American nation had turned away two flights.

By Mariana Alfaro, Samantha Schmidt, Karen DeYoung and Trisha Thadani
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Colombia Agrees to Accept Deportation Flights After Trump Threatens Tariffs (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Monday OP
I hope somebody is keeping track of the total cost of this bullshit Walleye Monday #1
The Biden Admin JBTaurus83 Monday #2
WTF? Why did Colombia act tough than back down? So pathetic. LymphocyteLover Monday #3
Because the tariffs would hurt Colombians? onenote Monday #4
It's a NYT article, so that's how it's being reported SledDriver Monday #5
They didn't back down -- the reporting on this is really spreading falsehoods obamanut2012 Monday #6
Yes I see now that Trump capitulated (like he normally does when confronted) LymphocyteLover Monday #14
Pathetic? Or smart move? EX500rider Monday #10
Because it was a stunt. Countries are obligated to repatriate their citizens. mathematic Monday #11
Because they're another country and not "US protesters" LeftInTX Tuesday #16
The road to World War III Miguelito Loveless Monday #7
Gleeful Prairie Gates Monday #8
Question on these flights angrychair Monday #9
I worry about those escaping persecution in their own country being sent back. travelingthrulife Monday #12
The actual dispute was over the conditions during the flight IbogaProject Monday #13
Not a "back down." Colombia was already accepting chartered commercial flights, per prior agreements with Biden. SunSeeker Tuesday #15
Columbia HAD been accepting flights-it was about the use of military planes and feet shackles KatyBR Tuesday #17
EXACTLY SunSeeker Tuesday #18

JBTaurus83

(21 posts)
2. The Biden Admin
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 07:15 AM
Monday

Made hundreds of these flights without any issue. Dump just used this as a propaganda ploy.

onenote

(44,915 posts)
4. Because the tariffs would hurt Colombians?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 08:51 AM
Monday

I know that in the end, if a US company pays the tariff on an imported good, the US consumer ends up bearing the cost. But US companies can t ry to avoid tariffs if there is an alternative source for a product. Colombia isn't the only source of the products that it exports to the US. If US companies look elsewhere to avoid paying the tariffs, Colombia exports drop, and their citizenry suffers.

Easy for us to sit here and say Colombia should get into a trade war with the US, but maybe not so easy for Colombia's leaders.

SledDriver

(2,109 posts)
5. It's a NYT article, so that's how it's being reported
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 09:10 AM
Monday

Trump tough! Threaten tariff! Wimpy Columbia back down because Trump tough!

It's more like the man-child wants to show how macho tough he is by sending them on military transports, because "Me commander in chief! Me boss of military". The military planes were turned away. They've been doing these flights all along by sending them back on commercial airlines. But sending them back in coach on a 737 is not as dramatic as having them shackled in the cargo hold of a C-17.

LymphocyteLover

(7,153 posts)
14. Yes I see now that Trump capitulated (like he normally does when confronted)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 04:22 PM
Monday

and went back to the Biden arrangement

EX500rider

(11,693 posts)
10. Pathetic? Or smart move?
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:41 AM
Monday

In 2021, 0.9% of US exports went to Colombia, and 0.5% of US imports came from Colombia.

Meanwhile 27% of Colombian exports go to the US.

Who gets hurt a lot more here?

mathematic

(1,542 posts)
11. Because it was a stunt. Countries are obligated to repatriate their citizens.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:44 AM
Monday

The guy is massively unpopular in Colombia and I guess he figured this sort of thing would help him improve his future electoral prospects. That remains to be seen.

LeftInTX

(31,904 posts)
16. Because they're another country and not "US protesters"
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 02:03 AM
Tuesday

We see other countries through our "own eyes". We picture them "resisting Trump". Or more like "resisting Trump for us"......

They aren't us. They have their own problems. They are not obsessed with Trump 24/7 the way we are.

Some in Colombia are mad at Petro about this too. His approval ratings are fairly low right now.

angrychair

(10,035 posts)
9. Question on these flights
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:20 AM
Monday

Are they all Colombians or is it mixed? I thought I read they could be any nationality.

IbogaProject

(3,978 posts)
13. The actual dispute was over the conditions during the flight
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 10:56 AM
Monday

They were shackled and Colombia rejected as they knew in advance. Teidrich covered it on his recent post.

SunSeeker

(54,290 posts)
15. Not a "back down." Colombia was already accepting chartered commercial flights, per prior agreements with Biden.
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 01:38 AM
Tuesday

What Colombia objected to was the unannounced military planes and their citizens arriving shackled.

Fuck the NY Times. They totally botched the reporting on this story.

Here's what really happened, from Heather Cox Richardson:

Yesterday, President Donald Trump began a trade war with Colombia after that country’s president refused to permit two U.S. military airplanes full of deportees to land in Colombia. As Regina Garcia Cano and Astrid Suárez of the Associated Press pointed out, Colombia and the U.S. had an existing agreement for deportations under former president Joe Biden, and it accepted 475 deportation flights from 2020 to 2024, accepting 124 flights in 2024 alone. But the Biden administration used commercial and charter flights, while as national security analyst Juliette Kayyem noted, Trump used a military plane that arrived unannounced.

As Tim Naftali of Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs explained: “If a foreign country tries to land its military planes—except in an emergency—without an existing agreement that is an infringement of sovereignty.” Colombia rejected the military planes without prior authorization and offered the use of its presidential plane instead.

Colombia also asked the U.S. to provide notice and decent treatment for its people, an issue that had been raised and resolved in 2023 after migrants arrived in hand and foot cuffs. Colombian president Gustavo Petro noted that the U.S. had committed that it would guarantee dignified conditions for the repatriation of migrants. The plane of migrants landed in Honduras, where Columbia sent its presidential plane to pick them up.

Trump announced that Colombia’s “denial of these flights has jeopardized the National Security and Public Safety of the United States,” and slapped a 25% tariff on products from Colombia, which include about $6 billion of crude petroleum, $1.8 billion of coffee, and $1.6 billion of cut flowers. In addition, he said, the U.S. would revoke the visas of all Colombian “Government Officials, and all Allies and Supporters.” He promptly deported Colombian staff members of the World Bank who were working for international diplomatic organizations in the U.S., and canceled visa appointments at Colombia’s U.S. Embassy.

Rather than backing down, President Petro threatened to levy a retaliatory tariff on U.S. products. Colombia imports 96.7% of the corn it feeds its livestock from the U.S., putting Colombia in the top five export markets for U.S. corn. According to a letter written by a bipartisan group of lawmakers eager to protect that trade, led by Senator Todd Young (R-IN), in 2003 the U.S. exported more than 4 million metric tons of corn to Colombia, which translated to $1.14 billion in sales. “American farmers cannot afford to lose such a vital export market,” the lawmakers wrote, “especially when access to the top U.S. corn export market, Mexico, is already at risk.”

By this morning the economic crisis appeared to be over, although U.S. visa restrictions apparently remain. With prior authorization and better treatment of migrants, Colombia is willing to accept the migrant flights. The White House declared victory, saying: “Today’s events make clear to the world that America is respected again. President Trump will continue to fiercely protect our nation's sovereignty, and he expects all other nations of the world to fully cooperate in accepting the deportation of their citizens illegally present in the United States.”

The administration’s handling of the situation with Colombia reveals that their power depends on convincing people to ignore reality and instead to believe in the fantasy world Trump dictates.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt announced yesterday morning that “[d]eportation flights have begun.” In fact, nothing is “beginning.” In 2024, Colombia accepted on average more than two U.S. flights of migrants a week. And, as immigration scholar Austin Kocher noted, “everyone on this deportation flight was arrested and detained by the Biden administration.”

Over the past four years, Trump and MAGA Republicans repeatedly insisted that Biden had maintained “open borders,” while in fact, what the administration did was to try to address a situation made worse by the coronavirus pandemic.

As Katie Tobin of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace explains, before the coronavirus pandemic, Venezuela, where the economy was particularly bad under rising authoritarian Nicolás Maduro, sent migrants abroad. By June 2022, 6 million Venezuelans had fled their country; by September 2024, that number was 7.7 million. South American governments welcomed the Venezuelan migrants and others, including Haitians fleeing their country’s political chaos.

But as economies collapsed after the coronavirus crisis, Tobin explains, migrant populations that had settled in South American countries were forced out. From 2019 to 2021, Colombia’s per capita gross domestic product fell 4.6%; Peru’s, 5.3%; Ecuador’s, 2.8%; Brazil’s, 11.7%; and Venezuela’s, 20%. As the U.S. economy grew by 8.38%, Canada’s grew by 13.1%, and Mexico’s dropped only by 0.7%, migrants headed north. In September 2021, when 15,000 Haitians who had originally migrated to Brazil arrived at the U.S. border with Mexico, countries throughout the hemisphere realized that they needed a new regional approach to migration.

After nine months of negotiations, 21 countries announced that they had created a new migration pact for the Western Hemisphere. It provided economic support for Latin American countries that were original destinations for migrants, expanded formal pathways for immigration, and increased border security across the region.

Canada and Mexico were the first countries to buy into the new agreement. The U.S. turned next to strong ally Colombia, which agreed in March 2022, after which Vice President Kamala Harris brought on board Caribbean countries. By June 10, when the Los Angeles Declaration on Migration and Protection was announced, twenty-one nations had signed on. U.N. observers were present to demonstrate their support.

The Biden administration insisted that countries begin immediate action, and they did. Tobin notes that Belize, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Panama, and Peru have made sweeping new offers of legal status to hundreds of thousands of migrants already living in their countries, while Colombia has offered legal status to 2 million Venezuelans and Brazil has welcomed more than 500,000. Mexico and Guatemala have offered legal pathways to workers.

Canada, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, Spain, and the U.S. launched a virtual platform to enable migrants to apply for admission remotely. When Mexico agreed to accept Venezuelans who had crossed into the U.S. unlawfully and at the same time the U.S. announced a legal pathway for 24,000 Venezuelans, border crossings dropped 90% within a week. Biden and Mexican president Andrés Manuel López Obrador expanded that initiative to include Cubans, Haitians, and Nicaraguans.

By 2023, border arrests had fallen by about half. Although Congress failed to pass a strong bipartisan measure to increase border security and fund immigration courts, arrests fell by half again after Biden in June 2024 issued a proclamation that barred migrants from being granted asylum when U.S. officials deemed the border was overwhelmed. By the end of Biden’s term, unlawful border crossings had plummeted to lows that hadn’t been seen since June 2020.

There are new challenges to managing migration as wars, climate change, and economic pressures push migrants out of various parts of Africa and out of China. Many of those migrants are finding their way to Latin America and from there to the U.S. The U.N. Refugee Agency estimates that 117 million people were displaced by the end of 2023.

Trump won election in part by vowing to shut down immigration, and as soon as he took office he canceled the CBP One app, the virtual platform that allowed migrants to apply for asylum. During the campaign, he vowed to deport those migrants he claimed were criminals, which many interpreted to mean he would only remove those who had committed violent crimes (which the U.S. has always done). But in his first term, Trump’s people considered anyone who entered the U.S. outside of immigration law to be a criminal, and this appears to be the definition his people are using now.

Daily deportation raids in which U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents arrested a few hundred people in sweeps began almost as soon as Trump took office. Josh Campbell, Andy Rose, and Nick Valencia of CNN reported that the federal government has flooded the media with video and photos of agents in tactical gear, their vests bearing the words “Police ICE” and “Homeland Security” as they lead individuals in handcuffs. The journalists report that this is not an accident: agents were told to have their agency names clearly displayed for the press.

The presence of television talk show host Dr. Phil (McGraw) with an ICE team in Chicago reinforces the sense that these arrests are designed for the cameras. So does yesterday’s report by Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti of the Washington Post that Trump is disappointed with the sweeps so far and has directed officials to ramp up arrests aggressively, providing quotas for ICE field offices. Today, new secretary of defense Pete Hegseth said the department will “shift” to “the defense of the territorial integrity of the United States of America at the southern border.”

Yesterday’s spat with Colombia’s president enabled Trump to declare victory, but Colombia has been the top U.S. ally in Latin America, a close partner in combating drug trafficking and managing migration. That relationship, which has taken years of careful cultivation, is now threatened.

Will Freeman of the Council on Foreign Relations, a think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy, posted: “I can’t think of many *worse* strategic blunders for the U.S., as it competes w/ China, than going nuclear against its oldest strategic ally & last big country in S. America where it enjoys a trade advantage…. Trump certainly expects that b[ecause] 1/3 of Colombian exports go to the U.S. Petro will be forced to back down. But Petro seems to welcome the fight & has already signaled wishes to deepen ties w/ China. Colombia will lose partnership on security it badly needs. Only China stands to gain from this.”

Indeed, China’s ambassador to Colombia promptly noted that “we are at the best moment of our diplomatic relations between China and Colombia, which are now 45 years old.”

Meanwhile, according to former ambassador Luis G. Moreno, the Trump administration has shut down 2,100 courses in the premier training facility for State Department foreign service officers, ostensibly because they are too associated with diversity, equity, and inclusion. Moreno adds: “Dismantling of a professional diplomatic corps is underway.”


https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/january-27-2025


So Trump did nothing but needlessly humiliate Colombian migrants that Biden had already arrested and readied for repatriation to Colombia. Instead of using a $100,000 commercial charter flight like Biden had been using, Trump spent $800,000 on a military transport plane flight to take them. And in humiliating our key South American ally, Trump pushed Colombia into the arms of China.



KatyBR

(190 posts)
17. Columbia HAD been accepting flights-it was about the use of military planes and feet shackles
Tue Jan 28, 2025, 08:44 AM
Tuesday

Trump knew that using military planes (more expensive by the way) and dropping Columbia citizens off in feet shackles would piss off the Columbia president. And when Trump threatened 25% tariffs, Columbia President said "we'll tariff your products at 50%". There was no backing down except by Trump, who went back to using commercial flights, just like Biden had. And who benefitted overall from Trump. CHINA!

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