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BumRushDaShow

(146,608 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:19 AM Jan 29

Johnson floats possibility of working with Democrats on debt ceiling

Source: The Hill

01/28/25 6:32 PM ET


DORAL, Fla. — Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) in a Tuesday interview with The Hill’s Emily Brooks floated the possibility of working with Democrats to raise the debt ceiling instead of including it in the GOP’s reconciliation package, which Republicans hope to pass in a party-line vote.

“No final decision yet, but part of the decision matrix is that we’re looking at the pros and cons of those various angles,” Johnson said when asked if he has decided how to handle the thorny issue. “I was originally thinking that we would include it in the reconciliation process, because that’s just a partisan exercise that doesn’t require Democrat votes.”

The conversation — which took place at Trump National Doral, where House GOP lawmakers are gathering for their annual retreat — came as House Republicans are staring down a high-stakes stretch of legislating, including advancing President Trump’s wish list of policies, funding the government by next month’s deadline and raising the debt limit this summer to avoid an economic default, all with the slimmest of majorities.

Johnson shifted from his initial plan of including the debt hike in the GOP’s reconciliation package because Senate Republicans didn’t think it would be possible to raise the debt ceiling on a GOP-only vote.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5112026-speaker-johnson-debt-ceiling-debate/

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Johnson floats possibility of working with Democrats on debt ceiling (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 29 OP
Good, this is what happens when Dems start to play hardball. Think. Again. Jan 29 #1
No, it's what happens when Republicans can't get the votes iemanja Jan 29 #24
That's exactly what I meant, Dems starting to play hardball instead voting "yes" on anything. Think. Again. Jan 29 #31
Democrats must extract massive concessions. Bloody his fukn nose! OrlandoDem2 Jan 29 #2
His idea for working with the Democrats probably involves stabbing them in the back. cstanleytech Jan 29 #3
Yes, setting them up in some way. Irish_Dem Jan 29 #4
It's all the Dems fault for not being willing to work with me! They're playing politics with your lives! SomewhereInTheMiddle Jan 29 #5
Only if Dems allow themselves to be stabbed in the back Bengus81 Jan 29 #8
I hope Democrats don't bail out Republicans again, let them destroy themselves. dem4decades Jan 29 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 29 #7
He's lying. AverageOldGuy Jan 29 #9
He's a Republican dhol82 Jan 29 #26
I hope they say no. nt Gore1FL Jan 29 #10
Hakeem Jeffries better have a media strategy for his demands Prairie Gates Jan 29 #11
"the possibility of working with Democrats".....cute! Isn't that his fricking job? What a waste of a party. Firestorm49 Jan 29 #12
Johnson can go fuck himself Ray Bruns Jan 29 #13
Oh Hell no SARose Jan 29 #14
F*ck him and the horse he rode in on. NotHardly Jan 29 #15
Johnson needs Democrats on debt ceiling HereForTheParty Jan 29 #16
They need to eat this debt ceiling. Even 1 Dem will make for a 'Dems vote to raise ceiling' headline Scalded Nun Jan 29 #17
now he has to samsingh Jan 29 #18
Rethugs' "working with" usually means "our way or else..." House Dems have no incentive to "fix" Johnson's problems. ancianita Jan 29 #19
Absolutely not!!! Bird Lady Jan 29 #20
If he's sincere, his caucus will probably oust him. DickKessler Jan 29 #21
Couple tax increases on billionaires Zorro Jan 29 #22
Who wants to bet he'll pull the rug out? sakabatou Jan 29 #23
People need to understand this is not an overture to Democrats iemanja Jan 29 #25
It's a trick JustAnotherGen Jan 29 #27
He's a floater alright, Klarkashton Jan 29 #28
Is that MAGA Mike's Trump-stumbled-out-of-the-gate move? bucolic_frolic Jan 29 #29
You have a majority. Right, Mike? But you don't want the credit for a debt hike? Norrrm Jan 29 #30
No Nasruddin Jan 29 #32

iemanja

(55,404 posts)
24. No, it's what happens when Republicans can't get the votes
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jan 29

From the start he's needed Democratic votes to raise or eliminate the debt ceiling because his deficit hawks won't go along with it. This is bullshit. Democrats need to stand firm and refuse to vote for it.

Think. Again.

(21,197 posts)
31. That's exactly what I meant, Dems starting to play hardball instead voting "yes" on anything.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jan 29
5. It's all the Dems fault for not being willing to work with me! They're playing politics with your lives!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:25 AM
Jan 29

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:29 AM - Edit history (1)

Instant scapegoat. All he has to do is mention the possibility and he has us, in some people's eyes. And there's not much we can do to avoid the smear.

If we cooperate, we are weak and have no principles. If we don't, we are obstructionist and value party over people.

Ignore it and play our game. What is best for the people of the US? How can we use this to fight Trump's dictatorial moves?

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Firestorm49

(4,273 posts)
12. "the possibility of working with Democrats".....cute! Isn't that his fricking job? What a waste of a party.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:02 AM
Jan 29

SARose

(1,105 posts)
14. Oh Hell no
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:28 AM
Jan 29

Let them sink their own ship.

After yesterday, take McConnell’s playbook and run with it.

See ya in 2026.

HereForTheParty

(563 posts)
16. Johnson needs Democrats on debt ceiling
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:45 AM
Jan 29

is a better headline.

I'd hope for a very hard bargain but I'm not holding my breath.

Scalded Nun

(1,349 posts)
17. They need to eat this debt ceiling. Even 1 Dem will make for a 'Dems vote to raise ceiling' headline
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:03 AM
Jan 29

Everything bad resulting from raising that ceiling needs to be solely hung around the GOP's collective neck.

Just like everything bad going on now. The pain, chaos, etc., needs to be broadcast daily along with the reason why the country is going through it. The monsters need daily exposure.

ancianita

(39,425 posts)
19. Rethugs' "working with" usually means "our way or else..." House Dems have no incentive to "fix" Johnson's problems.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 05:03 PM
Jan 29

He'll never give them anything but what TCF wants. So no point in working TCF's middleman.

Bird Lady

(1,974 posts)
20. Absolutely not!!!
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 06:08 PM
Jan 29

Don't bail them out again! Let them eat their bs and show the people how they can't do the jobs they are so worried about keeping.

iemanja

(55,404 posts)
25. People need to understand this is not an overture to Democrats
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jan 29

Johnson is only saying he'll work with Democrats because he doesn't have the votes in the GOP caucus. They can't raise or eliminate the debt ceiling without Democrats. The Ds need to say no because this is what Trump needs for his billionaire tax giveaway.

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