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Eugene

(65,199 posts)
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 05:51 AM Mar 19

Trump signs order to shift disaster preparations from FEMA to states, local governments

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, March 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order that seeks to shift responsibility for disaster preparations to state and local governments, deepening his drive to overhaul the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

The order, first previewed by the White House on March 10, calls for a review of all infrastructure, continuity, and preparedness and response policies to update and simplify federal approaches.

It said "common sense" investments by state and local governments to address risks ranging from wildfires to hurricanes and cyber attacks would enhance national security, but did not detail what they were or how they would be funded.

"Preparedness is most effectively owned and managed at the state, local, and even individual levels, supported by a competent, accessible, and efficient federal government," the order said. "When states are empowered to make smart infrastructure choices, taxpayers benefit."

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By Andrea Shalal
March 18, 2025 10:03 PM EDT Updated 8 hours ago

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-signs-order-shift-disaster-preparations-fema-states-local-governments-2025-03-19/



Alternate link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-order-shift-disaster-004554167.html
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Trump signs order to shift disaster preparations from FEMA to states, local governments (Original Post) Eugene Mar 19 OP
YOYO Government - You're On Your Own. nt Xipe Totec Mar 19 #1
So when disparities among blue/red state disaster preparedness funding emerges... EarthFirst Mar 19 #2
Well atreides1 Mar 19 #3
There were Rebl2 Mar 19 #18
No kidding DENVERPOPS Mar 19 #29
unintended consquences azureblue Mar 19 #37
That's what I was thinking.. Rich states now no longer have to pay to rebuild/aid poorer states?? mitch96 Mar 19 #23
Then maybe they'll vote differently. Scrivener7 Mar 19 #31
Is it time for the collective to escrow their federal taxes yet? PuraVidaDreamin Mar 19 #4
What are we even paying federal taxes for? Falconry Mar 19 #22
Trumps salary and golf trips Tree Lady Mar 19 #39
It's common sense? lonely bird Mar 19 #5
Florida is one of the states with no income tax, am I right? FakeNoose Mar 19 #17
The Uber Rich Republicans and Oligarchs DENVERPOPS Mar 19 #33
Fucking idiot, doesn't he realize he ives on the FL coast? lark Mar 19 #6
What if the major disaster so severely devastates the locality Tanuki Mar 19 #7
What happens if the entire State is devastated like say Florida with a major hurricane? cstanleytech Mar 19 #8
Thoughts and prayers Topomi Mar 19 #20
If there's no need for a federal, all states agency, then why should states continue to obey TSF and his band of merry sinkingfeeling Mar 19 #9
Because 50 smaller far less-connected bureaucracies are way more efficient than one.... /s Ol Janx Spirit Mar 19 #10
So tariffs and budget cuts just go in his pocket Blue Dotty Mar 19 #11
By that logic, why have a military? newdeal2 Mar 19 #12
Yep, here we go. Sad part is bluestarone Mar 19 #13
FEMA bromeando Mar 19 #14
I thought jury duty was onerous. bluedigger Mar 19 #15
One big hurricane in Texas or Florida will fuck this shit up, big-time. Paladin Mar 19 #16
He probably only sees this as punching Calif. Bayard Mar 19 #19
Oh the states, red states included, are going to love that! Unbudgeted fiscal obligations very time a hurricane, Martin68 Mar 19 #21
AKA as the "make state taxes increase to obscene levels law." Vinca Mar 19 #24
This will hurt the leeching red bumpkin states Mysterian Mar 19 #25
Sucks to live in a red State. Bluestocking Mar 19 #26
Yes DENVERPOPS Mar 19 #35
But he'll keep the money C_U_L8R Mar 19 #27
GOP's way of dodging responsibility the climate chaos they have caused BoRaGard Mar 19 #28
Ok, hurricanes you heard the ass... MiHale Mar 19 #30
Then Trump DENVERPOPS Mar 19 #34
Homeowners insurance doesn't even cover no_hypocrisy Mar 19 #32
The best part of this is that all those Trumpers PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 19 #36
Claw backs GenThePerservering Mar 19 #38
I feel sorry for the red state Dems, but fuck the rest. You voted for this shit. OverBurn Mar 19 #40
At this stage BlueKota Mar 19 #41
What could possibly go wrong? louis-t Mar 19 #42
States in paths of hurricanes and tornadoes: But we don't have enough money by ourselves! sakabatou Mar 19 #43
The states don't have the money mdbl Mar 19 #44
Smart infrastructure choices include factoring in climate change predictions NickB79 Mar 19 #45

EarthFirst

(3,668 posts)
2. So when disparities among blue/red state disaster preparedness funding emerges...
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 06:43 AM
Mar 19

…then what?

atreides1

(16,658 posts)
3. Well
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 07:19 AM
Mar 19

Remember, it was those same Red states that voted to hurt their fellow Americans, and now they're going to be fucked, hard!!!

While I feel for those who didn't vote for this car wreck, I have nothing for the ones who did!

Rebl2

(16,404 posts)
18. There were
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:46 AM
Mar 19

tornadoes in my state of MO last weekend and our republican governor said he planned on contacting the federal government for help. I thought to myself, good luck with that governor because you likely won’t get help.

DENVERPOPS

(12,341 posts)
29. No kidding
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 01:47 PM
Mar 19

the incredible number of Red States are yet to realize what is coming......The TrumpHumping voters are soon to realize that they have done their job by voting Trump in again, and will be kicked in the gutter, and under the bus, as they have guaranteed that they are no longer needed. Without Federal help, they are screwed more than us when it comes to FEMA, etc. They already take far more from the Feds than they contribute.......

azureblue

(2,432 posts)
37. unintended consquences
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 02:50 PM
Mar 19

Blue states have been supporting failed red states for decades. This will force red states to clean up their finances. AND, the people in those states that vote for Repubs will FINALLY get to see the results of their votes. Leopards, faces, etc. When there is no relief money, the people will blame their governor who will be forced to blame Trump.

mitch96

(15,226 posts)
23. That's what I was thinking.. Rich states now no longer have to pay to rebuild/aid poorer states??
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 12:30 PM
Mar 19

That's gonna go over like a lead balloon.
m

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,300 posts)
4. Is it time for the collective to escrow their federal taxes yet?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 07:44 AM
Mar 19

Asking for the thousands of blue states who will need
help after natural disasters.

Falconry

(20 posts)
22. What are we even paying federal taxes for?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 12:12 PM
Mar 19

If everything is becoming the responsibility of the tates, I would assume that means the states now get to keep all the taxes normally paid to the Feds, no?
Just asking for a friend.

lonely bird

(2,329 posts)
5. It's common sense?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 08:50 AM
Mar 19

First, there is no such thing.

Second, if there was Trump wouldn’t have any.

Third, states with no income tax? Expect a VAT and increased state sales tax and fees for every damn thing.

And it still won’t be enough.

When the next massive hurricane hits the gulf of MEXICO the insurance companies will pull out of almost the entirety of the former Confederacy.

Storm. The. Headquarters.

FakeNoose

(37,474 posts)
17. Florida is one of the states with no income tax, am I right?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:39 AM
Mar 19

And yet Florida has been having one disaster after another ... mainly related to hurricanes. But they've also got the problems with sinkholes, disappearing groundwater, and buildings collapsing. I don't have any numbers handy but I'm willing to bet that Florida gets more FEMA funds in one year than Pennsylvania or New York see in 5 or 10 years.

Also the California brush fires were hugely expensive because so many homes and high-priced buildings were destroyed. As wealthy as California is, there's no state that can cover costs like that on short notice. No state can "budget" for disasters until they've already happened.

DENVERPOPS

(12,341 posts)
33. The Uber Rich Republicans and Oligarchs
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 02:06 PM
Mar 19

have long wanted a VAT tax and to have the U.S. do away with the IRS...........

You are correct that the VAT tax is next, except a NATIONAL VAT tax.

They want it first of all to ABOLISH the IRS.
Secondly it is an extremely regressive tax with most of it coming from the middle and lower classes.......
AND, most important, ALL of their MAJOR costs for tax accountants and lawyers they were forced to employ go bye-bye, a massive savings for them.............

Many civilized European nations have the VAT tax, but use the money to fund free Medical and Free Education thru College, as well as many other taxpayer benefits...... rest assured when they institute the VAT tax here, we will receive absolutely none of those benefits.

lark

(25,053 posts)
6. Fucking idiot, doesn't he realize he ives on the FL coast?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 08:52 AM
Mar 19

This will kill states that border the Gulf of Mexico and the southern states that border the Atlantic. FL gets a double dose with both coasts exposed to these harms. Now there will be no tracking, WTF?? I've said it a million times and believe it with all my heart - he's actively trying to kill off the working/poor classes so the rich can steal our SS $ - which is substantial en masse.

Tanuki

(15,893 posts)
7. What if the major disaster so severely devastates the locality
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 09:11 AM
Mar 19

that it wipes out their emergency processing center and other resources? This is incredibly short-sighted and nonsensical.

cstanleytech

(27,620 posts)
8. What happens if the entire State is devastated like say Florida with a major hurricane?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 09:15 AM
Mar 19

I guess Trump can pray for a divine miracle then to receive aid promptly.

sinkingfeeling

(55,249 posts)
9. If there's no need for a federal, all states agency, then why should states continue to obey TSF and his band of merry
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 09:16 AM
Mar 19

men?

Ol Janx Spirit

(239 posts)
10. Because 50 smaller far less-connected bureaucracies are way more efficient than one.... /s
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 09:26 AM
Mar 19

But this will not save the government any money. Even red states will demand they get their funding dollars that will now just have little or no oversight. Some will raid those funds to pay for other shortfalls and just demand more from Washington knowing that it looks really bad to deny aid to people that just went through a natural disaster. What the "government efficiency" folks seem to forget is that many of these federal agencies were partially established to make sure that federal dollars were not wasted or repurposed by the states in the specific areas they oversee. These shortsighted new policies are actually the opposite of an efficient way to distribute tax dollars IMO.

Blue Dotty

(121 posts)
11. So tariffs and budget cuts just go in his pocket
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 09:47 AM
Mar 19

Because with all the federal agency cuts and services discontinued, our state tax rates will go up to provide for services the feds used to. This was just a way to eliminate any type of regulations, to bail out muskrat, and his other oligarch billionaires.

bluestarone

(19,831 posts)
13. Yep, here we go. Sad part is
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:07 AM
Mar 19

It will be the Democrats that file a lawsuit to save the fucking rethuglicons that live in the southern states. ALWAYS a Democrat has to do the saving.

bluedigger

(17,229 posts)
15. I thought jury duty was onerous.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 10:40 AM
Mar 19

I can't wait until the county calls me out for mandatory forest raking details.

Paladin

(30,535 posts)
16. One big hurricane in Texas or Florida will fuck this shit up, big-time.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:27 AM
Mar 19

Not a matter of "whether," just "when."

Bayard

(25,265 posts)
19. He probably only sees this as punching Calif.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 11:51 AM
Mar 19

Doesn't matter how many MAGAts it hurts. Revenge is the word.

Martin68

(25,834 posts)
21. Oh the states, red states included, are going to love that! Unbudgeted fiscal obligations very time a hurricane,
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 12:09 PM
Mar 19

tornado, or flood occurs. Congress funded FEMA. Who's going to help states pay for disaster recovery?

Mysterian

(5,626 posts)
25. This will hurt the leeching red bumpkin states
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 01:35 PM
Mar 19

more than the wealthy blue states. Good move, god-emperor trump!

DENVERPOPS

(12,341 posts)
35. Yes
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 02:14 PM
Mar 19

I was gonna say, notice how Mother Nature is mostly focusing on the ton of Red States for her Natural Disasters......
She is really getting super pissed at those that are causing damage to HER planet earth, and seeking revenge......

C_U_L8R

(47,369 posts)
27. But he'll keep the money
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 01:41 PM
Mar 19

While the middle class keeps paying taxes and billionaires get cuts. What a shithead.

MiHale

(11,715 posts)
30. Ok, hurricanes you heard the ass...
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 01:48 PM
Mar 19

Time to wipe out Mar-A-Lago…scour it off the face of the earth, let Florida pay for it.

Surgical hit, please.

DENVERPOPS

(12,341 posts)
34. Then Trump
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 02:11 PM
Mar 19

will rebuild Mar-a-Lago with just a tiny portion of money he has grifted these past 8+ years. Something akin to the Taj Mahal............
Or use the entire budget of FEMA, just for him, before abandoning FEMA.......

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,888 posts)
36. The best part of this is that all those Trumpers
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 02:44 PM
Mar 19

in places like Florida and Texas will be quite pleased with this. Because before FEMA the individual states did such a fabulous job of these things.

OverBurn

(1,221 posts)
40. I feel sorry for the red state Dems, but fuck the rest. You voted for this shit.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:05 PM
Mar 19

I live in a red state, Indiana. Maybe not as completely red as Mississippi or some others, but full of a lot of Trump loving red assholes.

BlueKota

(4,249 posts)
41. At this stage
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 05:06 PM
Mar 19

I'd rather New York State officials be in charge of any natural disasters that happen here than any of the disastrous officials he appoints, anyway.

sakabatou

(44,783 posts)
43. States in paths of hurricanes and tornadoes: But we don't have enough money by ourselves!
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 05:14 PM
Mar 19

Felon47: Too bad, so sad. Fuck you.

NickB79

(19,920 posts)
45. Smart infrastructure choices include factoring in climate change predictions
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 05:23 PM
Mar 19

But now it's verboten to discuss the C-word in Trumpland.

Good luck Red States. You're fucked.

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