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ificandream

(11,098 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:04 PM Saturday

Kamala Harris Left 'Speechless' by Trump's Shocking Victory

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Source: The Daily Beast

By Will Neal
Updated Apr. 5 2025 2:46PM EDT
Published Apr. 5 2025 11:23AM EDT

The author of a new book says former Vice President Kamala Harris was so taken aback by President Donald Trump's shocking win in November that she could barely speak. As the reality of her defeat set in, Harris repeatedly asked her aides "if they'd actually lost" and whether "they were prepared to do a recount."

Harris's running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, "had the same exact reaction" as he watched from his room at D.C.'s Mayflower Hotel, Amie Parnes, a senior correspondent for The Hill, told TMZ on Friday. "They really thought they were going to win," Parnes said. Parnes--whose book on the matchup, "Fight," was released this week--said Harris was left "without words" at her home in Washington, D.C., when the results came in November 5.

Co-authored with NBC journalist Jonathan Allen, Parnes's book reveals Harris was disappointed by a perceived lack of support from former President Barack Obama and ex-Speaker Nancy Pelosi. "She was really looking for [Obama's] approval this time around, and was really kinda underwhelmed by his support in the very end," Parnes said. "She was really upset by the fact he took several days to get behind her."

"There were some very hurt feelings on her part," Parnes added, noting that both she and her co-author "greatly believe" the Harris-Walz campaign could have sailed to victory had there not been "so many missteps along the way."



Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-left-speechless-by-trumps-shocking-victory/



She wasn't the only one who thought she was going to win. With her positiveness and his corruption, it would have seemed natural she would win.

But what missteps? It's hard to win when the other side cheats and buys votes.
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Kamala Harris Left 'Speechless' by Trump's Shocking Victory (Original Post) ificandream Saturday OP
are these direct quotes from Harris or just book peddler garbage made up crap nt msongs Saturday #1
I couldn't tell you. It was what was in the story on the DB site. ificandream Saturday #3
I'm sure there are a lot of raw feelings. Raven123 Saturday #2
It was always going to be an uphill battle. yourout Saturday #4
Johnathan Allen and Amie Parnes recycle this crap every four years lapucelle Saturday #5
thanks for that stillcool Saturday #6
They do seem to have a lock on that, don't they? :) ificandream Saturday #15
They sure do Lapucelle. I wouldn't dignify them as "journalists. They are a bunch of hacks. JohnSJ Sunday #19
Why the hell wasn't there even one recount? All this money flooded into their campaigns Tumbulu Saturday #7
Even just a couple states ... Blue_playwright Saturday #13
But her campaign spent all that money and then some, from what has been reported. LisaL Saturday #14
In my lifetime, only one losing candidate has ever demanded a recount where the results were greater than 0.1% Polybius Sunday #16
I felt the same way. greatauntoftriplets Saturday #8
Two respected Journalists DENVERPOPS Saturday #10
This is a load of Trump ass-kissing bullshit Prairie Gates Saturday #9
+100,000,000 oasis Saturday #11
How does this kiss Trump's ass? iemanja Monday #21
Saw the book online and read the sample provided because the authors weren't familiar. Ugh. betsuni Monday #23
As far as I can tell, this is nonsense. LisaL Saturday #12
Parnes and Allen are the same hacks that wrote the anti-Hillary book, and their arrogance and hyperbole "why she lost" JohnSJ Sunday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ Sunday #18
What misteps? iemanja Monday #20
Her "misstep" was being a woman of color TexasBushwhacker Monday #22
Locking. Lasher Tuesday #24

msongs

(71,035 posts)
1. are these direct quotes from Harris or just book peddler garbage made up crap nt
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:07 PM
Saturday

ificandream

(11,098 posts)
3. I couldn't tell you. It was what was in the story on the DB site.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:12 PM
Saturday

I'd assume they are direct quotes given they have quote marks around them.

Raven123

(6,545 posts)
2. I'm sure there are a lot of raw feelings.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:07 PM
Saturday

The very short election calendar couldn’t have helped

yourout

(8,359 posts)
4. It was always going to be an uphill battle.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:13 PM
Saturday

You might be able to overcome misogyny or racism but to overcome both was going to be very difficult.

You would like to hope that now that we're in the 21st century it wouldn't be that way but it is.

lapucelle

(19,970 posts)
5. Johnathan Allen and Amie Parnes recycle this crap every four years
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:25 PM
Saturday

stillcool

(33,552 posts)
6. thanks for that
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:33 PM
Saturday

I always need to be reminded.

ificandream

(11,098 posts)
15. They do seem to have a lock on that, don't they? :)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:44 PM
Saturday

JohnSJ

(98,356 posts)
19. They sure do Lapucelle. I wouldn't dignify them as "journalists. They are a bunch of hacks.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:05 AM
Sunday

Tumbulu

(6,527 posts)
7. Why the hell wasn't there even one recount? All this money flooded into their campaigns
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:46 PM
Saturday

and they could not even fight one place? Demand one recount? I dont care if they thought it was performative. Be performative- show some spine. People needed that. They still do.

Thank you Corey Booker, thank you AOC and the other fiesty younger members of Congress.

This is why D's lose again and again, they just do not fight. I was convinced that Kamala/Walz were going to win. I thought they were fighters. But then zip- no recounts, nothing.

I remain utterly pissed off because I do not put it past Mump to have done something untoward.

Blue_playwright

(1,597 posts)
13. Even just a couple states ...
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:32 PM
Saturday

I feel the campaigns 107 days were damn flawless. She had millions on the ground, raised a billion bucks in no time - the energy was nuts while trumps rallies were half empty.

After the shock wore off, I realized there was zero recounts or reviews. That was unacceptable.

LisaL

(47,176 posts)
14. But her campaign spent all that money and then some, from what has been reported.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:36 PM
Saturday

Big rallies are still only a small part of the voters, so they don't necessarily translate into victory. In this case, it appears all that energy was just smoke and mirrors.

Polybius

(19,679 posts)
16. In my lifetime, only one losing candidate has ever demanded a recount where the results were greater than 0.1%
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 01:07 AM
Sunday

That was Trump in 2020, with many states that he lost.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,454 posts)
8. I felt the same way.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:57 PM
Saturday

You'll never convince me that Eloon didn't manipulate the vote.

DENVERPOPS

(11,661 posts)
10. Two respected Journalists
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:21 PM
Saturday

have figured it out.....How the Republicans corrupted the voting in the Swing States, but the dems don't want to hear it........Any more than they did in 2000, 2004, 2016 or for that matter way back in 1980.........

Either that, or they didn't want a civil war to start the day after the election.......if they protested the votes in the swing states....

Prairie Gates

(4,755 posts)
9. This is a load of Trump ass-kissing bullshit
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:59 PM
Saturday

Allen and Parnes are GOP bozos.

oasis

(52,190 posts)
11. +100,000,000
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:26 PM
Saturday

iemanja

(55,795 posts)
21. How does this kiss Trump's ass?
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 02:02 AM
Monday

I don’t see it.

betsuni

(27,718 posts)
23. Saw the book online and read the sample provided because the authors weren't familiar. Ugh.
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 03:34 AM
Monday

First sentence clued me in, Nancy Pelosi in her "seven-figure Georgetown condo" with a fabulous view. Her freezer of (no doubt very fancy elite expensive) chocolate ice cream, "posh Washington crash pad."

GARBAGE from the "Shattered" authors. That's a shame, probably does have interesting things but can't trust biased liars.

LisaL

(47,176 posts)
12. As far as I can tell, this is nonsense.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:30 PM
Saturday

The campaign did their own polls, and they weren't showing her being ahead, from what has been reported. The loss wouldn't have come as a shock.

JohnSJ

(98,356 posts)
17. Parnes and Allen are the same hacks that wrote the anti-Hillary book, and their arrogance and hyperbole "why she lost"
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 02:02 AM
Sunday

is so full of s**t it is disgusting, and I sure wouldn't dignify them with the word "journalist".

Their book isn't worth the paper it is written on, and I wouldn't even use it for bird cage liner.

Response to ificandream (Original post)

iemanja

(55,795 posts)
20. What misteps?
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 02:01 AM
Monday

Harris has so little time to mount a campaign. That was a major handicap.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,873 posts)
22. Her "misstep" was being a woman of color
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 03:28 AM
Monday

I'm still mad as hell that Biden was forced to drop out, but she did the best she could with such a brief campaign.

Lasher

(28,756 posts)
24. Locking.
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 03:53 PM
Tuesday

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