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highplainsdem

(59,633 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:10 PM May 2025

DHS asks for 20,000 National Guard troops to assist in deportations

Source: NPR

The Department of Homeland Security is asking the Pentagon to provide some 20,000 National Guard forces to assist in the removal of migrants in the United States without legal status.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the plan who was not authorized to talk tells NPR that military lawyers are reviewing the request from DHS. The request was first reported by The New York Times.

Under the proposal, state governors would be asked for volunteers among their Guard forces to take part in the removals. There's no word on when this would happen, or when the call would go out for volunteers.

There's also no sense at this point what role the Guard troops would play — whether they would provide just transportation or security, or if they would detain migrants or take part in arrests. In February, Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott gave Texas Guard members the authority to make immigration arrests. This would be the first time Guard troops at the national level have been asked to assist in deportations. President Trump last week ordered DHS to increase its deportation force by 20,000 officers. Using Guard forces would be the quickest way to make that happen.

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Read more: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5399656/national-guard-immigration

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DHS asks for 20,000 National Guard troops to assist in deportations (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2025 OP
Guard members ordered to control a looked-down-upon throng of people. John1956PA May 2025 #1
Four dead in Ohio Walleye May 2025 #4
What they want is for the deport to be handled as roughly and cruelly as possible Walleye May 2025 #2
How much is Traildogbob May 2025 #3
Does anyone know: can a governor refuse a request for troops? If the Pres federalizes troops, does that mean the Feds LauraInLA May 2025 #5
I'm betting Trump thinks the tab will be on the states MadameButterfly May 2025 #20
Governors cannot refuse if its a Title 10 deployment DetroitLegalBeagle May 2025 #26
Noem needs to be told to kacekwl May 2025 #6
I say, you shut off FEMA and medicaid, to states you get bluestarone May 2025 #7
If states are paying for disaster recovery and medical care MadameButterfly May 2025 #21
Ahh more jobs will be available, usually well paying jobs. LiberalArkie May 2025 #8
Volunteers? Iamscrewed May 2025 #9
I missed the implication of "volunteers" MadameButterfly May 2025 #22
Volunteers Iamscrewed May 2025 #29
Yes I read the article. It doesn't specify MadameButterfly May 2025 #31
No Cirsium May 2025 #10
The slippery slope... purr-rat beauty May 2025 #11
Fuckin' Nazis. 🖕 Magoo48 May 2025 #12
Oh hell, NO!!! Delmette2.0 May 2025 #13
8,000 non-citizens join US military each year Seinan Sensei May 2025 #14
I foresee recruitment issues with the National Guard perdita9 May 2025 #15
So you don't think there are 20,000 indecent people in the Guard? malthaussen May 2025 #19
There will be 20,000 willing to do it MadameButterfly May 2025 #23
I expect California's National Guard will be needed to fight fires after these travelingthrulife May 2025 #16
Yeah but the immigrants are an emergency MadameButterfly May 2025 #24
They can hardly even find anyone to deport legally. This is just a huge waste of money. travelingthrulife May 2025 #17
They've been scraping the bottom of the barrel MadameButterfly May 2025 #25
Volunteers, eh? Good way to find out who the bigots are and recruit them for more mayhem. malthaussen May 2025 #18
So a type of impressment JustAnotherGen May 2025 #27
This will cause problems for Guardsmen who didn't signup for ...... Bread and Circuses May 2025 #28
anything that gets military in the streets stillcool May 2025 #30

John1956PA

(4,734 posts)
1. Guard members ordered to control a looked-down-upon throng of people.
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:17 PM
May 2025

What could possibly go wrong?

Walleye

(43,698 posts)
2. What they want is for the deport to be handled as roughly and cruelly as possible
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:30 PM
May 2025

Then they can make videos and Maga can jack off to them

Traildogbob

(12,445 posts)
3. How much is
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:31 PM
May 2025

Rambo Barbie gonna spend for her little action movie photo ops and compensation job to make up for puppy killing thrills?

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
5. Does anyone know: can a governor refuse a request for troops? If the Pres federalizes troops, does that mean the Feds
Thu May 15, 2025, 04:35 PM
May 2025

have to pay for them?

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
20. I'm betting Trump thinks the tab will be on the states
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:49 PM
May 2025

but I expect it won't be.

If the states can/do say no I'm sure Trump has some revenge lined up.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,453 posts)
26. Governors cannot refuse if its a Title 10 deployment
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:06 PM
May 2025

Title 10 transfers authority over to the Feds. It also transfers the financial burden to the Feds as well.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
21. If states are paying for disaster recovery and medical care
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:51 PM
May 2025

who says they still have money for a national guard?

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
22. I missed the implication of "volunteers"
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:51 PM
May 2025

Does that mean willing to do it for pay, or willing to do it for free?

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
31. Yes I read the article. It doesn't specify
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:52 PM
May 2025

Whether they would get paid.
It's my understanding the soldiers in the National Guard get paid.

See below 2 different definitions of volunteer:

a person who voluntarily undertakes or expresses a willingness to undertake a service: such as. a. : one who enters into military service voluntarily

Volunteering is when someone spends unpaid time doing something to benefit others

Seinan Sensei

(1,324 posts)
14. 8,000 non-citizens join US military each year
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:31 AM
May 2025

Soooooo … noncitizens arresting noncitizens?

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48163#

Btw
In FY 2024, we naturalized more than 16,290 service members

perdita9

(1,320 posts)
15. I foresee recruitment issues with the National Guard
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:17 AM
May 2025

If Trump is going to turn them into the Gestapo, decent people won't sign up

malthaussen

(18,375 posts)
19. So you don't think there are 20,000 indecent people in the Guard?
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:59 AM
May 2025

I am of the contrary opinion.

-- Mal

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
23. There will be 20,000 willing to do it
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:54 PM
May 2025

But National Guards will be smaller overall
And we might not like the ones who sign up

travelingthrulife

(4,305 posts)
16. I expect California's National Guard will be needed to fight fires after these
Fri May 16, 2025, 09:08 AM
May 2025

monsters axed firefighting personnel.

travelingthrulife

(4,305 posts)
17. They can hardly even find anyone to deport legally. This is just a huge waste of money.
Fri May 16, 2025, 09:09 AM
May 2025

If we don't have FEMA anymore, National Guard will be needed at home state.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
25. They've been scraping the bottom of the barrel
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:57 PM
May 2025

in search of actual criminals. That is why they are deporting peaceful beloved long term members of communities and legal immigrants

malthaussen

(18,375 posts)
18. Volunteers, eh? Good way to find out who the bigots are and recruit them for more mayhem.
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:57 AM
May 2025

Sadly, I doubt they'd have much trouble finding 20,000 volunteers among the Guard.

-- Mal

JustAnotherGen

(37,476 posts)
27. So a type of impressment
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:15 PM
May 2025

Into the service of DHS in their fake war that SCOTUS just said they couldn't do?

So an intolerable act by a crazy despot? Hmmm . . .

Bread and Circuses

(1,494 posts)
28. This will cause problems for Guardsmen who didn't signup for ......
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:36 PM
May 2025

Inflicting violence on random people.

Wll they refuse?

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