Immigration Crackdown Creates Fault Lines Among Baptists
Source: New York Times
Dec. 21, 2025 Updated 4:20 p.m. ET
When federal agents descended on Louisiana this month to pursue their aggressive deportation campaign, a group of Roman Catholic priests privately brought the Eucharist to the homes of immigrants too worried to step outside. But Lewis Richerson, the pastor of Woodlawn Baptist Church in Baton Rouge, planned to take an opposite approach.
I would not knowingly extend communion to an illegal immigrant who is visiting our church, he said. That person would be in sin by being in this country illegally, and Christians should obey the law of the land. Instead, the main way he would minister to them would be to help them submit themselves to the authorities, he said. They should absolutely deport themselves.
Mr. Richersons church is part of the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, with about 12.7 million members. For years, the denomination has supported immigration reforms, especially given its extensive missionary work and theological commitments to helping the least of these, as Jesus says in the gospel of Matthew.
But while Catholic bishops this year have repeatedly rebuked the Trump administration over its deportation actions, Southern Baptists are contending with an increasingly loud contingent in their ranks that, like Mr. Richerson, supports the immigration crackdown. Even as many rank-and-file churches continue to support immigrant ministries, signs of fracture are emerging.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/21/us/southern-baptists-immigration-trump.html
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mwooldri
(10,785 posts)Plus he misses the point of communion.
Then again I don't think Baptists are big on the Eucharist anyway. Not like the RC folks, who would celebrate it daily if they could (IMO)
MotownPgh
(457 posts)We Roman Catholics can, and many do celebrate the eucharist every day. It is encouraged
mwooldri
(10,785 posts)Once upon a time I was in a Holiness church... Independent, no structure as such, except the pastor owned the church. Eucharist was celebrated rarely. Even allowed me, a lay "children's church teacher", to celebrate the Eucharist with saltine crackers and grape juice as part of "Children's Church"... That I got thrown into "leading". Poorly IMO. How a good ol' Church of England soul like me ended up there I don't know. I ended up with work that worked every Sunday, so no church activities possible. When the pastor took a political turn I drifted away. When she passed away and the successors seemed to turn hardline... I went low contact.
But to get back to the main topic ... It's through the grace of Jesus that we're even allowed to have Eucharist. Not even the preacher/priest/celebrant is free of sin enough in the eyes of God to be even worthy. And as part of the Communion service one confesses their sins and prays for forgiveness. So at least for that moment, the "illegal immigrant" who has broken the earthly law is supposed to have confessed to God their "sin" and thus should have received the okay to receive communion, unless the congregant feels God hasn't answered their prayer of forgiveness and doesn't go up. Anyway, this is my take on it.... I'm not clergy, I don't have a full certified religious education... Just my understanding of God and Jesus as I see them. And I may well be wrong.
IbogaProject
(5,573 posts)And communion is open to all baptised christians, with no qualification about "sins", that is usually covered in an earlier part of the service. Read the stories, sermon, confession of sin, then the communion rite.
NotHardly
(2,574 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,932 posts)Heres the updated version.
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It sure sounds like baptists. maybe that pastor needs a little exorcism?
ms liberty
(10,938 posts)They're real big on submission and obedience to the man in charge, whoever he may be.
travelingthrulife
(4,355 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(5,397 posts)as they in no way follow the teachings of Christ.
mountain grammy
(28,640 posts)and those who believe get it, those who don't don't. If you're a mass murderer who accepts Jesus at the end, you get heaven and eternal life.
That's from my Southern Baptist sister in law who has for decades begged us to accept Jesus so we can all be together for eternity.. she votes trump everytime she gets the chance.
Miguelito Loveless
(5,397 posts)I generally refer to them as "Christians", as their religion is a business, not a faith.
Bayard
(28,392 posts)The church of my youth. It figures.
Justice Phrall
(1 post)I would not knowingly extend everlasting salvation to an unrepentant sinner disguised as a spiritual leader of a church that supposedly has a shared faith in My command to love one's neighbor regardless of nationality," the Son of God told the New York Times, "I mean, it's right there in My Parable of the Good Samaritan, for My sake!"
"If we're being honest, I'm surprised Luke got anything I said right," the Lamb of God mused, "considering we never met and the poor guy had to fiddle all that info out of illiterate goat herders 70 years after that fucking dumpster fire in Gethsemane."
"But I digress," the the Lion of the tribe of Juda continued, "That person would be in sin by being a complete racist douchebag, and if I have anything to say about it, Christians should obey the word of the Bible."
Instead, the main way the Messiah would minister to the pastor would be to help him submit himself to the consequences, the Lord said. "He should absolutely deport himself to that Dad-awful CECOT mega-prison and let the Venezuelan deportees help him to correct his sinful ways. That oughta set him on the right path.
"I gotta tell you, all these assbutts trying to replace biblical theology with MAGA evangelical politics is really pissing the old man off," the Savior added, "and y'all know what happens when He gets snippy. It won't end well for them, I can tell you that much."
surfered
(11,186 posts)KS Toronado
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