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demmiblue

(39,428 posts)
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:01 AM Jan 13

Newsom Vows to Stop Proposed Billionaire Tax in California

Source: NYT

Gov. Gavin Newsom said he was working behind the scenes to block a proposed tax on billionaires’ wealth and was committed to defeating the measure if it reached the ballot.

Gov. Gavin Newsom vowed on Monday to stop a proposed wealth tax in California, saying that its mere introduction had already hurt the state by driving some billionaires to relocate and take their tax dollars with them.

Mr. Newsom, a Democrat, said in an interview with The New York Times that he had been relentlessly working behind the scenes against the proposal, and that he would fight the measure if it reached the November ballot.

“This will be defeated — there’s no question in my mind,” Mr. Newsom said.

“I’ll do what I have to do to protect the state,” he added.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/us/newsom-billionaire-tax-california.html



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Newsom Vows to Stop Proposed Billionaire Tax in California (Original Post) demmiblue Jan 13 OP
Talk about being on the wrong side of history - nt TBF Jan 13 #1
He needs to explain more, since it was his taxing the wealthy that balanced CA's budget, with even a surplus. Why is ancianita Jan 13 #2
Just when you think he's your guy, House of Roberts Jan 13 #3
Just because he's an expert-level troll when it comes to Trump shouldn't mean that... LudwigPastorius Jan 13 #36
Because the gods only know, the wealthy are too poor to pay taxes. n/t malthaussen Jan 13 #4
Billionaire taxes won't work well, what we need are corporate taxes and franchises should count as part of the company. cstanleytech Jan 13 #5
Why not both? Fiendish Thingy Jan 13 #11
Because they actually will flee the country because they can afford it easily if we did it more than likely. cstanleytech Jan 13 #23
If they are US citizens, fleeing the country won't protect them Fiendish Thingy Jan 13 #25
Yeah but they would probably do it Tina Turner did which is give up her citizenship. cstanleytech Jan 13 #32
Good. Let them flee. travelingthrulife Jan 13 #47
Would that be a bad thing? They're vampires. Scrivener7 Jan 13 #53
Even vampires can come in handy especially if your in the need of kindling on a cold winter day. cstanleytech Jan 14 #57
he needs to clearly say that if it is the reasoning JT45242 Jan 13 #34
True, he needs to be clear about the reason why. cstanleytech Jan 14 #58
Wow...well at least he is telling us now angrychair Jan 13 #6
This is very upsetting EuterpeThelo Jan 13 #7
who are his donors. let's start there. Javaman Jan 13 #8
Spoiled little billionaires Clouds Passing Jan 13 #9
A man of the people, amirite? Fiendish Thingy Jan 13 #10
We can't afford child care, health care and to put roof's over our heads and Mr. Mustard 2023 Jan 13 #12
This is the problem with some democrats right here Mr. Sparkle Jan 13 #13
More NOPE for Newsom. n/t CountMyVote4Reality Jan 13 #14
I don't think I will be supporting him in 2028 primary. grockri Jan 13 #15
I trust Gavin. As usual conservatives are trying to kneecap him flamingdem Jan 13 #16
Please explain. I'll keep an open mind on this, HOWEVER..... groundloop Jan 13 #19
Words in his mouth? RoseTrellis Jan 13 #22
Well, Karma13612 Jan 13 #17
Kelly should destroy Gav. Traildogbob Jan 13 #26
Instead of making a knee-jerk decision, he listened to the experts who work for him and made an informed decision Jose Garcia Jan 13 #18
What was that exactly angrychair Jan 13 #20
Economists employed by the state determined that the new tax would create a short-term increase revenue. Jose Garcia Jan 13 #38
I call BS angrychair Jan 13 #39
Newsome is not advocating cutting taxes for billionaires. Where did you get they idea that he was? Jose Garcia Jan 13 #40
Again angrychair Jan 13 #41
Billionaires are hoarders duckworth969 Jan 13 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author angrychair Jan 13 #21
that's typical Newsom Nigrum Cattus Jan 13 #24
I Wake Up This Morning And Find Newsom Wanting To Kill The Billionaire Tax & Warren Advising Tr**p On...... global1 Jan 13 #27
Warren was on Lawrence last night. Chemical Bill Jan 13 #54
But they have so much money still after they pay taxes? pwb Jan 13 #28
Wow, that's the line for me. Please don't run for president. Buddyzbuddy Jan 13 #29
Not so fast! He isn't the only star candidate we've got! My senator, Chris Murphy, could be a terrific candidate for us. CTyankee Jan 13 #37
Newsome is the only elimination at this point. Buddyzbuddy Jan 13 #48
I am convinced that if Chris Murphy gets a shot at this, he can be considered a better choice than Newsom. CTyankee Jan 13 #50
Goodbye Presidential bid orangecrush Jan 13 #30
Isn't the tax proposal 5%? RussBLib Jan 13 #31
I generally like him -- but he is on the wrong side of this one JT45242 Jan 13 #33
"Newsom Vows to Stop Proposed Billionaire Tax in California" LudwigPastorius Jan 13 #35
L O L RandiFan1290 Jan 13 #42
This billionaires tax is going to be on Deminpenn Jan 13 #43
I expect he is right, lots of folks would move to avoid a $50,000,000 tax bill (per billion) EX500rider Jan 13 #44
bad move dude travelingthrulife Jan 13 #45
Well, I sure as hell am going to vote for it. travelingthrulife Jan 13 #46
He needs billionaire money for '28. Sneederbunk Jan 13 #51
Voters can pass it over Newsom's head Old Testament Libera Jan 13 #52
I'm not sure that any pols (either side) realize that they are creating a generation of democratic socialists. nt Blasphemer Jan 14 #55
Contact him and demand he support the tax BoycottTwitter Jan 14 #56

ancianita

(43,153 posts)
2. He needs to explain more, since it was his taxing the wealthy that balanced CA's budget, with even a surplus. Why is
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:17 AM
Jan 13

this wealth tax so much worse?

California has the most billionaires of any U.S. state, with recent estimates placing the number around 190 to over 200, with figures varying slightly by source and date, but consistently showing California leading New York and Florida.

They're not ALL moving to TX, just a few.

So based on that population number, Newsom's arguments aren't solid and don't really hold up.

House of Roberts

(6,434 posts)
3. Just when you think he's your guy,
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:18 AM
Jan 13

he goes back to coddling the wealthy, and disqualifies himself.

LudwigPastorius

(14,354 posts)
36. Just because he's an expert-level troll when it comes to Trump shouldn't mean that...
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:41 PM
Jan 13

we forget that Newsom was also the guy who gave Steve Bannon, Michael Savage, Newt Gingrich, Dr. Phil, Sean Spicer, and Charlie Kirk a platform on his podcast so they could try to spread their bullshit and hate.

cstanleytech

(28,296 posts)
5. Billionaire taxes won't work well, what we need are corporate taxes and franchises should count as part of the company.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:20 AM
Jan 13

Fiendish Thingy

(22,411 posts)
11. Why not both?
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:03 AM
Jan 13

Then America could truly be great because it could afford all those needed social programs and enforcing all the regulations republicans have gutted.?

cstanleytech

(28,296 posts)
23. Because they actually will flee the country because they can afford it easily if we did it more than likely.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:11 PM
Jan 13

Corporations would have a harder time doing so but we would have to craft it as a retroactive law to prevent companies from trying to evade it by moving their corporate headquarters to another country.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,411 posts)
25. If they are US citizens, fleeing the country won't protect them
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:31 PM
Jan 13

The US is one of only two countries that taxes based on citizenship, not residency.

cstanleytech

(28,296 posts)
32. Yeah but they would probably do it Tina Turner did which is give up her citizenship.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:05 PM
Jan 13

However a corporation can't exactly give up its citizenship to escape paying taxes on profits it earns inside the United States.

cstanleytech

(28,296 posts)
57. Even vampires can come in handy especially if your in the need of kindling on a cold winter day.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:10 AM
Jan 14

JT45242

(3,907 posts)
34. he needs to clearly say that if it is the reasoning
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:15 PM
Jan 13

otherwise -- it makes him look like a puppet of the uber rich

angrychair

(11,854 posts)
6. Wow...well at least he is telling us now
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:20 AM
Jan 13

Who's side he is really on.

This is why Democrats can't have nice things because we do and say shit like this.

Now, I have been unequivocally clear that billionaires are the true enemies of the state and this is a hard red line for me.

Sorry, this guy should NOT be president in my opinion.
(Yes, if he somehow ends up as the nominee I will vote for him but only because the alternative is much worse but that should not be the standard we are forced into)

Now can we please have a more progressive candidate and stop courting these billionaire sycophants?

EuterpeThelo

(253 posts)
7. This is very upsetting
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:47 AM
Jan 13

On balance, I feel Gavin Newsom has been one of the best governors our state has had in my lifetime.

That said, he sometimes gives me SERIOUS pause and I really hope he is NOT our 2028 nominee for prez because, TBH, I don't think he can win nationally. Many people outside the state think he's a flaming "libt@rd" and blame him for not being able to fix things that pre-date his term (like homelessness or the failed bullet train). At the same time, many of us here are troubled by some of his less-than-progressive takes on certain things.

I love the fire he brings against the current regime (proving that the "when they go low..." ship sailed long ago), but I don't appreciate his stance on trans people or his platforming of extremists on his podcast.

HOW does not making billionaires pay their fair share help anyone but the 1%????

Fiendish Thingy

(22,411 posts)
10. A man of the people, amirite?
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:01 AM
Jan 13

As I said before, just because he can troll Trump with finesse and glee (and those posts are likely not written by Newsom himself), doesn’t make him the best choice for the Dems 2028 nominee.

If Dems are to restore democracy, repair the damage from the Trump era, and govern effectively, besides expanding the court, it’s going to require a ton of cash, and somebody is going to have to pay for it.

IMO, that somebody should be the billionaires who twice got sweet juicy tax cuts during both Trump administrations. Otherwise it’s going to be “austerity budgets” for a generation.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(355 posts)
12. We can't afford child care, health care and to put roof's over our heads and
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:09 AM
Jan 13

Gavin Newsome doesn't want to tax billionaires. I've read many warning about Newsome and imo this proves their warnings about him were correct.

Mr. Sparkle

(3,646 posts)
13. This is the problem with some democrats right here
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:11 AM
Jan 13

They listen to the donors more than the people, the base. smh

grockri

(73 posts)
15. I don't think I will be supporting him in 2028 primary.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:14 AM
Jan 13

I don't think he is that bad. But this is bullshit. I wll support anyone but him. Talks tough and rolls over for Billionaires.

flamingdem

(40,826 posts)
16. I trust Gavin. As usual conservatives are trying to kneecap him
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:16 AM
Jan 13

before the primaries.

No one on DU can see through this?

groundloop

(13,624 posts)
19. Please explain. I'll keep an open mind on this, HOWEVER.....
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:39 AM
Jan 13

On the surface his stance on this seems very wrong. I'd like to understand his reasons.

RoseTrellis

(126 posts)
22. Words in his mouth?
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:57 AM
Jan 13

How, exactly? Are not these his own words?
Newsome was elected to follow the will of the people, and I’m fairly certain the residents of Cali want the rich taxed for their fair share.

Karma13612

(4,938 posts)
17. Well,
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:19 AM
Jan 13

President Mark Kelly has a nice ring to it.

Hopefully Kelly throws his hat in the ring. He’ll be my choice if he is STILL a candidate by the time NY finally gets around to their primary. Another reason that all primaries should be on the same damn day in this country. I understand the mechanics of elections. But, it pisses me off to no end. I agree when people say they don’t have a say in the primary candidate selected. We wait months and watch our favored candidate sometimes fall by the wayside. I was heartbroken when I couldn’t fill in the little circle for Liz Warren. Early states make the decisions for the whole darn country.

It’s Wrong!!!!

Jose Garcia

(3,449 posts)
18. Instead of making a knee-jerk decision, he listened to the experts who work for him and made an informed decision
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:23 AM
Jan 13

angrychair

(11,854 posts)
20. What was that exactly
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:44 AM
Jan 13

Im interested in hearing why we need to play sycophant to billionaires.

Jose Garcia

(3,449 posts)
38. Economists employed by the state determined that the new tax would create a short-term increase revenue.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:54 PM
Jan 13

But over the long-term there would be a net decrease due to billionaires leaving state. These people already pay a significant amount of state taxes, and the amount that the state would lose by them leaving would not be made up by the increase in those who stayed.

angrychair

(11,854 posts)
39. I call BS
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:01 PM
Jan 13

So the only option is to kiss their feet and cut their taxes?

I seriously doubt they pay any taxes at all. People get hung up on the amount without understanding the scaling. Saying a billionaire paid a million dollars in taxes sounds like a lot to someone only making 50k a year but it actually only represents a fraction of a fraction of their actual wealth and they often are paying significantly less of a percentage of their wealth compared to the average person.

Jose Garcia

(3,449 posts)
40. Newsome is not advocating cutting taxes for billionaires. Where did you get they idea that he was?
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:09 PM
Jan 13

Even if a billionaire is 'only' paying $1 million per year in taxes, that is more that the zero which they would pay if they left the state.

angrychair

(11,854 posts)
41. Again
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:13 PM
Jan 13

So it's ok to ask me to pay 24% of my annual gross income but it's not ok to ask a billionaire to pay 24% of their gross annual wealth accumulation?

How exactly is that fair? They are, by default, getting a tax cut if they are not being expected to pay the same tax burden as everyone else.

duckworth969

(1,292 posts)
49. Billionaires are hoarders
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 05:55 PM
Jan 13

Fuck ‘em all. They’re an obscenity and social parasites.

Sorry Gav, looking elsewhere for leadership. You ain’t it.

Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #18)

Nigrum Cattus

(1,248 posts)
24. that's typical Newsom
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:13 PM
Jan 13

I'm a native Californian
1) the reason there are billionaires is because of our people
2) billionaires don't pay their fair share of taxes, that's why there is a proposal
3) doesn't matter how much money you have, you the same voting power as anyone else

global1

(26,459 posts)
27. I Wake Up This Morning And Find Newsom Wanting To Kill The Billionaire Tax & Warren Advising Tr**p On......
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:39 PM
Jan 13

affordability.

Is this a dream or a nightmare?

Newsom wants to be the Dem nominee and he's just thinking that he doesn't want to piss off the billionaires because he's gonna need their money/donations to be a contender.

I really don't know what Warren is up to.

Chemical Bill

(3,115 posts)
54. Warren was on Lawrence last night.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 09:51 PM
Jan 13

She gave a speech reaming the grifter a new one. He called her right after and tried to tell her how great his economic policies are. As she said "Talk is cheap." She wasn't buying what he was selling.

pwb

(12,532 posts)
28. But they have so much money still after they pay taxes?
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:41 PM
Jan 13

Why do they always want more more more? People who make enough money are the happiest.

Our wealth class has come out of the closet under trump. They are not nice people. Generally. IMO.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,295 posts)
29. Wow, that's the line for me. Please don't run for president.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:48 PM
Jan 13

Neither I nor anybody in my family will be voting for you ever again. No explanation needed, your action says it all.

I stuck with you and defended you when you passed the gas tax, when you brought this boondoggle fast train, when you raised vehicle registration fees when you didn't feel a need to defend trans rights and when all of us had to wear masks and avoid public events while you were out partying with no mask.
We are done.

CTyankee

(67,895 posts)
37. Not so fast! He isn't the only star candidate we've got! My senator, Chris Murphy, could be a terrific candidate for us.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:45 PM
Jan 13

We've got some time (unfortunately in some ways). I don't know if Chris could pull this off but at this stage we can deal with that.

AND there might be more. I've pretty much given up a woman president at this moment. I'm old and my hopes die hard...

CTyankee

(67,895 posts)
50. I am convinced that if Chris Murphy gets a shot at this, he can be considered a better choice than Newsom.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 08:16 PM
Jan 13

He just isn't as high profile as Newsom. He needs some promotion. People will listen to him. He is the opposite of Trump and people are sick of Trump. So here comes this nice guy from CT with great ideas and without a slick presentation. Murphy gives me hope (and I've been low on hope for a while now)...

JT45242

(3,907 posts)
33. I generally like him -- but he is on the wrong side of this one
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:13 PM
Jan 13

If he would veto because it was unconstitutional -- I could maybe defend it as a rule of law thing.

But if the people of California want to put a constitutional amendment to tax wealth and not just income to close all teh loopholes and make the rich pay their fair share -- he should get out of the way.

Deminpenn

(17,335 posts)
43. This billionaires tax is going to be on
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:35 PM
Jan 13

the ballot and it is going to pass.

While I can understand the grounded economic analysis, people are really, really mad about the wealth disparity and outsized influence of the super rich in America.

It's very much like the popular attitude in the late 1920s. It's why even Carville has told Dems they need run the most populist campaign since FDR.

EX500rider

(12,252 posts)
44. I expect he is right, lots of folks would move to avoid a $50,000,000 tax bill (per billion)
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:41 PM
Jan 13

Also being worth a billion does not mean you have the 50 million in the bank so moving might be the cheaper outcome for some.

52. Voters can pass it over Newsom's head
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 08:42 PM
Jan 13

It is a ballot initiative, if it passes Newsom cannot veto it. Ptttth!!!

Blasphemer

(3,599 posts)
55. I'm not sure that any pols (either side) realize that they are creating a generation of democratic socialists. nt
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 12:19 AM
Jan 14

BoycottTwitter

(116 posts)
56. Contact him and demand he support the tax
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 12:39 AM
Jan 14

Opposing the billionaire tax is a huge mistake. I urge everyone to contact his office: https://www.gov.ca.gov/contact/ and tell him he's making a gigantic error by opposing this.

This is not only bad for Newsom himself but it also hurts the Democrat brand by opposing this tax.

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