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BumRushDaShow

(166,673 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:29 PM Monday

Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports

Source: The Independent

Monday 26 January 2026 10:33 EST


Morale is “plummeting” among federal law enforcement officers tasked with carrying out the Trump administration’s aggressive anti-immigration operation, as they complained that long hours, ambitious arrest quotas and hatred from the public, according to reports.

While officers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol, overseen by the Department of Homeland Security, said they supported the administration’s goal of deporting undocumented migrants, many of them have grown “disillusioned” with the tactics being implemented by leadership.

More than 20 current and former immigration officials told The New York Times of their discontent in the hours following the fatal shooting of 37-year-old nurse Alex Pretti by a federal agent in Minneapolis. It was the second deadly shooting of a U.S. citizen carried out by a federal agent in weeks, as officers clashed with protesters following intense public anger over the violence in Minneapolis.

“You’re not addressing the problem by throwing a 500-pound gorilla into these inner cities,” Oscar Hagelsieb, a former immigration officer and special agent, told the Times. “They’re causing chaos, and unfortunately it’s costing lives.”

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-agents-morale-reports-minneapolis-shooting-b2907742.html

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Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
... tanyev Monday #1
Daddy are we the goodie or the baddie Clouds Passing Tuesday #107
I thought this was The Onion at first. niyad Monday #2
+1 orangecrush Monday #26
Sing, sister sing!!! ✊️ littlemissmartypants Monday #32
"second verse, same as the first!!!" niyad Monday #44
"a little bit louder and a little bit worse" DinahMoeHum Monday #47
chuckle 🫡 littlemissmartypants Monday #82
!!! niyad Monday #83
Arrest quotas ... well ain't that sweet bucolic_frolic Monday #3
Ask me if care what their morale is relayerbob Monday #4
Morale graycampervan Monday #66
Who needs morale when you have no morals relayerbob Monday #72
It's easy. Just quit. TomSlick Monday #5
Agree, just quit. BUT bluestarone Monday #24
The ones who got the signing bonus can't quit or they'll owe the entire $50K back. NYC Liberal Monday #36
Yep - they're going to find out the money has conditions they can't meet and they will never see it. NBachers Monday #45
Actually, they were stupid enough to believe they'd get it at all. WinstonSmith4740 Monday #63
There is always the Turnip Rule to consider - you can't get blood from one. TomSlick Monday #85
And a co-conspirator to murder, assault, denial of civil rights, Constitution violations & crimes against humanity. Wonder Why Monday #67
Let me help with their morale. Fuck. Them. All. NewHendoLib Monday #6
Fuck ICE ZDU Monday #7
"inner cities" Prairie Gates Monday #8
I noticed that dog whistle too. yardwork Monday #70
Yep. Very telling. Solly Mack Monday #81
So you scum support "mass deportation", just not looking like niyad Monday #9
They were hired to defend our borders, especially the southern border FakeNoose Monday #10
Sadly, the official 'border protection zone' is within 200 miles of the US border. That means Mexico, Canada & coastline Attilatheblond Monday #33
Yes I understand that ... but we have these things called "laws" FakeNoose Monday #69
"used to" being the operative phrase Attilatheblond Monday #75
I fear unhappy ICE folks may become MORE trigger happy just to read their goals and bonus $$$ riversedge Monday #11
Especially when they know they will not be charged by the feds travelingthrulife Monday #64
Sign up to trash the Constitution and then be surprised that people don't like you. This is how stupid maga is. Scrivener7 Monday #12
Quotas! It's so much easier (and safer) to arrest children and maids than well-armed MS13 gangs. Norrrm Monday #13
Arresting American citizens...... SergeStorms Tuesday #106
Glad to hear it! Lulu KC Monday #14
Don't believe this for one second. awesomerwb1 Monday #15
I believe it for many of them. They thought they'd get big paychecks to abuse people, not see people fight back legally Attilatheblond Monday #42
"pardoned DC rioters" awesomerwb1 Monday #61
It's not work to them. Dark n Stormy Knight Monday #100
This is good news. mysteryowl Monday #16
Well.....DUHHH! electric_blue68 Monday #17
Too lazy to be soldiers, too stupid to be cops... Drum Monday #18
Boo fucking hoo LNM Monday #19
"boo-hoo" CountMyVote4Reality Monday #20
Fuck them. They knew what ICE was when they joined. That is WHY they joined. RockRaven Monday #21
I quit a job because of personal ethics twice... slightlv Monday #35
Screw you! ExtraGriz Monday #22
I would imagine the morale of some is plummeting ToxMarz Monday #23
Agreed TM popsdenver Monday #91
Fuck 'em -- may they burn in hell Blue Owl Monday #25
Those bastards will NEVER get through 5 years of this Klarkashton Monday #27
Staying on the job... C_U_L8R Monday #28
As well it should. Ocelot II Monday #29
In the words of your fellow ICE agents, "Boo hoo!" SunSeeker Monday #30
Quit Piggy. chowder66 Monday #31
Mask wearing cowards. 281 days to Midterms. bronxiteforever Monday #34
Fuck the weak whiners. They can ALL... littlemissmartypants Monday #37
Demoralized due to 'Public Hatred'? Give me a fucking break. Scalded Nun Monday #38
FBI agents from Minneapolis field office should embed with ICE teams, record activity, and arrest for any illegal acts ChicagoTeamster Monday #39
We all know that everything with Maga and repugs is projection... slightlv Monday #40
May they never sleep a full night in ease again. May their guilt eat their guts out irisblue Monday #41
I know they aren't much for history. ChazInAz Tuesday #109
If they quit they must give back the $10,000 sign up bonus. Monsieur_Grumpe Monday #43
It was $50,000. llmart Monday #59
". . . long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports . . . " AverageOldGuy Monday #46
Were they expecting Katcat Monday #48
Zing!! littlemissmartypants Monday #55
Good. SamKnause Monday #49
When the recruits need the money, they will sign up--and stay and follow orders IMHO riversedge Monday #50
I hope they realize that when applying for future jobs, they can never, ever mention this one either. Vinca Monday #51
;-{) Goonch Monday #52
Good! Americanme Monday #53
Let's hope so. snot Monday #54
Their lack of morals is more concerning than their plummeting morale. Raven123 Monday #56
You are assuming they ever were?? Isn't there a scene from LOTR, niyad Monday #84
Fuck all of the ICE goons UpInArms Monday #57
That's rough, buddy. Grokenstein Monday #58
So my first thought was WinstonSmith4740 Monday #60
Bubbles being popped by reality with some of them. It happened to German guards/executioners who went insane Uncle Joe Monday #62
Morale? They have no shame or morals. AllyCat Monday #65
Russell Vought, our manager of OMB, says he wants all federal employees to "feel traumatized" every day Midnight Writer Monday #68
This is believable to me. JohnnyRingo Monday #71
Aw, the Nazis are having a sad :( JoseBalow Monday #73
Then quit and get a useful job Pinback Monday #74
The Manner With Which maxsolomon Monday #76
Morale seemed pretty good after they murdered Pretti SamuelTheThird Monday #77
Quite the sample. Torchlight Monday #80
Then don't be a nazi Dr. Shepper Monday #78
Honestly I'm not buying this humanizing bs fujiyamasan Monday #79
Caring about the bonus -- Reminds me when James Carville said back in the day... Beartracks Monday #90
How about... purr-rat beauty Monday #86
if you lie down with dogs... mike_c Monday #87
Well, Fuck Them. Joinfortmill Monday #88
GOOD!!! North Coast Lawyer Monday #89
Aww, diddums the crazed, murderous assholes get their fee-fees hurt? Aristus Monday #92
Then quit! IronLionZion Monday #93
I'll concede they may be fed up with long hours and quotas SpankMe Monday #94
To the ICE and CBP agents.... COL Mustard Monday #95
Now, Suddenly, They Are Remembering That When They Were in Grade School There Was This Thing The Roux Comes First Monday #96
They were under the impression that shooting citizens in the street TBF Monday #97
My, my...what a shame! BigmanPigman Monday #98
Fuck a bunch of ICE agents AverageOldGuy Monday #99
20 "officials" in a sprawling organization like that doesn't exactly mean there is dissension. NoMoreRepugs Monday #101
Many deserve execution. TommyT139 Monday #102
That's unacceptable...! regnaD kciN Monday #103
Stressed? Meditation can help you relax. Here, I'll guide you. Qutzupalotl Monday #104
The are there by choice RainCaster Tuesday #105
Just in case they have not heard - I FUCKING HATE EVERYONE WHO EVER CASHED AN ICE CHECK...FOREVER!!! Moostache Tuesday #108
ICE Morale gfarber Tuesday #110
ICE agent don't like the public hatred? JustABozoOnThisBus Tuesday #111
Fuck ICE and their "morale. Martin68 Tuesday #112

niyad

(130,219 posts)
2. I thought this was The Onion at first.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:32 PM
Monday

Now that it appers to be real . . .FUCK YOU GODDAMNED WORTHLESS, MURDERING SCUM. ZERO sympathy for you monstrousl hate-filled excuses for human beings.

relayerbob

(7,385 posts)
4. Ask me if care what their morale is
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:33 PM
Monday

Fuck them. They can go home and stop terrorizing people, and be happier. Although I suspect few people who sign up to be ICE agents are happy people to begin with.

bluestarone

(21,519 posts)
24. Agree, just quit. BUT
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:23 PM
Monday

Maybe get a spine and TESTIFY to rectify!!! Help STOP TSF's bullshit!!

NYC Liberal

(20,450 posts)
36. The ones who got the signing bonus can't quit or they'll owe the entire $50K back.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:42 PM
Monday

Anyone dumb enough to join ICE is highly unlikely to have been financially literate enough to not spend it all. So they’re stuck for 5 years.

And my response to that?

NBachers

(19,244 posts)
45. Yep - they're going to find out the money has conditions they can't meet and they will never see it.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:48 PM
Monday

WinstonSmith4740

(3,420 posts)
63. Actually, they were stupid enough to believe they'd get it at all.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:24 PM
Monday

It's a 3 part pay-out, with absolutely no parameters. Typical Trump bullshit. It's what happens when you deal with the devil.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/government/ice-agent-50k-signing-bonus-timeline-696961

TomSlick

(12,926 posts)
85. There is always the Turnip Rule to consider - you can't get blood from one.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 06:15 PM
Monday

If these idiot have spent the $50k, a judgment agaist them would not be worth the cost of paper and ink.

Wonder Why

(6,598 posts)
67. And a co-conspirator to murder, assault, denial of civil rights, Constitution violations & crimes against humanity.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:36 PM
Monday

niyad

(130,219 posts)
9. So you scum support "mass deportation", just not looking like
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:42 PM
Monday

monsters and thugs doing it. Got it!!!

FakeNoose

(40,508 posts)
10. They were hired to defend our borders, especially the southern border
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:43 PM
Monday

They have no business arresting American citizens anywhere in the US. They have no business shooting at ANYONE. They need to get the hell out of Minnesota, and stay out of every state except Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and lower California.

Attilatheblond

(8,470 posts)
33. Sadly, the official 'border protection zone' is within 200 miles of the US border. That means Mexico, Canada & coastline
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:40 PM
Monday

Most Americans live within that zone. It's a band around the whole of the nation.

That said, I do not believe Minneapolis lies within that zone. It's just that Trump hates the whole state because they didn't vote for him and their governor had the courage to stand against him in the 2024 election.

FakeNoose

(40,508 posts)
69. Yes I understand that ... but we have these things called "laws"
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:51 PM
Monday

The Republican Party used to believe in that kind of stuff.

Attilatheblond

(8,470 posts)
75. "used to" being the operative phrase
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 04:31 PM
Monday

Now that party is the party of Chicken Hawks once more. And they are terrified of Trump.

This is no country for spineless blowhards.

Scrivener7

(58,695 posts)
12. Sign up to trash the Constitution and then be surprised that people don't like you. This is how stupid maga is.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:46 PM
Monday

Norrrm

(4,265 posts)
13. Quotas! It's so much easier (and safer) to arrest children and maids than well-armed MS13 gangs.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:51 PM
Monday

Even killing Americans is ok with this republican administration.

Trump, Fox, and Noem will even provide the excuses.

SergeStorms

(20,130 posts)
106. Arresting American citizens......
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:54 AM
Tuesday

counts for their "quota" too, so that's why we're seeing so much of that lunacy.

Attilatheblond

(8,470 posts)
42. I believe it for many of them. They thought they'd get big paychecks to abuse people, not see people fight back legally
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:46 PM
Monday

Most are not the brightest people in the labor force and ICE offered good pay with potential bonuses to people, some of whom can barely read according to reports. One guesses many have less than impressive resumes and we don't know how many are pardoned J6 rioters who don't get along well with others.

Easy to imagine many of them didn't expect to actually WORK and be held accountable.

Let them go home to their mommies and daddies and snivel about how unfair it was that people got mad at them for being abusive, sometimes murdering, assholes.

awesomerwb1

(5,026 posts)
61. "pardoned DC rioters"
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:19 PM
Monday

Only make up a small part of the thousands of new recruits.

There are thousands or Proud boys and other more violent far right wing white supremacist groups and militias willing to do this "work" for peanuts as long as they have protection.

mysteryowl

(8,499 posts)
16. This is good news.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:53 PM
Monday

It's working!

The resistance.
The noise protests.
The complete lack of respect of these people.

Glad to hear it is getting under the skin of some of them.

Do you suppose they don't get their $50,000 bonus unless they bring in a certain amount of people?

Keep making it hard on them America.

RockRaven

(18,885 posts)
21. Fuck them. They knew what ICE was when they joined. That is WHY they joined.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:02 PM
Monday

And before I get any "not all..." -- then fucking resign. Like people have done at DOJ, FBI, CDC, NASA, etc. You've had plenty of time, and haven't done it yet so that means you are a willing part of it.

They are fucking cowards who don't want the accountability that comes with being a piece of shit. Tough luck. You're a piece of shit, and nobody will ever forgive or forget that you are.

slightlv

(7,520 posts)
35. I quit a job because of personal ethics twice...
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:42 PM
Monday

both times the company was screwing the customers, and I refused to be a part to it. When I brought it up and saw no changes were going to be implemented, I handed in my notice. I had a 5 year old to support by myself, but some things you trust will work out because you did the *right* thing.

Hea, ICE... there's your answer. QUIT! Go back to the border states and stay out of our cities. Stop arresting, dehumanizing, and killing American citizens... in fact, quit killing everyone. You have no rights.

ToxMarz

(2,783 posts)
23. I would imagine the morale of some is plummeting
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:20 PM
Monday

But many, many (I believe a majority) of these agents are all in, doing exactly what they have dreamed of doing (not just to immigrants, but to all the 'woke/DEI/socialist/libtards' the rightwing media has been dehumanizing for decades to just this end. The difference is now they are encouraged, equipped, immunized (they think), and having the time of their lives. They will never stop on thier own, they have to be STOPPED! Elections won't happen soon enough, Congress and the Courts MUST DO THE SOMETHING. Protesting alone I don''t think will be enough.

popsdenver

(1,781 posts)
91. Agreed TM
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:02 PM
Monday

Any that aren't happy are disenchanted that they don't daily, get to go out and pound the living' shit out of some innocent person, or maybe, just maybe the chance to blow them away. And not worry in the slightest about ever being charged..........

They are described as BRAVE..........LOL.........Have you ever seen them go one on one? There are always five...six....seven...eight....nine....ten or even more on one protestor. All of them armed to the teeth, looking like they are in a war zone........ Look at their recent targets......a woman, a five year old child, and a male nurse. They state he was armed........what a crock........it was in his holster legally I might add, and ended up in one of the Sadists hands, before he was executed.

Most men who have a TWPC, (Teenie Weenie Peenie Complex) have big macho trucks to make them feel tough, these ICE, and even more so Border Patrol only need battle gear and a Assault Weapon to feel like a real man........

Great idea all you sadistic mother fuckers......if you're truly upset, throw off your gear lay down your guns, and go back home and get a normal job.....and change your voter registration to independent or Dem.......(The Republican party you MAGAots voted for, brought you to where you are today, associating with cold blooded murderers, which is absolutely despicable if you take the time to think about it)...
You are judged by the company you keep guys........

Klarkashton

(5,003 posts)
27. Those bastards will NEVER get through 5 years of this
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:27 PM
Monday

To capture the bonus. They are fucked. Tough ass.

C_U_L8R

(49,067 posts)
28. Staying on the job...
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:31 PM
Monday

Reveals just how few principles these homicidal goons have.
If they had any guts, they’d be blowing the whistle and presenting evidence.

Ocelot II

(129,593 posts)
29. As well it should.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:32 PM
Monday

If there are any halfway decent people left in ICE, they should prove that they aren't total scumbags by quitting and finding honorable work elsewhere.

SunSeeker

(57,789 posts)
30. In the words of your fellow ICE agents, "Boo hoo!"
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:33 PM
Monday

Quit your illegal jobs, you miserable pieces of shit.

littlemissmartypants

(32,296 posts)
37. Fuck the weak whiners. They can ALL...
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:43 PM
Monday

Take a long walk off a short pier shackled to their leaders and the entire Trump cabinet.

Scalded Nun

(1,623 posts)
38. Demoralized due to 'Public Hatred'? Give me a fucking break.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:44 PM
Monday

They live for this shit.

Show me a dog owner who is saddened by his dog cowering when he comes home because every time he comes home he kicks the shit out of him.

This overlording, sadistic shit is orgasmic for these assholes.

ChicagoTeamster

(543 posts)
39. FBI agents from Minneapolis field office should embed with ICE teams, record activity, and arrest for any illegal acts
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:45 PM
Monday

They should also coordinate with local PD in case fed won't prosecute.

slightlv

(7,520 posts)
40. We all know that everything with Maga and repugs is projection...
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:45 PM
Monday

how many months and years did we put up with them calling us "snowflakes"... well, turns out of course, THEY are the real snowflakes! Can't handle people baking cakes for the "wrong" people getting married. Can't live and let others live. And now, they see absolutely what the entire country thinks of them and their "law enforcement" (to which they have no rights of action) and they can't take it. They're crying "oh, poor pitiful me"... and we STILL don't cut them any breaks. They just can't stand it; they're always the victims... the biggest snowflakes of all time!

ChazInAz

(2,998 posts)
109. I know they aren't much for history.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:19 AM
Tuesday

Perhaps we should show them what happened to collaboraters when the Allies liberated France. Their neighbors knew who they were and what they did.

AverageOldGuy

(3,475 posts)
46. ". . . long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports . . . "
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:51 PM
Monday

Sonsofbitches brought it on themselves and have no one else but themselves to blame.

Collect your signup bonus and STFU.

Vinca

(53,476 posts)
51. I hope they realize that when applying for future jobs, they can never, ever mention this one either.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:02 PM
Monday

And they'd better hope their names are never revealed because they will be ostracized from normal society.

Americanme

(416 posts)
53. Good!
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:05 PM
Monday

Keep the momentum going, let them know they will be prosecuted and imprisoned after sanity reclaims government.

snot

(11,580 posts)
54. Let's hope so.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:06 PM
Monday

Among other thoughts, the attacks on cities makes little sense, since they're generally politically blue and less hostile toward immigrants. It seems like it's the more conservative people in rural areas that tend to believe that immigrants are stealing jobs and wreaking havoc.

So if you're going to send ICE agents out, why not send them to the places where immigrants are most resented? Well, because there aren't very many immigrants there!

So rather than let cities go ahead and suffer all the supposedly horrible consequences of tolerating immigrants if that's what they want to do, the ICE agents have to go "save" cities from horrors that only rural populations fear.



Raven123

(7,616 posts)
56. Their lack of morals is more concerning than their plummeting morale.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:07 PM
Monday

They could quit and rejoin the human race.

niyad

(130,219 posts)
84. You are assuming they ever were?? Isn't there a scene from LOTR,
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 06:05 PM
Monday

where the evil army is created?

Grokenstein

(6,277 posts)
58. That's rough, buddy.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:11 PM
Monday

Maybe shoving a senior citizen to the concrete or shooting someone in the back ten times will make you feel better?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,420 posts)
60. So my first thought was
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:19 PM
Monday

Boo fucking hoo, assholes. This bullshit on the part of ICE agents has been going on since day 1, when the first armed, masked thugs jumped out of unmarked cars and grabbed students off the street for writing editorials Trump didn't like. They knew what they were signing up for because they knew who was running the show, and what they would expect.

So your fee fees are hurt? The solution is easy. Stop being assholes. Quit.

Oh, that's right...but you THOUGHT you were doing the right thing...you were going after "bad guys". You know, the ones that are picking our crops, or looking for extra work on Sunday at Home Depot, or working in pre-schools, which is exactly where the bad guys hang out. Besides, you won't get the big signing bonus, right? This is Donald Trump you're dealing with here. You were never going to get it.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/government/ice-agent-50k-signing-bonus-timeline-696961

Uncle Joe

(64,439 posts)
62. Bubbles being popped by reality with some of them. It happened to German guards/executioners who went insane
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:21 PM
Monday

during the genocide prior to WW II from murdering their victims with rifle shots one after the other, never ending, and despite being supplied with drugs and prostitutes to dull their humanitarian senses.

However that system of mass murder wasn't fast enough for the Nazis; so they designed the gas chambers as a more detached, "efficient way" of committing the Holocaust.

So the *rump administration; knew the ICE thugs created by their policies might feel guilt from their actions, that's why they gave them masks to hide their faces, and identities while also unconstitutionally trying to place them above the law.

Thanks for the thread BumRushDaShow

AllyCat

(18,625 posts)
65. Morale? They have no shame or morals.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:27 PM
Monday

F ‘em.

A whole TWENTY “officials”? Not impressed. Enjoy your trials and jail you criminals.

Midnight Writer

(25,185 posts)
68. Russell Vought, our manager of OMB, says he wants all federal employees to "feel traumatized" every day
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 03:40 PM
Monday

they go to work.

This guy is known as Trump's "Shadow President" and is one of the authors of Heritage's Project 2025.

This Administration is getting exactly what they asked for, and exactly what their supporters voted for, concerning their secret police officers.

Why aren't they all happy that these Feds feel traumatized?

JohnnyRingo

(20,596 posts)
71. This is believable to me.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 04:04 PM
Monday

It does not inspire anyone to wreak brutality while the populous hates you so bad, so universally, that they have hide behind masks. Even kitchen table republicans shaming them.

I'm sure the money is good, but one can only put up with so many tears, jeers, and dejection.

Pinback

(13,533 posts)
74. Then quit and get a useful job
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 04:15 PM
Monday

like cleaning chicken coops or something. Oh, wait, you’d probably have to work with immigrants then.

maxsolomon

(38,338 posts)
76. The Manner With Which
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 04:32 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Back when I saw a Shrink, he focused on that idea a lot: The manner with which you act, HOW you do something is so important.

Somehow, ICE and CPB managed to deport MILLIONS during Obama's and Biden's terms, with little objection from the public.

What's different now?

The Manner With Which DHS is conducting this anti-Immigrant pogrom: the Quotas. The masks. The cruelty. The violence. The unqualified, incompetent, paranoid hires. The politicized training. The politicized rhetoric from Leadership. The camps. The 3rd-country deportations. The direct-to-foreign-prison deportations. The billions allocated to CPB/ICE in a purely political bill shoved through Congress via Reconciliation.

fujiyamasan

(1,392 posts)
79. Honestly I'm not buying this humanizing bs
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 04:52 PM
Monday

I don’t think most of them care. The agency went out of its way to recruit the worst of the worst and looked specifically for sociopaths with no moral or ethical qualms about kidnapping people (or killing them).

They looked for Nazis and got Nazis.

The only thing these folks care about though is that bonus. Withholding that would be the only thing that would hurt morale.

Beartracks

(14,429 posts)
90. Caring about the bonus -- Reminds me when James Carville said back in the day...
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:01 PM
Monday

... "If you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find." Except that the Trumpers knew what they'd find with the bonus being offered.

===============

Aristus

(71,816 posts)
92. Aww, diddums the crazed, murderous assholes get their fee-fees hurt?
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:18 PM
Monday

Aww, poor babies...

Does everybody hate them?

SpankMe

(3,670 posts)
94. I'll concede they may be fed up with long hours and quotas
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:24 PM
Monday

But, they relish the public hatred.

The Roux Comes First

(2,207 posts)
96. Now, Suddenly, They Are Remembering That When They Were in Grade School There Was This Thing
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:59 PM
Monday

Called (admittedly not by grade-schoolers!) "fellow-feeling" or "caring about others"?

Obviously suppressed by them for years, it will be tough to disinter it now and know WTF to do with it! They just got this chance to free up their inner asshole! With pay!!

TBF

(35,904 posts)
97. They were under the impression that shooting citizens in the street
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:00 PM
Monday

would be looked on kindly?

AverageOldGuy

(3,475 posts)
99. Fuck a bunch of ICE agents
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:20 PM
Monday

I'm praying that most of them suffer frostbite and lose noses, fingers, toes.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,850 posts)
101. 20 "officials" in a sprawling organization like that doesn't exactly mean there is dissension.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:36 PM
Monday

More like people creating cover for their ass.

Qutzupalotl

(15,720 posts)
104. Stressed? Meditation can help you relax. Here, I'll guide you.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 11:11 PM
Monday

Let your eyelids go heavy and let out a long sigh. Take a slow, deep breath and slowly let it out.

Imagine you are drifting down a stream on a raft on a beautiful sunny afternoon..

*blows whistle, sprays bear spray in face*

Moostache

(11,064 posts)
108. Just in case they have not heard - I FUCKING HATE EVERYONE WHO EVER CASHED AN ICE CHECK...FOREVER!!!
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:00 AM
Tuesday

There is no forgiveness coming.
I will NEVER forget their acts of treason.
They WILL be uncovered and their lives are over as free actors in this society as soon as ICE falls.

Arrests, charges, trials and convictions will be had - no matter the timeline or the costs.

gfarber

(221 posts)
110. ICE Morale
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 01:06 PM
Tuesday


There once was a memo that said,
“Make the arrests—use your head.
If the city implodes
Or a bystander codes,
Just note collateral instead.”

An agent worked shifts without sleep,
Chasing quotas absurdly steep.
He muttered, “This blows,”
They said, “Shut up and go—
Empathy’s not ours to keep.”

They dropped armored trucks in a town
Like a circus from federal clown.
When the crowds screamed “Get lost!”
They went, “Wow, shocked at the cost—
Why’s the vibe so aggressively down?”

A nurse tried to help in the mess,
Didn’t run, didn’t threaten, didn’t stress.
But a finger got twitchy,
The moment got itchy,
And the state said, “Oops—R.I.P., I guess.”

The brass held a presser that day:
“We regret it. Deeply. Anyway—
Arrests were on pace,
So let’s call this a case
Of success in a messy display.”

Morale’s in the goddamn floor,
But leadership yells, “Do more!”
“If you’re burned out or pissed,
That’s a you problem, kid—
Now go kick in a few dozen doors.”

They asked, “Why’s the public so mad?
Why’s enforcement’s whole image so bad?”
While swinging the stick,
Counting bodies and clicks,
And pretending all of this is should make us glad.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,621 posts)
111. ICE agent don't like the public hatred?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 01:25 PM
Tuesday

I thought "public hatred" was an extra perk for these guys.

Three more years.

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