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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsDo You Have Any Family Connections To "Famous or Notorious Persons"...
...that you would be willing to mention?
For example, I have a distant cousin that I have never met - with the same last name as me - who married one of Sam Giancana's daughters.
When I found out about that a few years ago, I was gobsmacked!
Intractable
(1,689 posts)'s mother's best friend.
I heard some good dirt, third-hand! No concert tix.
GReedDiamond
(5,519 posts)...but that ain't too bad!!
EYESORE 9001
(29,467 posts)Same surname, which is how I broached the subject. This person was far-removed from any involvement and didnt even know the Manson family member (being born around the time of the murders), parents - or even grandparents on that side, so I didnt bring it up again. It still gave me the willies in a six-degrees-of-separation way.
GReedDiamond
(5,519 posts)In the 1980s, I knew a guy who had been involved with the L.A. underground newspaper that published Manson's "manifesto" after his arrest.
I think the paper was called "Tuesday's Child."
The paper did so after some "family" members visited the paper's office, and they were intimidated into publishing the statement.
no_hypocrisy
(54,382 posts)in the Thirties.
GReedDiamond
(5,519 posts)no_hypocrisy
(54,382 posts)How else could a milkman send his two daughters to private colleges during The Depression?
GReedDiamond
(5,519 posts)yaesu
(9,037 posts)Just kidding 😅 but there was always a rumor in the family that Wild Bill Hickok was related, somehow 🤔
Nittersing
(8,135 posts)Well, the story goes: Cops jumped on his running board and said "Follow that car!" and a few blocks later, jumped off, complaining that he drove too slow!
VGNonly
(8,401 posts)My ex-wife had family, two sisters, that were gun molls for the Licavoli gang. They left the Detroit/Toledo area to escape the heat, moving to the Cincinnati area.
quaint
(4,686 posts)Her name was Susie and she hated kids. The marriage did not last.
mwmisses4289
(3,332 posts)Rob Roy, and Sitting Bull. Havent been able to find hard prove of any of that, but does make for some interesting family lore. Oh, and dhs' family claims to be descended from the younger son of an english noble family who came to america way before the revolutionary war.
Grim Chieftain
(1,293 posts)He knew Sam Giancana well.
AllaN01Bear
(28,663 posts)"dont be afraid of skeletons in the closet. they may help u break some log jams later on.
debm55
(56,339 posts)MissB
(16,341 posts)But someday, when my relative retires, I may share! That relative currently travels with a well known Hollywood icon.
malthaussen
(18,427 posts)On my mother's side, in the direct line, we are supposed to be descended from a Covenanting martyr shot in his own dooryard in front of his wife and children back around the turn of the 18th century. This link was asserted by Mom's great-uncle, who did a family genealogy back in the 1950s.
Certain problems arise with the assertion, because it is not documented. This is compounded by the fact that her family's name is Brown. The martyr in question was one John Brown -- and just to make it more absurd, around the same time two other "John Browns" were murdered in the same area as dissenters. It was a bad period to be a Covenanter. Why my g-g-uncle decided we were related to "John Brown of Priesthill" is a mystery to me. Out of idle curiosity, I checked the sources he did use and even emailed the descendants of the family who are still in Scotland around the turn of the present century. We agree that the connection is probably factitious. It does remain, however, that my mother's family did flee Scotland for Northern Ireland at the time, and did move from there to York County in the colony of Pennsylvania in the 1750s.
John Brown of Priesthill made the history books and there is a modest monument to his memory on the moors near Muirkirk.
-- Mal
Orrex
(66,712 posts)He gets a nod in the acknowledgements of one of Scorseses books.
LudwigPastorius
(14,258 posts)He came over as an indentured servant, and apparently, was a real piece of work.
The first duel (with a sword and dagger) was fought in New England between...Edward Doty and Edward Leister. The duel ended with one being wounded in the hand and one in the thigh. Their punishment was to be tied head and feet together for twenty-four hours without meat or drink.
The post-1632 records of the Plymouth Court... has twenty-three cases over the 20 years between January 1632 and October 1651 that involve Edward Doty. The records include suits/countersuits, and charges such as fraud, slander, fighting, assault, debt, trespass, theft, etc. But although Doty appeared before the court numerous times, he was never punished for criminal activities beyond small fines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Doty
Jacson6
(1,788 posts)Talitha
(7,702 posts)In addition to keeping things working at the White House, Jeff also went ahead of the Presidential entourage to set things up. He's the guy who was responsible for the 'red phone' connections, as well as hot lines to local hospitals, etc.
Wolf Frankula
(3,816 posts)But that's nothing special, half of the people in that area are descended from him.
berniesandersmittens
(13,100 posts)Aristus
(71,736 posts)He was part of the Georgia state delegation that drafted and signed Georgia's Articles of Secession before the Civil War. Not especially proud of that.
His daughter, named Fanny, is reportedly one of Margaret Mitchell's inspirations for Scarlett O'Hara.
Not necessarily something I'm proud of, either...
Irish_Dem
(80,057 posts)And met Judy Garland, etc.
FalloutShelter
(14,208 posts)Spent time with him several times and boy was he fun.
Of course Uncle Vinnie has long since passed and so has my friend Cathy. RIP
Goonch
(4,274 posts)????
crud
(1,207 posts)Barney McNulty, inventor of cue cards, worked with all the greats of old Hollywood. When he passed, Jay Leno payed tribute with a joke..."sad news, the inventor of cue cards, Barney McNulty has passed, Hollywood is speechless."
Barney was also the younger brother of Penny Singleton, Blondie from the blondie movies of the 1940's and 50's.
RustyWheels
(197 posts)Sybil ( Shirley A. Mason ) was my father's 3rd cousin and I was born in the town ( Dodge Center, MN ) where she lived up until she went off to college.
Shirley was an artist and lived out the final 25 years of her life in Lexington, KY, working out to the art studio in her home.
I have a website setup ( www.hiddenpaintings.com ) which tells about the 103 paintings from her past locked in a cabinet in the basement that were found when cleaning out the house after the estate sale.
NBachers
(19,209 posts)Im not only the president of the Hair Club for Men, Im a client.
They used to have infomercials during the late show and I was one of the trained operators who are waiting for your call. We take down names and numbers as leads for Cy, and the rest of the sales staff to call back later. Theyd throw us a few bucks of beer money.
As far as my family goes nope, the Irish side were potato famine, bilge class. On the German side, an ancestor came over because he wanted to avoid being drafted into the Kaisers endless wars. Then he sent his passport over to his brother, and his brother came over fraudulently. So fuck these deporting assholes.
Zackzzzz
(280 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,287 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,895 posts)He was a shirt-tail relative on my dad's mother's side.
Ran the Chicago Outfit for at least 25 years.
My dad's biggest milk customer was a connected supermarket chain owner that was personal friends with Tony.
bif
(26,707 posts)According to 23 & Me.
Sedona
(3,860 posts)In Chicago during a meeting of the Christian Veterans of America, Father Arthur Terminiello addressed a crowd in an auditorium, along with a crowd outside the auditorium protesting the meeting. In his speech, Terminiello attacked Jews, President Franklin D. Roosevelt and first lady Eleanor Roosevelt, Communists, and others. The crowd outside reacted by breaking windows and hurling rocks at the auditorium doors. Police arrested Terminiello for violating a city ordinance establishing that misbehavior may constitute a breach of the peace if it stirs the public to anger, invites dispute, brings about a condition of unrest, or creates a disturbance.
Illinois courts upheld the conviction, but a 5-4 majority of the Supreme Court reversed. In the majority opinion, Justice William O. Douglas focused not on the content of the priests speech, but on the legality of the Chicago ordinance. The Court ruled that by permitting conviction for speech that stirred people to anger, invited public dispute, or brought about a condition of unrest, the law seriously invaded the protection of speech afforded by the First Amendment. A function of free speech, Douglas wrote,under our system of government is to invite dispute. Speech may indeed best serve its high purpose when it induces a condition of unrest, creates dissatisfaction with conditions as they are, or even stirs people to anger.
Dissenters thought justices should uphold fighting words doctrine
The justices in the minority, notably Robert H. Jackson, filed vigorous dissents. Jacksons 24-page opinion lambasted the majoritys four-page opinion and chided the majority for failing to uphold the conviction based on the fighting words doctrine. He cited Terminiellos attack on the protesters as slimly scum, snakes, bedbugs, and the like and noted that the priest had hurled his comments at an already inflamed mob. Jackson concluded his dissent with a veiled warning: There is a danger that, if the Court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact.
In contrast to the decision in Terminiello, two years later in Feiner v. New York (1951) the Court upheld the conviction of a college student charged with causing a breach of the peace after refusing police requests to stop addressing an unruly crowd.
returnee
(835 posts)is my ex step nephew in-law.
nuxvomica
(13,908 posts)A brilliant chemist, he gave himself up after falling in love with my great aunt, whose brother, my grandfather, was serving under Pershing at the Mexican border. When I met him, he was in his 80s and recovering from a stroke. Another odd thing about him: he was immune to tooth decay and even at the age he was when I met him he still had all his teeth.
nitpicked
(1,598 posts)Was a physical education professor who got involved with JFK's Council on Physical Fitness,.
Drum
(10,578 posts)multigraincracker
(37,032 posts)3rd cousin, once removed. Uncle that was a famous artist. Dad was a well known phd in animal science. Brother an All American academic football player on a National Champion football team.
bif
(26,707 posts)My great aunt was married to his nephew.