Why Hydrogen DOES Have a Future

[Caribbeans]

Why Hydrogen DOES Have a Future

Undecided with Matt Ferrell

In the summer of 2023, the Rijnstate hospital of Elst, The Netherlands opened its doors. What makes this particular campus interesting is how it generates its energy. Heat pumps, PV panels, and an electrolyzer all work in concert to maintain a constant supply of power. The building collects energy from over 1,300 solar panels located on both the roof and the ground floor. When there’s a surplus of solar, that energy goes toward electrolysis, the splitting action that produces hydrogen. This then allows for hydrogen fuel cells to kick in as a form of reserve power when the sunnier supplies are low.

[Think. Again.]

1. The only thing holding back Hydrogen's use...

...is the massive amount of misinformation the fossil fuel industry and it's allies are spreading to slow the energy transition we need to make.

[NNadir]

2. If it does, humanity is screwed even more than it already is.

Hydrogen is made from fossil fuels, with exergy destruction, and all of the efforts of the fossil fuel industry to greenwash itself by appeal to it will not change the fact.

Facts matter.

[GoreWon2000]

4. Facts do matter but you're spreading misinformation about hydrogen

You ignore the fact that the words "fossil fuel" are NEVER mentioned in the article. The hydrogen in this article is being generated entirely from solar power. and electrolysis This will be just 1 non-fossil fuel way to generate hydrogen. You don't understand that fossil fuels are not needed to generate hydrogen. Furthermore, the US Geological Society has now discovered a vast reserve of hydrogen that's located underground that is 26 times the size of the reserve that's left of the planet killing fossil fuel. If only a fraction of this hydrogen reserve can be accessed, it'll be enough to power civilization for 200 years, .https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/energy/just-a-fraction-of-the-hydrogen-hidden-beneath-earths-surface-could-power-earth-for-200-years-scientists-find Both of these methods of generating hydrogen again DO NOT INVOLVE FOSSIL FUELS and they're further proof that my engineer father with bachelors and master's engineering degrees more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience and was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers was right about hydrogen being the solution.
In contrast, neither of the solutions which you support, nuclear power with it's toxic nuclear waste or carbon capture which is nothing more than a scam by the fossil fuel industry to keep burning fossil fuel are green. As my engineer father taught me, no one has figured out how to safely dispose of toxic nuclear waste which can damage areas of our planet that get exposed to it for centuries and no technology exists that can capture the amount of carbon that's dumped into the atmosphere of our planet on a daily basis by the burning of fossil fuels. Again, hydrogen is the green solution. Nuclear power and carbon capture are NOT green solutions.

[thatdemguy]

3. Hydrogen is nothing but a battery

With large losses at every stage. Using solar to to make hydrogen is about the only green way-ish way to make it, but with huge losses. Depending on what or who you read its a min of 20% loss, closer to 50%.

We wont even get in to getting it from natural gas, which puts out close to 30% more co2 per watt that just burning the natural gas.

[GoreWon2000]

5. An underground reserve of hydrogen gas has been discovered

The U.S. Geological Society has discovered an underground reserve of hydrogen gas that's 26 times the known reserve for the planet killing fossil fuel. If just a fraction of this hydrogen gas can be accessed, it'll be enough energy for 200 years. You can go to the USGS website and read about it. BTW, my engineer father with bachelors and masters degrees in engineering, more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience and was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers firmly believed that hydrogen is the solution to getting away from burning the planet killing fossil fuels. This hydrogen gas discovery is further proof that he was right.

[thatdemguy]

6. I agree if it could be found in abundance enough to

get out of the ground it would change things. But as it is right now with the exception of Mali ( iirc ) no one has been able to get any out of the ground in any volume. And even in Mali they only get enough to run a small generator.

Then we get in to the people who think that even hydrogen would have an impact on global warming, by slowing the natural break down of methane.Read the below

https://e360.yale.edu/features/natural-geologic-hydrogen-climate-change]

[GoreWon2000]

7. The only by-product from burning hydrogen is water

You're not taking into account the fact that the only by-product from burning hydrogen is water. Furthermore, the link you provided was written before the USGS paper that I cited and some of the people cited in your link are scientists, not engineers.. Scientists with no background in aviation and automotive engineering don't have that expertise to know what fueling solutions to get away from the planet killing fossil fuels are best My engineer father with bachelors and masters degrees in engineering, more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience and was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers believed that hydrogen is the solution. My engineer father had the engineering expertise to be able to know that hydrogen is the solution because one of my engineer father's many areas of engineering expertise was how every aviation and automotive fuel was formulated. Knowing exactly how fuels need to be formulated along with the abundance of hydrogen and the only by-product of burning hydrogen being water convinced my engineer father that green hydrogen is the solution. This issue was part of my childhood and I continue to believe that my engineer father was right.