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Putin is DONE and he knows it MINERAL DEAL SIGNED Ukraine War Update (Original Post) 2naSalit May 2025 OP
Anyone know WHY Zelinsky would make any deal with the orange thing vapor2 May 2025 #1
I have noticed that Zelenskyy is in a hard place. Have you? Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #2
The answer is: He knows if he loses to Russia, Putin will get the minerals. louis-t May 2025 #5
We don't know the details of this deal Warpy May 2025 #6
This is interesting. Trump knows the deal is worthless if Putin wins this war. patphil May 2025 #3
Perhsps... 2naSalit May 2025 #4

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,423 posts)
2. I have noticed that Zelenskyy is in a hard place. Have you?
Fri May 2, 2025, 01:06 PM
May 2025

I think attacking pragmatists for being pragmatic should be a non-starter.

I get that tRump, per se, can't be trusted, but there are mechanisms beyond tRump's simple say-so.

louis-t

(24,426 posts)
5. The answer is: He knows if he loses to Russia, Putin will get the minerals.
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:00 PM
May 2025

Better to take half and save your country. I think he knows Fat Orange will try to screw him over but it's worth a shot.

Warpy

(113,756 posts)
6. We don't know the details of this deal
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:19 PM
May 2025

except someone has seemingly got through to King Carbuncle that war reparations were inappropriate. If it's anything like one of the early deals (and I hope it is), it's a win-win,not only for the things Rehi stated but also because Ukraine isn't capable of extracting their resources while the US can supply equipment and training. Ukraine gets good jobs and shares in the profit. It seems we get first dibs on the minerals, the most important of which is titanium (sorry, Artur). Having access to a reasonably large deposit will further reduce any dependence on China.

It also does give the US a compelling stake in stopping any Russian advance and denying them the land grab Putin so clearly wants. There is no way to extract any of the stuff we want if bullets and artillery are flying around. My gut says The Rotted Pumpkin will attempt a dirty deal to recognize Russian ownership of Crimea. It's a deal that won't last but might be enough of a sop to Russian pride to stop the shooting until Putin is dead and gone to dust.

patphil

(8,124 posts)
3. This is interesting. Trump knows the deal is worthless if Putin wins this war.
Fri May 2, 2025, 01:41 PM
May 2025

What are Trump and Putin up to?

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