Automobile Enthusiasts
Related: About this forumWhich side is your gas tank filler on? Don't look back.
It's on your dash.

Here, it's on the driver's left.
Its inventor just passed away.
Ford Engineer That Designed Gas Tank Indicator Passes Away
https://fordauthority.com/2025/12/ford-engineer-that-designed-gas-tank-indicator-passes-away/

I got back to my office after the meeting, and without even taking my coat off, I sat down and started writing the first draft of this proposal, Moylan told Design News in 2020. I typed it up and turned it in and forgot completely about it." "The indicator or symbol I have in mind would be located near the fuel gauge, Moylan wrote in his proposal to his boss, R. F. Zokas, and simply describe to the driver on which side of the vehicle the fuel fill door is located. By 1989, the Moylan Arrow began showing up in Ford vehicles, and the rest, as they say, is history.
Thanks!

House of Roberts
(6,381 posts)The filler is always on the side away from the pump.
Raven123
(7,480 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,436 posts)you ought to learn where the gas tank filler is the first or second time you put gas in. And no, it never moves to the other side.
UpInArms
(53,989 posts)The ford ranger and the Honda civic are on the driver side
Sometimes it takes me a bit figure out what Im driving
dflprincess
(29,140 posts)The first several months I had it, I pulled up to the pump thinking it was on the driver's side more than once (and did I feel goofy when I did that).
mwmisses4289
(3,137 posts)I will have to look at my dash and pay attention to the arrow.
PJMcK
(24,673 posts)Company vehicles.
Friends or family members cars.
All vehicles have a fuel gauge but most also have a low fuel warning light. Do you consider that indicator useless?
Its not just your car, its a convenience.
Clearly the industry and public dont agree with your point of view.
Phoenix61
(18,692 posts)I did have to ask a gas station attendant how to open the gas tank cover. He laughed and said he had to do that a lot for that car the release was in the glove box!
3catwoman3
(28,506 posts)What make of car was this?
Phoenix61
(18,692 posts)P
littlemissmartypants
(31,492 posts)Phoenix61
(18,692 posts)Maybe a Ford Taurus?
littlemissmartypants
(31,492 posts)Ford has release on floorboard unless it was an older model and those are spring-loaded.
Luxury (so-called) cars are the most likely to have the release in the glove box.
viva la
(4,471 posts)that we all think we should have thought of.
"Squeezable ketchup bottle"-- I swear I thought that first.
3catwoman3
(28,506 posts)should be accompanied by a small scissor so you can just snip off the cheese rather than lift the spoon over your head until the cheese strand thins out enough to break.
True Dough
(25,688 posts)it is not recommended to squeeze ketchup into your gas tank!
3catwoman3
(28,506 posts)Mine is on the driver's side, which I find preferable.
And, this might be weird, but I don't like pulling the gas hose across my car, so I usually will wait in line to go to a pump that will be on the driver's side.
Delarage
(2,533 posts)There are always lines waiting for the driver side pumps....where my Corolla's filler is....and I love skipping all that and pulling the hose all the way over. Doesn't seem to damage anything, saves time & gas, and my car is SUPER OLD. So it works for me 👍
MichMan
(16,567 posts)See it happening all the time at Costco
3catwoman3
(28,506 posts)At our local Costco, most of the customers are polite and patient, and typically wait for both cars at the pump(s) to finish and leave so the next 2 cars in line can pull in without having to squeeze thru the middle space and then awkwardly back in to the first pump.
Sometimes, the attendants put out the orange traffic cones in that middle space so people have to wait. I like it when they do that - safer, IMO.
usonian
(23,365 posts)It somehow worked without it. Have to research. No "magic" key.
THAT I KNEW OF!!!
Old Crank
(6,625 posts)Some have a cable. Usually driver's side on the A pillar below the dash or in front of the seat at the floor. Many more have a much the cover release to pop it open. This is lighter and has fewer things to go bad, like dirt and rust in the cable from the cabin.
The cable release usually opens a driverside cover. The last rental I had, the person showed me where the release was.
HappyH
(164 posts)The gas door is unlocked if you have the fob in your pocket and are close to the gas door. The passenger doors and hatch work the same way.
usonian
(23,365 posts)When things get too "fly by wire" I get nervous.
The driver's door opens when I turn the key and the gas latch opens when I pull the lever.
2018 seems to be roughly the dividing line. There are very winding roads up here and the loaner lane warning was going off all the time. I have stick-on wide angle mirrors instead of the proximity warning --- the one accessory besides fog lights that I miss. I think they wanted $500 for fog lights, and TBH, I looked at the stalk and it's way too complicated. I never really figured out the rear window wiper activator.
Voice control? Only if passengers can't be heard and misunderstood. Unless it's "Subie, get me a beer ".... wait, this is an auto. Cancel that. Get me a tea with lemonade!
The newer model had WAY better entertainment system. Mainly they cut the glare. As it is, the glare is horrible on the 2018. I took the cowl out of the speedometer well. I couldn't see anything there with all the glare.
Simple optics. You'd think that the Japanese would have been on top of this sooner.
HappyH
(164 posts)was turn off the touchscreen and the lane beeper. They were very distracting and annoying. I live in the mountains and its hard to drive without cutting a few curves..
My Subi is a 2009 model. No touchscreen or annoying beeps. There is a small information screen that tells me all I need to know. I had the motor replaced recently because fixing it was cheaper than a new one and its a 5 speed stick. Its a lot of fun on a twisty mountain road.
usonian
(23,365 posts)I had a 20 year old 2wd Tacoma, and an AWD pickup cost twice the Forester. Same deal with mountains. The pickup could't pass anything on upgrades. The Forester has plenty of get up and go.
I didn't think so at the outset, and was thinking of a Highlander or Miata (zoom, zoom) but this gets the job done. Passes cars on an upgrade. Fabulous except for pickup jobs. Miss that.
Whoever wants my old round dining table gotta come pick it up.
sdfernando
(6,010 posts)side where I put the gas in.
CentralMass
(16,842 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,081 posts)The filler tube was behind the license plate in the back.
Similar to this:

Old Crank
(6,625 posts)And seeing cars drive away from the pump pouring gas out because they overfilled the tank. A great feature when you had to park your car over a puddle of gas to get to the pump.
dflprincess
(29,140 posts)I was about 4 when he got it. He amused himself by asking me to guess where the gas went in. I checked both sides of the car, then thought I'd show how smart I was because I knew it was behind the license plate on his old car. Wrong again.
It was behind a door on the tail fin. I was truly amazed - which is probably why I remember it so clearly.
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LudwigPastorius
(14,081 posts)That's some Space Age design right there!
OldBaldy1701E
(10,036 posts)My Pontiac Skylark was also designed in this way.
MichMan
(16,567 posts)Good thing safety regulations have improved since then
Old Crank
(6,625 posts)I knew about the arrow so when I pulled into the station I parked accordingly.
Wrong side. I had misread the dash and had seen an indicator for fuel economy or something and not the tank gage.
summer_in_TX
(4,023 posts)Very handy for those working with a fleet of cars or in the automobile industry especially.
Cool!
underpants
(194,647 posts)We have a rental for the weekend. Nissans have them in the right.
moniss
(8,639 posts)later on some of mine were on either side or behind the license plate. I liked my '57 the best.

LisaM
(29,467 posts)It seems to me that it would be more sensible to just always put the gas tank on the same side in every car, but engineers seem resistant to standardization. I don't user copiers much anymore but it used to frustrate me to no end that toner cartridges were so stupidly different from each other.
Emile
(40,382 posts)fill cap on the passenger side, and the dash gauge read full on the left, and empty on the right. Stupid 🙄
padfun
(1,887 posts)Their gas fill is on the driver's side and the F on the gage is on the right side of the gauge,
Emile
(40,382 posts)over the years, that had the fill caps on the passenger side too. All I know is, I don't don't like it.
Ford Escape dash gauge.

marble falls
(70,601 posts)... it's always on the opposite side the exhaust system runs.
MichMan
(16,567 posts)Think about it. If you were ever to run out of gas and need to refuel on the shoulder of the road, where would you rather be standing?
With your back to traffic as it zips a few feet away, or safely on the furthest side?
JohnnyRingo
(20,444 posts)Just like many minivans have the rear door on the left, opening into traffic here. Your filler was designed to be on the driver's side for when someone pulls up on the left side of the pump.
There's another way to tell where most of your car model was sold. In the rest of the world turn indicators are required to be amber, but cars intended to be primarily sold here will use one of the brake lights to signal a turn. I can see the Euro/Sino rule to be far better because it still uses two brake lights at all times. It's safer.
Now you can go out and look.
MichMan
(16,567 posts)Like I stated, it is on the passenger side where it belongs.
JohnnyRingo
(20,444 posts)Not all VWs or Fords have fillers on the right. Most are on the left.
It depends on where most of the platform is sold (or built).
MichMan
(16,567 posts)Already stated that having it on the right side in a country with LHD is much safer if you ever have to refuel on the side of the road.
If it is on the left side in the UK, Australia, Japan, and India, that would also be the reason because those are RHD countries. Much safer.
In my 67 years, I have owned five different Ford products, (both US and German manufactured) and nine different Volkswagens years ranging from 1981-2024. One of the VW was manufactured in the US, one in Mexico, and the reminder in Germany.
Every single one of my Fords and VW has had it on the right side.
JohnnyRingo
(20,444 posts)You're the guy who pulls up on the wrong side of the pump. Haven't you ever noticed how you usually have to back out from the car in front of you? The rest of us have enough room to go around, but you're front bumper to front bumper with the car ahead.
Most people here drive up on the right side of the pump like on our roads. That conveniently puts the pump and the filler on the driver's side.
Now you can get out and walk around behind your car every time you need to get gas, but if you're ever on the side of the road pouring it in from a jerry can -something most people have never done - it would be worth it. ...I guess.
MichMan
(16,567 posts)They only allow you to drive in from one side, so your scenario doesn't happen there. Those lanes also generally have shorter wait times.
When I need to buy gas somewhere else, since I live in a rural area, there are always open pumps. I fact, the Mobil station I frequent when I need gas and not near a Costco only has one pump at each island, so there is no one in front of me anyway. Don't recall the last time I ever had to back up in a gas station. If I ever find myself facing someone bumper to bumper in the future, I guess they can back up.
JohnnyRingo
(20,444 posts)What do you mean they only allow you to drive up on one side? Which side do they dictate? Is it on the right side of the pump to make it easier for most cars?
Specifically, what model car do you have?
MichMan
(16,567 posts)All the vehicles enter the lot on one side and exit on the other side. I have a 6 year old VW sedan and a 1 year old VW hatchback car.
Old Crank
(6,625 posts)Right behind the cockpit. Could fill from either side at the station or the side of the road.
JohnnyRingo
(20,444 posts)He was 80 years old. I hope his headstone has an arrow to indicate where flowers are to be placed.
In the proposal, which included a sketch of what it could look like (though using an illustration of the fuel door open, not just a simple arrow), Moylan said "Even if all Ford product lines eventually locate on the same side, for the minor investment involved on the company's part, I think it would be a worthwhile convenience not only for two car families, but also pool car users and especially car rental customers." He sent it off to his boss and promptly forgot all about it, until getting a reply seven months later from R. F. Zokas, a director of interior design, who said the arrow would be added to 1989 model year cars that were under development. The 1989 Ford Escort and Mercury Tracer were the first to use it, followed by the Ford Thunderbird and Mercury Cougar.
Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/2061179/inventor-little-arrow-what-side-fuel-filler-is-on-dies/
usonian
(23,365 posts)No doubt, someone saw the obit, and posted.
I had picked up the "tell" from one grapevine or other some years ago.
JohnnyRingo
(20,444 posts)I admit I had no idea who thought up the gas arrow. Never cared to look it up, but it makes an interesting story now.
usonian
(23,365 posts)Or heard it on the grapevine. I had somd fun telling family and friends.
kimbutgar
(26,721 posts)Thank goodness for his little tank arrow invention!
Rip Mr. Moylan
markie
(23,816 posts)I was often using rentals and I really appreciated the picture on the dash.... my car now... plug-in on left front side (I have a convertor to use with Tesla chargers and always have to take up 2 spaces.... I make no friends when busy
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