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JT45242

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Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:22 AM Jan 26

MVP and Offensive player of year

Been listening to a lot of pundits over the last couple of weeks about these two.

MVP has gone to a QB of the number one seed in one of the conferences ever since 2012 and Adrian Peterson win. So, it should be Lion QB based on better season than Mahomes. But if we are going to look past that. Jackson isn't even the MVP of his own team based on how defenses play them. Look at every first half play against the Steelers in the playoffs as an example. They literally ignored Lamar with the first guy who always went after King Henry. Look at the amount of 8 man boxes he threw against. Higher seed , josh Allen. Eye test of who is more important to their team based on how defenses play them, Josh Allen.

If we were honest MVP should be Saquon but he should not be offensive player of the year. No late season collapse by the Eagles because I'm the cold, Saquon had giant games down the stretch.

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There have been 5, count them 5, players to win the receiving triple crown including Jamar Chase. Chase did it with his #2 in and out of the lineup. So he faced a lot of double coverage. People forget how amazing that is because Kupp did it a few years ago. Chase cannot be MVP because he didn't pull his team into the playoffs (more of an indictment of a moronic coach and poor depth on defense and offensive lines than Chase or Burrow fault).

Saquon is the 8th best rushing session in total yards but is dwarfed in yards per game by the OJ 2000 yard season in 14 games.

You can be the most valuable player and not be the offensive player of the year. MVP implies you made your team better and that it was meaningful enough to impact playoff seeding given when they vote.

If Lamar had missed a few games would they still be the third seed given the problems that the Steelers, Bengals and Browns have? Yes. Would the Bills be the number 2 seed without Josh Allen... nope.

The Saquon case is easier. The Eagles are #2 seed rolling into the playoffs this year with him. Last year without them they were a train wreck at the end of the season.

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