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FirstLight

(14,369 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:36 PM 3 hrs ago

"Love & Light" woo-woo'ers vs. Reality

It's so very common in the spiritual and esoteric world to see people that are ALL love & light & puppies & butterflies.

I wanna adress the very REAL side of life that we need to really acknowledge if we're gonna do any real evolving on this planet. (This is just my personal opinion, and I welcome your input and opposing views etc)

We've all known those teachers and guides and elders ...the ones who wear all white to keep negativity off them. The ones who always promote loving compassion for the brutes and real awful people in your life. The ones who are all about the daily meditation and full practice and nothing less. The ones who say it's not your place to weild ill will and that holding people accountable can be done gently and lovingly...etcetc

I wanna talk about the reality of being fully human, and recognizing that sometimes, we don't *have* to forgive and bless those who have done us grave wrongs. Sometimes, it's ok to wish for Karma to whop them upside the head with the "brick of Truth" and FAFO. Let someone else hold that person in compassion, it's not always your job.

I've had those teachers myself, and while I often felt 'less than' compared to the higher vibration they were walking, I've now come to realize that my humanness isn't a full on flaw. And I often wondered how they made abundance come to them out of thin air, or how they 'manifested' good things so easily, while the rest of us 'followers' struggled with health, poverty, etc...well maybe it was because they have people like ME funding their lifestyle! It's really easy to be all love & light when you have health insurance or a house you got as a divorce settlement so you dont have to worry about rent.

It needs to be said, heard, and embraced more in the spiritual circles that we're human and have these emotions and struggles as part of the lesson. It's not always about letting go and letting god, we gotta get down in the trenches sometimes, do the deep digging in the muck of our lives, generational traumas, and the uncertainty that this life gives us. We can't always pray away a disease or illness, or an abusive partner, or loss of a job and the cascade of events that come along with that. Nor should we.
Getting mad, frustrated, and healing through the muck is why we're here in the first place. It's not about re-creating heaven on earth as much as it is finding earth's inherent beauty, even amongst the ashes of our own lives.

I guess I feel compelled to share these thoughts as I was having a deep dive talk with my bestie yesterday, and she asked about my Mentor, and how she's helped me with recent trauma from DV that almost took my life... the answer, she hasn't. Instead I got told "I thought you were done with that lesson"...then radio silence. For someone who I looked u to and thought was pretty advanced and connected, her response to my almost DYING was so very tone-deaf I was really taken aback. Even after I reached back out to let her know what was up after a month (because she'd asked a mutual sister-friend to have me call her) I got crickets. I've been part of her life and she a part of mine for 30 years, and that was it. Maybe she didn't want to deal with all that "heavy and dark" energy. But that shows me a shallowness to her practice that I never expected...

In this same conversation, I told my friend that I was NOT going to be that kind of leader/teacher in my own practice. I will wholeheartedly say that, while holding a grudge is unhealthy, it DOESN'T mean you have to hold compassion or even forgiveness for someone who has hurt you severely. There are PLENTY of other souls who can offer that person the love and forgiveness they may need...but it isn't in my job description. Drop it like it's hot and move on to you own healing. Let Karma handle them and their toxicity, you can hold your Light and still be a bass ass bitch.

Hell, look at Freyja - she suffered NO fools!

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk

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"Love & Light" woo-woo'ers vs. Reality (Original Post) FirstLight 3 hrs ago OP
What an interesting post. 3catwoman3 2 hrs ago #1
Being human means having the full range of emotions, all the way from hate to Grace and everything in between. Clouds Passing 2 hrs ago #2

3catwoman3

(25,874 posts)
1. What an interesting post.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:06 PM
2 hrs ago

I have found a reasonably comfortable spiritual/philosophical home in a small Unitarian Universalist (UU) congregation about 11 miles from my house. Been going there since November 2011. The basis of UU thinking is called The 7 Principles:

For some within Unitarian Universalism, there are seven Principles which reflect deeply-held values and serve as a moral guide. The wisdom and spirituality of these Principles are drawn from sources as diverse as science, poetry, scripture, and personal experience.

These seven Principles are as follows:

1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

I have trouble with the 1st one, as there are some individuals in whom I cannot find any inherent worth and dignity. The person about to get a second term as POTUS is one such person. Adolf Hitler is another. Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones and their ilk are on that list as well.

Clouds Passing

(3,200 posts)
2. Being human means having the full range of emotions, all the way from hate to Grace and everything in between.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:38 PM
2 hrs ago

That doesn’t mean we act upon or react to every negative emotion with immense intensity or swallow bad emotions to our detriment. If we can make allies with our difficult emotions they can show us where we need protection or warning.

I’m sorry you almost died. What your friend said was callous. I almost died 30 years ago and I’m still not over it. I will not get over it in this lifetime. I will not get over how badly my family and friends treated me when I was sick and dying. Going through hard times is not easy, others can make it worse.

Reality is this life is despair and joy, sickness and health, poverty and wealth, hate and love, fear and comfort, like the up and down of our beating heart. Sometimes we need love, sometimes we need anger. Sometimes we need light, sometimes we need dark. Sometimes puppies poop on the persian carpet. Sometimes butterflies die off because of pesticides and loss of habitat. Those things make up life.

Thouroughly enjoyed your TED talk. Thanks 💚




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