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madaboutharry

(41,828 posts)
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 05:39 PM Saturday

So this happened today at the revolution....

Last edited Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)

I attended the Hands Off protest in the city where I live. There were about 2,000 people there.

I made a really nice sign about protecting Federal Parks, Public Lands and Federal workers. There were a lot of really good signs about medicare, social security, public lands, democracy, and how Trump is completely insane. There were American flags, upside down American flags, Ukrainian flags, and Canadian Flags.

There were speakers who spoke about how they depended on medicaid and/or social security, there was someone who talked about how democrats need more people in Washington like Cory Booker, someone talked about all the damage Trump was doing to democracy...

And then they brought up a woman who was introduced as being a member of the Socialist party and who has been out protesting for a year and a half.....I knew exactly what was coming...
Right on cue she immediately started a rant about "the genocide in Gaza...."

So that was it. I sighed and I left. I take this experience as me being told that this is yet one more space where Jews are not welcome. Well, I guess some Jews, like those who are members of JVP are welcome.

But not me.

The end.

Shabbat Shalom everyone!

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So this happened today at the revolution.... (Original Post) madaboutharry Saturday OP
It seems like someone was trying to sabotage the HandsOff protest. Biophilic Saturday #1
Not for nothing JustAnotherGen Saturday #2
Thank you for writing this. madaboutharry Saturday #3
Maybe a young JustAnotherGen Saturday #7
Link for people IbogaProject Sunday #17
This is exactly why I didn't go to a protest and I won't join any protests. nycbos Saturday #4
I won't go to another protest and make the same mistake twice. madaboutharry Saturday #5
This. This is the reason why the Democrats lost to Trump. Beastly Boy Saturday #9
New replacement message: this is too scary. nt Exp Sunday #14
Fyi - you're posting in a protected group. Mosby Sunday #15
I feel like JustAnotherGen Saturday #8
An uncomfortable fact worth of deep discussion . . . Richard D Saturday #6
Indeed it has to happen JustAnotherGen Saturday #10
That's good to know. Richard D Saturday #11
I wonder whether this took place in other cities question everything Saturday #12
Respect the I.C.C. warrants! It is genocide. What else would you call it? nt Exp Sunday #13
You have earned being Blocked from the Jewish Group. madaboutharry Sunday #16
You are welcome to protest with us. Tbear Monday #18
It is going to get worse. Behind the Aegis Monday #19
I would like to recommend this post 100x. madaboutharry Tuesday #20

Biophilic

(5,498 posts)
1. It seems like someone was trying to sabotage the HandsOff protest.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:13 PM
Saturday

Who are these people really? They did so much damage to the Democratic candidates last fall and now they show up again. And no, until I see them at an anti republican or anti trump protest I really can’t believe they are anything except disrupters.

JustAnotherGen

(34,645 posts)
2. Not for nothing
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 06:46 PM
Saturday

I'm much more concerned about sick and hungry children and the elderly in America right now.

Charity begins at home.

There was and has been a thread of Anti-Blackness in Palestinian American community.

Since 1908 - our natural ally has been Jewish Americans. Jewish Americans have never asked us to wait. Our fight has been the same one.

I'm sorry that happened. That movement was problematic last year - and now in a MagAmerica - they are STILL trying to center themselves. They can take a ticket and wait in line. Not a single one of them will lift a finger to help a Black.American or Jewish American family when the Klan comes calling. They won't.

We are just collateral damage in their minds. And personally? I will never forget or forgive.

madaboutharry

(41,828 posts)
3. Thank you for writing this.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:03 PM
Saturday

I don't think most people have any awareness of what you wrote about here. Americans are poorly educated when it comes to history, and especially when it comes to the history of people who aren't white. They certainly have no knowledge or understanding of the history and relationships that exists between other cultures.

JustAnotherGen

(34,645 posts)
7. Maybe a young
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:21 PM
Saturday

Black American enthralled by the Free Palestine movement and its many layers of anti-Semitism will be propelled into learning about The Niagara movement and then the founding of the NAACP.

We are better together. We can't do it alone. My appearance doesn't show my heritage. I knew my Grandpa's parents. Had them well into their 90's. Grammy Hannie who made certain I was able to do summer camp at my local JCC so I would know "who" I am.

nycbos

(6,466 posts)
4. This is exactly why I didn't go to a protest and I won't join any protests.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:15 PM
Saturday

I did, however, make two canvassing trips to Wisconsin from Chicago for Crawford.

My days of activism ended ended on October 7. My electoral activism will never end.

madaboutharry

(41,828 posts)
5. I won't go to another protest and make the same mistake twice.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 08:24 PM
Saturday

I so much wanted to feel that I was in this fight for our democracy. But it was just another experience in being "othered."



Beastly Boy

(11,919 posts)
9. This. This is the reason why the Democrats lost to Trump.
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:32 PM
Saturday

And it's not only about the "Zionists". It's about each faction "othering" all other factions. Intolerance in place of searching for common ground.

Mosby

(18,349 posts)
15. Fyi - you're posting in a protected group.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:17 PM
Sunday

We support Israel here. If you can't do that then don't post.

Thanks.

JustAnotherGen

(34,645 posts)
8. I feel like
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:28 PM
Saturday

We told them. She told them. WE told all y'all. Where were these people last November?

I had a deep tissue massage and facial today. I'm resting.

Richard D

(9,653 posts)
6. An uncomfortable fact worth of deep discussion . . .
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:11 PM
Saturday

. . . is how the left has gotten hijacked by the jihadist-loving and Jew hating anti-Americans. I hope some day we have the courage to face such a discussion.

JustAnotherGen

(34,645 posts)
10. Indeed it has to happen
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 09:34 PM
Saturday

Not here - but on Threads - these discussions are happening.

Deep in my gut I *feel* Harris was an easy target because of race and gender - and who she is married to.

Young Black Americans who are making an active choice to turn their backs on the very people who have been our strongest allies in America for over 100 years - are being read for filth by their elders. It's starting now.

Black Americans and Jewish Americans did NOT do this.
We.
Told.
Them.
This.
Would.
Happen.

Our ancestors lived through it in America before.

question everything

(49,984 posts)
12. I wonder whether this took place in other cities
Sat Apr 5, 2025, 10:58 PM
Saturday

On the one hand when I see all the photos I worry that some ICEmen carefully screen then in search of someone to deport.

On the other hand if any of the protesters are dressed in Hamas colors..

madaboutharry

(41,828 posts)
16. You have earned being Blocked from the Jewish Group.
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 12:31 PM
Sunday

This is THE JEWISH GROUP, the OP is about not feeling supported or respected as a Jew. It is inappropriate to distract and change the subject when the topic is about JEIWSH feelings. As such, you are no longer welcomed in this group!

Behind the Aegis

(55,231 posts)
19. It is going to get worse.
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 04:34 PM
Monday

This was in The Forward and pretty much sums up what Jews on the left are feeling/experiencing from a side that is supposed to support minorities: Jews at Tufts are furious over ICE seizing a pro-Palestinian grad student. But they’re wary of joining protests for her.

More and more, Jews are getting the reminder, we aren't American Jews or Jewish Americans, we are Jews living in America. Anti-Semitism is ignored or scoffed at (in best case scenarios) or defended and promoted. BOTH sides are doing it, BOTH sides (almost always) ONLY call out the OTHER side and deny anti-Semitism exists on THEIR side. It is literally a pinscher moment for many Jews. Groups and issues which are liberal are pushing out Jews and dividing up which are "The good ones and which are the kikes". Jews are expected to "go into the closet" in respect to their Jewishness. Excuses and harassment, especially 'splainin', have become the new normal.

"Are you now or have you ever been a Zionist or supporter of Israel" is happening in social "justice" spaces, including groups like the GLBT, which really pisses me off, as one can image as I am a member of that minority too! While the left is NOWHERE as extreme or violent, bigotry is still bigotry and shouldn't be waved away as inconsequential.

We will make our way; we always do. Thankfully, we do have some allies, and I hope some of them will pick up the mantle and fight when we can't or are just to worn down. We need them.

madaboutharry

(41,828 posts)
20. I would like to recommend this post 100x.
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 09:43 AM
Tuesday

I think this is where we are at:

Jews are getting the reminder, we aren't American Jews or Jewish Americans, we are Jews living in America.


Jews are getting a wake up call. American Jews grew complacent since the mid-20th century, falsely believing that they have been accepted into the American landscape. The message now is loud: "Not so fast."
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