Now California and New York do not matter

[jzodda]

So the other day I got into it with a co worker here at work.

Hes not necessarily a Trumpkin but does have a right wing world view. He said that if we eliminate the voters of California and New York Trump wins the popular vote.

This set me off immediately as it came out so casually. its maddening to think that these fools want to now dismiss the voters of the largest state? As if the welfare states like Oklahoma or alabama mean more ? When I say welfare what I mean is that these dirt poor and badly managed right wing states contribute zero to our treasury. They are the biggest grabbers though while California and New York contribute among the most.

Then I started reading Trumpkin talking points. Rush asshole limbaugh and his minions were the ones spreading this vile crap. it made me realize that we cant let our guard down for one second.

They are trying very hard to marginalize us and to delegitamize us and we will have to battle them.

[PoliticAverse]

1. Your coworker didn't even need to add New York, California alone would do it.

California gave Clinton a +4 million vote margin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California%2C_2016

[lapucelle]

2. If we eliminate CA and NY, the welfare red states will have to actually pay

for the government programs they currently get because states like NY and CA pay for them.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html

[geek tragedy]

3. If we eliminated TX + FL Gore would have been named President in 2000 and Kerry would have won in

2004.

[Sanity Claws]

4. If these states don't matter, then we should be allowed to secede

NY and CA are powerhouses of the US economy.
Let them try to get by with Dumbfuckistan.

[duffyduff]

5. The economy would totally crash.

About sixty million people live in those two states.

Florida and Texas couldn't bail the country out.

[treestar]

6. It's one of their more absurd "arguments"

It's irrelevant. California and New York are states.

Just as logical to say Hillary would have won if we just left out the South.

[stopbush]

7. If we eliminate all the bigots who voted for Trump

he gets ZERO votes.

[Generic Other]

15. Too too true

Not an active brain cell in the whole lot.

[JSup]

8. Saying states don't matter...

...seems to be what both sides do now. Yay Murica.

[DBoon]

9. They want to eliminate people they don't like

Meaning if you don't support Trump, you aren't a real American

[MFM008]

10. they are going to find out how many people

hate him and his oil rich posse very soon.

[Blue_Tires]

11. That's a bullshit meme he stole from twitter

tell your "co-worker" to eliminate Texas and Florida and see how he likes it

[JustinL]

12. you could respond with equally irrelevant facts about POS's EC win

If you eliminate the voters of Waukesha County, Clinton wins Wisconsin.

Same with Lancaster County, PA, and Macomb County, MI.

Using your coworker's logic, you can demonstrate that POS owes his EC win to only three counties.

[jzodda]

13. Great point!

it just shows how dumb their arguments are.

[liberal N proud]

14. It will be any blue state that will not matter

And they will feel the wrath of the con man before it's over.

[Stargleamer]

16. At Roughly 20% of the US population

California and New York Residents amount to about 1 in 5 residents. Talk about your bs arguments. . . As it is a vote in Wyoming or Ohio counts for more than a vote in California.

[LisaL]

18. Vote in Wyoming does count more than a vote in California.

Thanks to electoral college.

[TheFrenchRazor]

17. great, then let them have their own president and laws. nt

[LisaL]

19. And if we eliminated TX, Trump wouldn't have gotten to 270 electoral votes.

[KingCharlemagne]

20. It belongs to Nexico anyway. - nt

[aidbo]

21. Sure, and if you want to lose a lot of weight quickly, just have one of your legs cut off. Nt

[Wounded Bear]

22. The Electoral College is basically a gerrymander against demographics...

when you can slice and dice the demographics and suppress the Democratic vote effectively, the Repubs can't lose.

[MurrayDelph]

23. If you don't count the votes against him

Trump won unanimously.

Now GOP is trying to figure out how to make sure ALL votes against them are never counted again.