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11. It is past time for Biden's DOJ to arrest Trump for his insurrection and put him on trial for it. Replace Garland...

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Fri Jan 17, 2025, 01:29 PM

Jan 17

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...and just get it done. Ceding power to a Constitutionally disqualified insurrectionist should not be what President Biden does, but Biden is still playing by rules that the other side neither acknowledges nor respects. Lincoln did not allow the Supreme Court to interfere with ending both the Confederacy and slavery. Biden should not continue to allow both the DOJ's feckless leadership and the Supreme Court to interfere with the prosecution of Donald Trump, the insurrectionist and felon. President Biden's "warning" speech the other day was but a hollow substitute for actual leadership.

All of what happens in the next four years of this country's future are down to President Biden playing by rules which the other side does not care to respect. He just does not seem to fathom that following rules is only worthwhile if those rules are respected by all of the parties to which they apply. If the other side does not and will not respect the rules, see Abraham Lincoln's example for how matters should be addressed. If any here wonder about how the exercise of power looks, if President Biden fails to act now (and he by all signs will undoubtedly fail to act), you will see that exercise of raw power at the hands of Donald Trump, and it will not be for the benefit of our constitutional democracy or the citizens of the US.

Articles like the above article from the Guardian are merely pathetic collections of afterthoughts and vain words taking the place of actions that the Democrats should have taken long before now. Based on the twin examples of President Obama's coddling of the bankers and W's use of torture and President Biden's coddling of Donald Trump and his fellow insurrectionists, it is clear that the Democrats cannot actually muster the will to act decisively to protect the country from constitutional threats be they exploitation by financial interests, the use of torture, an illegal invasion of Iraq, or an insurrection clearly fomented by a losing GOP President. Such articles are meaningless.

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Guardian: It's time for Democrats to go low [View all] RainCaster Jan 17 OP

Agree. But how many will (or won't)? nt intrepidity Jan 17 #1

Welp BannonsLiver Jan 17 #6

Millennials and Gen Z in the Democratic Party seem less squeamish about doing what's necessary Elessar Zappa Jan 17 #58

Call them what? GusBob Jan 18 #73

Pedos for one yankee87 Jan 18 #77

I'm in. Resist. It's a goddamn war. Joinfortmill Jan 17 #2

Yes, consistent resistance in the most creative ways we can come up with. Magoo48 Jan 17 #18

Should but don't think they know how. republianmushroom Jan 17 #3

The fact that this is clearly necessary is a sad commentary... keep_left Jan 17 #4

Why is that sad? Cirsium Jan 17 #28

Well, you're certainly right about the 1850s, and you're probably right... keep_left Jan 17 #37

It is all from the right Cirsium Jan 17 #48

Great analysis! yellow dahlia Jan 17 #53

Yeah, that's fair. It's not "both sides" at all; offhand, I can only think of one... keep_left Jan 17 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 18 #62

it is indeed appalling Skittles Jan 17 #35

What about Nancy Macey? Maraya1969 Jan 17 #5

that's what the rethugs want southmost Jan 17 #7

Amen and Amen again. Buns_of_Fire Jan 17 #8

Kick 'em in the balls progressoid Jan 17 #9

Use electron microscope to find GOP balls. GreenWave Jan 18 #84

Yeah, except too many elected Democrats think they can get republicans voters to back them so they play nice ZonkerHarris Jan 17 #10

Voters, or dollars? Cirsium Jan 17 #33

exactly ZonkerHarris Jan 17 #45

It is past time for Biden's DOJ to arrest Trump for his insurrection and put him on trial for it. Replace Garland... xocetaceans Jan 17 #11

So you think this will happen over the weekend? Lulu KC Jan 17 #12

YES!! Rikki Tikki Tumbo Jan 17 #16

Unfortunately, the ruling meant the Supreme Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 17 #56

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You're missing the nuances. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 18 #69

I could not disagree with you more in your blaming Biden wnylib Jan 17 #30

Obama is responsible for not holding choie Jan 18 #60

I call BS on both claims. And on sowing divisiveness when we need unity. wnylib Jan 18 #65

The truth hurts. choie Jan 18 #74

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What nonsense. wnylib Jan 18 #67

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The leaders and voters of the dem party DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #13

Minute men. William769 Jan 17 #14

the Dem base has been screaming this for ages now LymphocyteLover Jan 17 #15

Dems need to assert themselves! poli-junkie Jan 17 #17

This right here Aviation Pro Jan 17 #19

We should NEVER make nice to the magats Mountain Mule Jan 17 #20

Dems/Librulz have no counter to the Right's media ecosystem. maxsolomon Jan 17 #21

Controlling nothing means nothing to lose ck4829 Jan 17 #23

Yes, I suppose you're right. maxsolomon Jan 21 #87

I'm all in. Bird Lady Jan 17 #22

The pigs have been trying to pull us down into the mud for decades. live love laugh Jan 17 #24

Sure Cirsium Jan 17 #34

Your analogy makes zero sense. live love laugh Jan 17 #36

Do better Cirsium Jan 17 #49

+1 krawhitham Jan 18 #80

And the high ground has gotten us...? ck4829 Jan 17 #39

I didn't say we shouldn't go low, but I dread the muddying live love laugh Jan 17 #40

Understandable ck4829 Jan 17 #42

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 18 #68

Control of the White House 12 of the last 16 years krawhitham Jan 18 #81

What an odd scale to use... why 16? You could also say 4 of the last 4 years. ck4829 Jan 18 #85

I always thought the "When they go low, we go high" approach was idiotic. AZ8theist Jan 17 #25

Agreed, but they won't. flvegan Jan 17 #26

It isn't a choice. orangecrush Jan 17 #27

Yes, we need a disciplined opposition party, a shadow government bucolic_frolic Jan 17 #29

Shadow Government yellow dahlia Jan 17 #54

Go scorched earth for next two years. Sneederbunk Jan 17 #31

If that is even possible. yellow dahlia Jan 17 #55

No, states control the elections. summer_in_TX Jan 18 #59

They don't know how. DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 17 #32

I've been wanting that since 1980 - no luck as of yet tenderfoot Jan 17 #38

It's time to elect some new Democrats who are capable of going low. Too many of the old guard live in the past. jalan48 Jan 17 #41

People will choose an imperfect fighter over a perfect wimp dalton99a Jan 17 #43

That's the bare minimum Blue_Tires Jan 17 #44

All this doesn't mean shit... SpankMe Jan 17 #46

Good read malaise Jan 17 #47

Weird and Couch was effective. So was mentioning Project 2025. Kid Berwyn Jan 17 #50

Odds of that happening lower than odds of me winning Powerball awesomerwb1 Jan 17 #51

ruthlessly, bitterly mean is NOT who we are. elleng Jan 17 #52

The part of the article that most resonated with me was: summer_in_TX Jan 18 #61

imo, LONG PAST time. B.See Jan 18 #70

Anger is not a strategy GreatGazoo Jan 18 #71

What is Brat summer? GusBob Jan 18 #72

"Be Worst" Oopsie Daisy Jan 18 #75

i wish - i don't think we have it in us samsingh Jan 18 #76

if you can't beat them join them krawhitham Jan 18 #78

ALL IN RecoveringJournalist Jan 18 #79

I liked the Guardian Kali999 Jan 18 #82

We need our own militia and bot brigade Kali999 Jan 18 #83

Trump & his Maga cult fight a street fight: ruthless and with no rules. elocs Jan 18 #86