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Straw Man

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47. As a liberal Democrat who is gun owner and lives in NY State, I have some insight into this situation.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 10:57 PM
Jan 23

First of all, I assume you're thinking of a handgun, because you mentioned going out walking. The CCIA (Concealed Carry Improvement Act) of 2022 mandates an 18-hour course for a handgun license. This course is not provided by the state; you will be taking it from private instructors, probably at a gun range, at your own expense. Then you will need several character references, who can't be relatives. (This has always been the case, not just since the CCIA). You will need to be fingerprinted. Your application will be reviewed by a judge, and you will most likely be called in for an interview. Among other things, you will be asked your reason for wanting a handgun. Be calm and respectful, because this judge will have absolute discretion over granting or denying your permit.

Expect the processing of your application to take six to twelve months, depending on what county you live in. When you acquire a handgun, it will need to be listed on your permit. You will bring a receipt of the purchase to your sheriff's office, where you will fill out an amendment form to add this gun to your permit. After a judge has reviewed your amendment, which can take 3 to 6 weeks depending on your county, you will be called back to the sheriff's office and be given a coupon that allows you to take possession of the gun. You will then return to the dealer to complete the transaction. You will have to undergo a NICS check (instant background check) at the dealership before taking possession of the gun.

Rifle and shotgun purchases are much easier, requiring only the NICS check: no permit, no judge sign-off. The exception is semi-auto rifles, which require the same permitting as handguns, but not the approval of each individual purchase. If you think you will ever want a semi-auto rifle, you may as well get that endorsement on your handgun permit; there is no additional training or cost involved.

As for the politics, most gun shops, at least in my part of NY State, aren't vocal about it. They may have some posters on the wall, etc. but they are businesspeople who realize that liberals buy guns too. This is especially true of bigger chain stores, like Gander Mountain, who are more corporate and therefore less overtly political.

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Just go to a gun dealer. JohnSJ Jan 23 #1
Or gun show. NM Grins Jan 23 #27
Two Things I learned in CC class.. Hope22 Jan 23 #2
Or sign up with one of the various law firms that provide legal cover Aviation Pro Jan 23 #7
Try Bass Pro Shop Aviation Pro Jan 23 #3
I live in NYC, so I have no idea Polybius Jan 23 #4
get bear spray eShirl Jan 23 #5
Where were you on Jan 6, 2021? Renew Deal Jan 23 #16
A can of Raid H2O Man Jan 23 #50
At the gun shop, your money is the same color as everyone else's. MineralMan Jan 23 #6
I'm sure a shop will take my money. Du916 Jan 23 #18
Well, then, there's going to be a problem. MineralMan Jan 23 #19
Is it just guns? Cirsium Jan 23 #37
You would think so, but in the town I live in Mike 03 Jan 23 #25
Of course, the answer to that is CanonRay Jan 23 #35
That is absolutely the correct answer. MarineCombatEngineer Jan 24 #64
A large sporting goods store probably carries them ibegurpard Jan 23 #8
That's a good point Renew Deal Jan 23 #15
They are not as bad as a rightwing psycho shop. Bluethroughu Jan 23 #26
You have never bought a gun in your life Dumpy Jan 23 #9
I second this. Dan Jan 23 #24
Third this even as a gun owner and pro 2nd amendment person. You NEVER want to put yourself in a situation where kelly1mm Jan 24 #54
Not sure there's any "progressive" gun stores DeepWinter Jan 23 #10
Most gun shop owners/employees rightly assume a person coming into the store to buy a gun likes guns. sop Jan 24 #77
uh huh Skittles Jan 23 #11
Anywhere that anyone else does Renew Deal Jan 23 #12
Take a class before you buy a gun WhiskeyGrinder Jan 23 #13
Also, some gun ranges let you rent Renew Deal Jan 23 #14
I'll just take 'em from the people who want to shoot me if it comes to that. hunter Jan 23 #17
Get a snow shovel Cirsium Jan 23 #20
lol Sailingfish Jan 23 #51
parking lot of the local high school? nt msongs Jan 23 #21
Local gun shop. Internet and FFL transfer. Its not difficult; and I salute you for wanting to arm yourself. nt LexVegas Jan 23 #22
I think I know what this means Mike 03 Jan 23 #28
What would happen if you simply answered "your vote and my vote are private." spooky3 Jan 23 #30
I don't recall seeing that question Fla_Democrat Jan 23 #36
I'm not sure what makes you think that ever comes up EX500rider Jan 24 #57
I admit Timewas Jan 24 #78
one step at a time.... CuriousSavage Jan 23 #23
Nothing beats a hydrogen bomb. hunter Jan 23 #39
What about if you are a minority woman, and could be clocked as transgender? DSandra Jan 24 #67
The decision is yours alone CuriousSavage Jan 24 #79
Good comments and advice, but... Wuddles440 Jan 24 #72
Thank you CuriousSavage Jan 24 #80
Uh huh. maxsolomon Jan 23 #29
have you noticed the quality is getting worse and worse Skittles Jan 23 #31
They still reel the responses in. maxsolomon Jan 23 #33
a lot of them made excuses for that gun humping psycho killer Mangione Skittles Jan 23 #38
See if you have a Academy Sports store in your area EX500rider Jan 23 #32
Sounds like there is more to the story orangecrush Jan 23 #34
FWIW, I agree with you. Renew Deal Jan 23 #40
Exactly orangecrush Jan 23 #41
Please!! Rainman4u2C Jan 23 #42
I've had a gun with a trigger safety Mountainguy Jan 23 #46
are you talking about a handgun? sweetapogee Jan 23 #43
Exactly right. You don't need a red dot sight, or any other optic or sights on a handgun Mountainguy Jan 23 #45
Just a FYI... Wuddles440 Jan 24 #69
here's two online I've used. They ship to a registered dealer near. Hotler Jan 23 #44
I'd add... Wuddles440 Jan 24 #74
As a liberal Democrat who is gun owner and lives in NY State, I have some insight into this situation. Straw Man Jan 23 #47
Upstate NY'er here. amerikat Jan 23 #52
Hello. Straw Man Jan 24 #58
Thanks. (nt) amerikat Jan 24 #75
Michael Cargill is a gay Black Democrat who owns Central Texas Gun Works cadoman Jan 23 #48
I follow him on X Fla_Democrat Jan 23 #53
According to his wiki, he's a Log Cabin Republican so I don't know. LoveSucky Jan 24 #61
I know a guy who knows a guy JoseBalow Jan 23 #49
heh Skittles Jan 24 #55
Some of them, probably JoseBalow Jan 24 #56
Anywhere in Texas DFW Jan 24 #59
I would highly recommend pepper spray instead. Oneironaut Jan 24 #60
While pepper/chemical spray is a decent... Wuddles440 Jan 24 #70
Anywhere that sells them. Patton French Jan 24 #62
I don't blame you. The Grand Illuminist Jan 24 #63
Any store that sells guns. Pawn shopps, sporting goods stores. Gun stores are Autumn Jan 24 #65
I know of at least one progressive that will give CC classes sarisataka Jan 24 #66
When you buy any product at all, there's about a 50/50 chance the business is owned by someone on the right. 99MainSt Jan 24 #68
Most gun shops are going to be very right wing. Happy Hoosier Jan 24 #71
A gun dealer. I was just thinking aloud this morning wondering if I should buy a gun. I owned one once Vinca Jan 24 #73
At a gun store? emulatorloo Jan 24 #76
Just came across this reddit thread that answers your question Renew Deal Jan 25 #81
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