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Scubamatt

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134. I'm glad

Tue Jan 28, 2025, 11:23 AM

Jan 28

to see this post. I have been asking this same question, but have been shouted down by some members who believe that we should just passively play along with all this, keep our heads down and our powder dry and not rock the boat until the mid terms because that is how politics are. To be absolutely clear, I will always vote blue, but our leadership could learn a thing or two from our opponents about how to keep their base engaged and energized. Most of our leaders really don't know how to do that (with SOME exceptions). And, if we are to persuade this country that the situation is as bad as we said it would be during the election (and I thinks its worse), we better be regularly pushing back with at least counter-messaging, even if we don't have the legislative power at this time. We need leaders to guide and shape this opposition, however, because as another post points out, Trump's strategy is to be a chaos agent and flood the public discourse with so much &*^%$# that we can't focus on anything. Democratic leaders, if you're listening, PLEASE pick a message, and then identify the 3-4 most important issues around which we build that message, and then keep hammering it every day, in speeches, appearances, social media posts, talk shows, etc.

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Where the fuck are the Democrats? [View all] boston bean Jan 27 OP

So much for resist NT Tickle Jan 27 #1

EVERYONE STOP FIGHTING EACHOTHER! Bluethroughu Jan 27 #103

This is a great way to begin a general strike, but they must be open ended as well. Magoo48 Jan 28 #146

Of course...I just would like us all to support eachother and value Bluethroughu Jan 28 #148

Yes, I agree. I think we see this in much the same way. If it's a peaceful action, I more than likely support it. Magoo48 Jan 28 #152

Me too. Bluethroughu Jan 28 #158

Im sure my credit card company will be completely understanding bluevoter4life Jan 28 #149

We can be more positive. I want to see Pete on TV. Festivito Jan 28 #164

I feel very alone right now. Mad_Machine76 Jan 27 #2

There is absolutely no leadership. boston bean Jan 27 #4

I was hoping Mad_Machine76 Jan 27 #8

The tenor & tone was set early, when ex Speaker (but still power core) Pelosi put paid to AOC's bid for Ranking Member Celerity Jan 27 #34

He looks like a cadaver wolfie001 Jan 27 #63

So afraid that they'd rather see the country turn into a fascist hellhole, apparently. It pisses me the fuck off. Karasu Jan 27 #74

If only the meek would follow the example of the strong. Magoo48 Jan 28 #157

Holy shit. Brenda Jan 28 #121

Doing a job on us,not a job for us. BattleRow Jan 27 #55

Bingo. You answered your own question ... and KPN Jan 27 #68

It's a vacuum NEOBuckeye Jan 27 #72

And what should leadership be doing? krawhitham Jan 28 #130

They should be leading by example. Shipwack Jan 28 #140

Republicans controlled house at that point, what do we control? Not the ability to force a vote on anything krawhitham Jan 28 #144

1000 recs Cirsium Jan 28 #162

Democrats can't have votes on things moose65 Jan 28 #169

That is so insulting Cirsium Jan 28 #154

Do you think the GOP would be saying that if it were a Democrat doing all of this? hadEnuf Jan 28 #155

kraw, you answered your own question Bobstandard Jan 28 #187

Much of what he's doing is not legal. choie Jan 28 #188

Throwing a fit in the media would be a good start. choie Jan 28 #189

Yes, show their asses on TV non-stop and vent like the GOP does non-stop against us! tableturner Jan 28 #192

The half dozen who are stepping up are being mocked by the silence and inaction of the rest. Magoo48 Jan 28 #160

At least we're together in our aloneness. Intractable Jan 27 #7

I found DU in the depths of the Bush era Mad_Machine76 Jan 27 #14

The silence is deafening MustLoveBeagles Jan 27 #13

Maybe they're sitting back and allowing BonnieJW Jan 27 #50

But in terms of what it would do to whathehell Jan 27 #104

Some can Cirsium Jan 28 #207

I feel you. And you're not alone in feeling alone. Alice B. Jan 27 #52

Scared that Republicans will put them in prison DSandra Jan 28 #151

Working on their stock portfolios. CentralMass Jan 27 #3

I'm not too happy with them either MustLoveBeagles Jan 27 #5

Hell if I know. Politics Girl and others are yelling about their absolute silence. CousinIT Jan 27 #6

working? stillcool Jan 27 #9

I want leadership. Not silence and acquiescence. boston bean Jan 27 #11

you want Chuck Schumer stillcool Jan 27 #18

I want to hear what they plan to do. boston bean Jan 27 #22

I can't quite believe it... stillcool Jan 27 #23

There are many ways to message resistance boston bean Jan 27 #28

I just saw Warren was on tv! stillcool Jan 27 #38

Wow. LOL boston bean Jan 27 #42

Bye orangecrush Jan 27 #45

Thank you! betsuni Jan 27 #71

Communication is not histrionics. The fact that you ridicule the notion that our leaders should communicate Scrivener7 Jan 27 #73

I ridicule the language being used... stillcool Jan 27 #78

You ridicule a question that is perfectly legitimate and try to shut down the discussion because you don't like it. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #93

I question the ridiculing of the Democratic party stillcool Jan 27 #96

The point of THIS OP is to ask where is the Democratic leadership. The question is legitimate. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #100

Pot meet kettle Cirsium Jan 28 #171

I am not attacking anyone stillcool Jan 28 #175

Backward Cirsium Jan 28 #179

your elected officials represent your state stillcool Jan 28 #185

Wrong Cirsium Jan 28 #193

Wrong. You elect your representatives stillcool Jan 28 #199

Good grief Cirsium Jan 28 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Jan 28 #201

They get blame because they do not fight like the GOP does, and they deserve it! tableturner Jan 28 #195

maybe a miilitia would be a better fix stillcool Jan 28 #197

Histrionics? Cirsium Jan 28 #165

How can there be a 'plan' stillcool Jan 28 #177

I was waiting orangecrush Jan 27 #44

her stillcool Jan 27 #48

Billionaire TV Inc will not let them build a resistance on their air. Justice matters. Jan 27 #98

So? Cirsium Jan 28 #174

The rooftop screaming has been echoing for years aka-chmeee Jan 28 #184

There are very obvious harmful things happening. We have never had this happen before. boston bean Jan 28 #186

Yes. Of course. I want Chuck Schumer to go on TV. Part of their job is communicating and leading the party. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #70

Chuck Schumer on tv.... stillcool Jan 27 #75

Then why did you spend all those posts ridiculing the notion, calling it "histrionics?" Scrivener7 Jan 27 #79

It was my tone, I think. boston bean Jan 27 #80

Given the situation and the near silence, I think your tone was perfectly appropriate. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #82

Ty. boston bean Jan 27 #83

I was responding to a post stillcool Jan 27 #90

These are our elected leaders. They need to lead. They have been silent during the worst crisis Scrivener7 Jan 27 #94

My Senators, and Congressman work for the people of my state. stillcool Jan 27 #99

Sarcasm noted, but yes. You were wrong to ridicule a plea for communication from our leaders during Scrivener7 Jan 27 #107

oh yeah...who are 'our' leaders? stillcool Jan 27 #111

Really? Cirsium Jan 28 #172

how original. stillcool Jan 28 #178

That is funny to you? Cirsium Jan 28 #180

yes it is...haven't heard it in years stillcool Jan 28 #182

The "job" Cirsium Jan 28 #147

My elected officials represent my state. stillcool Jan 28 #183

Nope Cirsium Jan 28 #196

And why can't they do it all? Going on TV doesn't work too well when ALL media is owned by the right wing. BComplex Jan 28 #161

some do... stillcool Jan 28 #181

Yup WTF are they? Clouds Passing Jan 27 #10

We are here. We are the Dems. Stop bellyaching and do something. I just attended a small group meeting held in Jit423 Jan 28 #210

Fantastic ideas Clouds Passing Jan 28 #217

Strategizing. They know what to do about as much as you do. Pushback is one play. Better make it a good one. /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 27 #12

If the Republicans were in the minority Mad_Machine76 Jan 27 #15

Totally agree, Scubamatt Jan 28 #135

One play? Mad_Machine76 Jan 27 #16

Strategizing? choie Jan 27 #25

Strategizing? Seriously? Orrex Jan 27 #67

So much for strategizing during the last election... DSandra Jan 28 #153

The three that jump out to me are all women. LuvLoogie Jan 27 #17

Warren was just on Jen Psaki's show. I think she's good, too. electric_blue68 Jan 27 #21

Then you haven't been watching Jamie Raskin True Dough Jan 27 #36

I've been calling my Senators every day...crickets. likesmountains 52 Jan 27 #19

It's a question I've been asking since election night. NewHendoLib Jan 27 #20

It's astonishing. choie Jan 27 #24

Only a select few kacekwl Jan 27 #26

They're not the ones that will suffer choie Jan 27 #27

you may be sure to note they have jacked up their money begging again via text and msongs Jan 27 #29

I've blocked all the fundraising emails and texts. AllyCat Jan 27 #66

Now when they ask for money, tonekat Jan 28 #145

they have a lot of nerve Skittles Jan 27 #76

Cashing in stocks before the crash? we can do it Jan 27 #30

This centrist populism behavior is why we're in trouble. Emile Jan 27 #31

Asking our leaders to communicate with us is centrist behavior? Do tell. Scrivener7 Jan 27 #97

Nice spin Emile Jan 28 #118

I am pretty sure that is not what Emile meant at all when they referred to centrist behaviour. Celerity Jan 28 #206

Many are behind their keyboards asking me for money. n/t tinymontgomery Jan 27 #32

Yep They sent timms139 Jan 27 #89

Composing a strongly worded letter? nt R. P. McMurphy Jan 27 #33

They know we don't have a country anymore, what is the point of incurring his wrath? Wingus Dingus Jan 27 #35

If the plan is to just not have a country anymore boston bean Jan 27 #39

There is no message. They're baffled and feeling their way around in the dark Wingus Dingus Jan 27 #40

Call Dems, not just your own rep, leave messages vapor2 Jan 27 #37

They're asking for money. milestogo Jan 27 #41

Those phony surveys. But instead of a submit button, you get sent to ActBlue. Alice B. Jan 27 #86

Every. Single. Time. milestogo Jan 28 #124

Responses to the fundraiser emails won't get handed over to the legislators FakeNoose Jan 28 #198

Why are you telling me this? milestogo Jan 28 #203

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 27 #43

How are you personally holding them accountable??? KatjeD Jan 27 #46

Welcome KatjeD JMCKUSICK Jan 27 #51

Why would you assume we are not doing these things? Scrivener7 Jan 27 #77

At this point there is not a lot that can be done Nigrum Cattus Jan 27 #47

The Republicans don't have that problem Cirsium Jan 28 #173

Maybe they're looking to Moaning Joe for guidance JMCKUSICK Jan 27 #49

Even Republican Adam Kinzinger is asking where they are. Nanjeanne Jan 27 #53

Some say, keep the powder dry or it's someone elses turn PurgedVoter Jan 27 #54

Problem solving with their FRIENDS across the aisle. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 27 #56

LESSONS barbiegeek Jan 27 #57

That's forbidden knowledge. Oneironaut Jan 27 #58

It's infuriating. This really is a constitutional crisis Arazi Jan 27 #59

Maybe the 'plan' is to let Trump run it off the rails. harumph Jan 27 #60

Yep. The plan is let the morons who believed the felon's promises (groceries...) Justice matters. Jan 27 #105

First, getting their securities trades in order. flvegan Jan 27 #61

Post removed Post removed Jan 27 #62

The chair is elected. It's a vote. Pelosi didn't "pick" anyone. Conspiracy theory. betsuni Jan 27 #69

They lost, as everyone keeps reminding us, what they didn't do and should've done and betsuni Jan 27 #64

No one is expecting a fix. boston bean Jan 27 #65

I've seen Jamie Raskin EVERYWHERE EVERY DAY this week. I've seen Jasmine Crockett and AOC. LauraInLA Jan 27 #101

Thank you. sheshe2 Jan 28 #116

ive gotten a couple of fund raising texts in the past 2 days moonshinegnomie Jan 27 #81

Being mostly ignored by media as usual. bullimiami Jan 27 #84

We Need New Blood! Daleuhlmann Jan 27 #85

Right where we voted them qazplm135 Jan 27 #87

They're not powerless. They are the leaders of half the country. And we have not heard a word from Scrivener7 Jan 27 #95

Hearing a word stops what? qazplm135 Jan 28 #115

I don't understand the obsession with leadership. Do people really need to be told what to do, betsuni Jan 28 #117

If the people thought we needed to start over...? kentuck Jan 27 #88

i agree. Where are they? samsingh Jan 27 #91

Hakeem Jeffries Karch Jan 27 #92

I don't even know what this means XanaDUer2 Jan 28 #136

Voters removed from the rolls Beck23 Jan 27 #102

We are the party. The party is us. oldmanlynn Jan 27 #106

Post removed Post removed Jan 27 #108

Remember when there was an announcement that a big thing was going to be unveiled? And it turned out to be NBachers Jan 27 #109

"Where the fuck are the Democrats?" LudwigPastorius Jan 27 #110

Asking Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger what to do. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 27 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jan 27 #113

On his Countdown podcast KO said. Hassler Jan 28 #114

Agree Meowmee Jan 28 #119

I see them fighting to the extent they can in the minority. Patton French Jan 28 #120

I agree. They are there to do a job. It's our job to bitch and moan. LeftInTX Jan 28 #123

Well, with all this hate, this sounds like Palestinians versus Israel. LeftInTX Jan 28 #122

As others have said, the plan may be to let Trump go off the rails TBF Jan 28 #125

Post removed Post removed Jan 28 #126

Fighting with each other as usual. MineralMan Jan 28 #127

I hate to say it, but I have to ask the same question. LW1977 Jan 28 #128

can you imaine how hard it is for the Dem Lawmakers to HAVE to be in samnsara Jan 28 #129

No. It is in no way as hard for them as it is for us. boston bean Jan 28 #139

They're right here: The Senate has voted 97-0 to invoke cloture on the nomination of Sean Duffy Passages Jan 28 #131

We are supposed to chill out. God. Is. On. His. Throne. Irish_Dem Jan 28 #132

The only way to get their message through is to stand united, every Democratic lawmaker, and make a joint statement. Doodley Jan 28 #133

I'm glad Scubamatt Jan 28 #134

It's about damned time to ask this question. They appear mesmerized by the bullshit. flashman13 Jan 28 #137

I hear yeah but the American people put the Democrats in time out Takket Jan 28 #138

Does Hakim Jefferies appear to be backing down? Flash953 Jan 28 #141

Hmmm Cirsium Jan 28 #168

Post removed Post removed Jan 28 #142

Kick. Maru Kitteh Jan 28 #143

If Dems don't want to defend its constituents, let another party do it DSandra Jan 28 #150

I do not understand why anyone would advocate to "let another party do it" ... really? Oopsie Daisy Jan 28 #191

If people hate this fictional Democratic Party they believe in like a religion so much, I say join the third parties. betsuni Jan 28 #213

Preach! Praise! Amen sister! Oopsie Daisy Jan 28 #214

Same question here claudette Jan 28 #156

I'm here. I'm a Democrat. There is an advantage, in my view... NNadir Jan 28 #159

Our nation is facing the biggest constitutional crisis of our lifetimes. The country we knew is being dismantled. Doodley Jan 28 #163

Democrats have been very gutless kansasobama Jan 28 #166

Understand here on out: institutional resistance is going to do little... JCMach1 Jan 28 #167

Figuring out messaging to leverage citizen angst into cash flow into their coffers. TransitJohn Jan 28 #170

I think a large part Katcat Jan 28 #176

Be the change you want to see. Links... Hekate Jan 28 #190

Thank you SocialDemocrat61 Jan 28 #205

Thank you! betsuni Jan 28 #208

I wasn't going to come back to this thread. sheshe2 Jan 28 #211

Check today's news Lulu KC Jan 28 #194

Probably waiting for some other Democrat to do something. Progressive dog Jan 28 #202

I wrote to my new Rep Dave Min. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 28 #204

That's what I'd like to know. Susan Calvin Jan 28 #209

Don't forget that the "Bully Pulpit" is real - everything the blob says and does will get attention walkingman Jan 28 #212

The power of chaos -- the sheer number... pat_k Jan 28 #215

They are Pushing Back hannah Jan 28 #216