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DFW

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27. I know I SHOULD understand crypto by now
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:08 AM
May 25

But I don’t and really haven’t made a big effort to grasp it. Bitcoin’s jump from $20,000 to $100,000 in a few years can’t be denied, but I still don’t know how or where I could buy or sell one.

I’m woefully conservative in such matters. It took me decades to accept gold as a reserve of value, and this was many years after part of my job was assisting central banks around the world manage specific parts of their gold reserves. Gold pays no interest, can’t be eaten, lived in, or used to heat yourself in the winter. Its only practical uses that I could see were as jewelry and in electronics, but it couldn’t be denied that many civilizations had valued gold for millenia. Alexander the Great minted gold staters to pay his generals. The Roman emperors minted gold aurei for centuries, and Byzantium minted millions of gold solidi after that. Electronics may not have been a big consumer of gold in those days, but the use for jewelry was, and you didn’t need a computer access code to negotiate it. I don’t need a computer screen for some Central Bank to show me a thousand hundred-year-old twenty dollar gold pieces or British gold sovereigns. The ask me to the vault because I can spot fakes when I hold them in my hand. They are really there.

When people come on here and tell me they are down 200% of an investment, I start to lose confidence in their ability to convince me of their grasp of the subject. If you have an uninsured house, and you lose it in an earthquake, a hurricane or a tornado, you lose up to 100% of it. That’s it. You can’t lose it again.

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Crypto is BS PJMcK May 24 #1
IMHO, it's nothing more than an electronic Ponzi scheme. nt Phoenix61 May 24 #3
Absolutely! SheltieLover May 24 #4
Nine for me either. Except for its demand, it's a worthless asset. surfered May 24 #2
our problem is not crypto, thats just the greediest bastards in the universe tool .... pbmus May 24 #5
The problem is the greediest assholes in the universe are worse than ever. Initech May 24 #8
If we survive till midterms and pbmus May 24 #13
The biggest priority should be de-Foxing our government. Initech May 24 #17
Fox has few viewers compared to podcasts womanofthehills May 25 #24
But the power they wield in the American government is insane. Initech May 25 #25
It's too close to Ponzi. There is nothing behind it, it's just a bunch of tulips. marble falls May 24 #6
Don't disagree, but the same is true times10 regarding the U.S. dollar with almost NOTHING behind it!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 24 #10
Completely Untrue ProfessorGAC May 24 #14
Guess we'll see about that when tRump's global financial policies lead to hyper-inflation & financial collapse... InAbLuEsTaTe May 24 #18
Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe May 24 #21
Exactly. DFW May 25 #32
The people who are getting rich off crypto are people who you wouldn't trust with 15 cents. Initech May 24 #7
Crypto preferred by 10/10 KentuckyWoman May 24 #9
In the words of Paul Krugman: FalloutShelter May 24 #12
I guess I'm the loan voice of dissent k_buddy762 May 24 #11
Wait A Second ProfessorGAC May 24 #15
Well, I see it as a long term thing k_buddy762 May 24 #19
How does something fall 200%? fujiyamasan May 25 #26
PUFF Cosmocat May 25 #34
I think the expectation is that bitcoin's price will continue to rise fujiyamasan May 25 #31
Lone, not loan voice. PoindexterOglethorpe May 24 #22
I have some crypto- planning on buying more womanofthehills May 25 #23
If you don't mind me shilling Cosmocat May 25 #35
Interesting k_buddy762 May 25 #36
That's smart. Best to never invest what you can't afford to lose fujiyamasan May 27 #39
You just don't understand the technology/miracle of blockchain/modern investing/money/strategic thinking/the future/econ hatrack May 24 #16
Wise! LearnedHand May 24 #20
I know I SHOULD understand crypto by now DFW May 25 #27
Maybe they were trading on margin fujiyamasan May 25 #29
A margin call would do it, however... DFW May 25 #30
Weird story fujiyamasan May 25 #28
I equate cryto-currency with the derivatives that were so popular 20+ years ago. no_hypocrisy May 25 #33
Posting this past a lot of discussion on crypto, I just wanted to emphasize the danger. usonian May 25 #37
These are magic numbers that are transformed into new magic numbers when you sell them. hunter May 25 #38
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