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Jirel

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5. Nope. This call to water down protest is old nonsense.

Reply to Radical Lutheran (Original post)

Sun Jun 8, 2025, 07:02 PM

Jun 8

Oh, please don’t upset people! Please don’t wear BLM shirts! Please don’t block traffic! Please don’t wave Mexican flags! Please don’t t engage with the opposition! Please don’t wear face masks! Please don’t… please don’t… please don’t…

We are done with the scared Karens. Protest is not about winning allies. It never was. It’s about galvanizing the resistance and discomforting the comfortable. It’s about engaging some thinking about why people would take those risks. Think the Boston Tea Party was about making friends? The lunch counter protests? The suffragettes disrupting… dinner? Stonewall? The labor struggles? Resistance at every RNC?

This is your opportunity to engage with the many successful struggles of the past that were not all that “civil,” but were ultimately successful. Your personal discomfort with a protestor’s message only begs the question about who you are willing to stand with, when you are most needed.

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Protesting is Great. BUT WHY carry Mexican Flags? This will not gain supporters... [View all] Radical Lutheran Jun 8 OP

I hate to agree senseandsensibility Jun 8 #1

In NYC today, it was the Puerto Rican Day Parade no_hypocrisy Jun 8 #2

Puerto Rico is a US Commonwealth, big difference, on edit, unincorporated territory of the USA Shellback Squid Jun 8 #3

This Dorian Gray Jun 8 #10

I see Cirsium Jun 8 #12

the message is different but if you don't understand that, oh well Shellback Squid Jun 8 #24

LBGQT obviously isn't another country. Are these protests in support of the country of Mexico?? still-prayin4rain Jun 9 #27

Absurd Cirsium Jun 9 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 9 #37

Fly a Mexican flag Dorian Gray Jun 9 #39

You are working hard at this Cirsium Jun 9 #72

I mean..... Dorian Gray Jun 9 #124

Now you see the problem. Tootbsb Jun 9 #65

When you see them in mass at kacekwl Jun 9 #77

This is a chronic problem Cirsium Jun 9 #78

El Pueblo de Nuestra Seora la Reina de los Angeles de Porcincula quaint Jun 9 #121

Say what? Cirsium Jun 8 #11

Territory but asked to be a state. Blue Full Moon Jun 9 #38

Indeed Cirsium Jun 9 #74

Canta y no llores. . . enid602 Jun 8 #4

Orale, vato JoseBalow Jun 8 #22

Nope. This call to water down protest is old nonsense. Jirel Jun 8 #5

Galvanizing resistance and winning allies are Scrivener7 Jun 9 #43

ITA JustAnotherGen Jun 9 #45

I get the message Cirsium Jun 9 #94

Your message seems to be 'don't' Bobstandard Jun 9 #114

Maga people don't give a shit if American soldiers Scrivener7 Jun 10 #137

. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #79

Sounds serious Torchlight Jun 8 #6

Unbelievable Cirsium Jun 8 #7

nobody is upset by the Mexican flag Dorian Gray Jun 9 #126

What will the dumbasses think? Cirsium Jun 9 #127

Apparently protest organizers are passing out American flags now, Dorian Gray Jun 9 #135

"My messaging?" Cirsium Jun 10 #136

in this thread yes Dorian Gray Jun 10 #138

Because our Mexican residents are being denied due process nini Jun 8 #8

Hmmm... Cirsium Jun 8 #9

People who carry Ukraine flags Mossfern Jun 8 #13

Thank you. Abolishinist Jun 8 #14

Mexican flags? Cirsium Jun 8 #16

If you say so. Abolishinist Jun 8 #18

I'm curious, too MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #81

Amazing Cirsium Jun 8 #15

Around what? Mossfern Jun 8 #17

So says you Cirsium Jun 9 #92

I think you may not understand Mossfern Jun 9 #110

A reply Cirsium Jun 9 #115

I criticise Mexican flags only Mossfern Jun 9 #119

Understood Cirsium Jun 9 #120

because of op-eds like this one Dorian Gray Jun 10 #139

No surprise there Cirsium Jun 10 #142

No. It is the humane thing to do. Ms. Toad Jun 10 #141

THANK YOU... You read my message as intended. Radical Lutheran Jun 9 #25

No Cirsium Jun 9 #82

Trump has threatened to bomb Mexico, the flags support Mexico. It's not that hard to see why they bring them Blues Heron Jun 9 #53

California once belonged to Mexico. Los Angeles was founded hundreds of years ago by the Spaniards.... Hekate Jun 8 #19

In that respect it is stolen land. thought crime Jun 9 #40

In that case perhaps we should carry a white flag when confronting fascists? Hekate Jun 9 #47

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough thought crime Jun 9 #83

Taco flags would piss the orange slob even more newdeal2 Jun 8 #20

"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's minds & Ping Tung Jun 8 #21

Oh no! Do you feel divided? JoseBalow Jun 8 #23

Sometimes, you just have to throw chests of tea into the water. Tarzanrock Jun 9 #26

They are not trying to gain supporters Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #28

It's a slippery slope Polybius Jun 9 #32

If the treatment of these folks Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #34

How can you tell MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #84

I understand now that I could have wrote it better Polybius Jun 9 #85

What I mean is, how could anyone tell MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #90

20+ years Cirsium Jun 9 #96

You can't Polybius Jun 9 #101

We won't gain their freedom without gaining supporters. Scrivener7 Jun 9 #44

America has proven Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #46

Both of us are making it about the flag in this conversation. It's a conversation about the flag. Scrivener7 Jun 9 #48

America makes it about symbolism Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #49

We are both aware of how he got elected, and we both mourn it. We both protest to support the Hispanic community. Scrivener7 Jun 9 #50

Look at the pictures of people in chains being shipped overseas Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #55

So, right now there is a choice. We Democrats can either bemoan what is happening and blame each other, or we can Scrivener7 Jun 9 #60

Fear and hate are powerful motivators Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #66

We have to agree to disagree on the best way to move our mutual goals forward. Scrivener7 Jun 9 #97

. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #88

No Cirsium Jun 9 #99

You have no idea where my ass has been and no, I don't Scrivener7 Jun 9 #122

The national anthem somethingshiny Jun 9 #118

Seriously?. Ask Neville about this NoRethugFriends Jun 9 #29

I thought the same thing, but was afraid to post it Polybius Jun 9 #30

It's not a claudette Jun 9 #31

No one said it was Mossfern Jun 9 #117

If you went into Mexico and started waving an American flag, Nixie Jun 9 #33

The message? Cirsium Jun 9 #113

One would really have to go out of their way to make Nixie Jun 9 #132

Huh? Cirsium Jun 9 #134

It's dumb, but there are just always going to be brainless agitators in every crowd. Wingus Dingus Jun 9 #35

Exactly MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #89

If it is RW waving them, why don't the legitimate protesters seize and destroy them ? MichMan Jun 9 #108

Post removed Post removed Jun 9 #36

You seem concerned. n/t demmiblue Jun 9 #41

It's bad optics. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 9 #42

I wonder why? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 9 #91

Far more attention Cirsium Jun 9 #128

Okay where is the due process Keepthesoulalive Jun 9 #51

What if Jan 6th insurrectionists were beating cops with the Russian or doc03 Jun 9 #52

They didn't disown the ones with the confederate flag EdmondDantes_ Jun 9 #59

I saw a Confederate flag and Trump flags one doc03 Jun 9 #111

Trump has threatened to bomb Mexico - of course the mexican flag will be flown at protests Blues Heron Jun 9 #54

Bullshit Basso8vb Jun 9 #56

Exactly! AStern Jun 9 #64

It's also like people conveniently forgot about the January 6th rioters beating police officers with American flags. Basso8vb Jun 9 #75

I want videos of the Feds charging into a sea of American flags Nittersing Jun 9 #57

Go for it Blues Heron Jun 9 #58

I also want them to have to fight against and shoot at their own flag. Scrivener7 Jun 9 #62

This is gaslighting - you're invalidating the protesters. AStern Jun 9 #61

Some Angelenos think Mexico should get their land back flamingdem Jun 9 #63

I'd love to hear JustAnotherGen Jun 9 #104

I agree Littlered Jun 9 #67

Just don't set cars on fire. Media is eating that up. fmdaddio Jun 9 #68

They are protesting out of passion... kentuck Jun 9 #69

How kind of you to join the site and tell everyone how to properly fight authoritarianism AStern Jun 9 #71

This is unnecessarily snarky Nittersing Jun 9 #86

At least I didn't sign up and start an OP telling the site that they're doing it all wrong. AStern Jun 9 #87

It's just another freaking flag. I'm a Lutheran and I don't get mad at the Germans, Nowegian, Swedish flags ... marble falls Jun 9 #73

The Mexican Flag is more symbolic of freedom these days. LuvLoogie Jun 9 #76

Mixing in some American flags would help the effort. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 9 #80

Do it Blues Heron Jun 9 #102

I attended the Women's March. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 9 #130

Wow quite the Discussion about a simple observation Radical Lutheran Jun 9 #93

Different opinions can appear aggressive Torchlight Jun 9 #98

Cool story bro Blues Heron Jun 9 #105

If you don't want to fight each other, just support the protestors and not tell them what you don't like. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 9 #112

It helps to understand the history of Mexican oppression... AntiFascist Jun 9 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 9 #100

Celebrating St Patrick's day is one thing, but flying an Irish flag isn't going to gain supporters. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 9 #103

What sort of help are you talking about? Klarkashton Jun 9 #106

Bad Idea OC375 Jun 9 #107

People are pissed, they aren't thinking, plus these are spontaneous, no one is leading CanonRay Jun 9 #109

Nope. People who participate can do so as they please. MineralMan Jun 9 #116

THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY Skittles Jun 9 #123

Bingo! With the right of free speech. marble falls Jun 9 #129

Would it make you happy mercuryblues Jun 9 #125

I'd say torching cars was a bad look also EX500rider Jun 9 #131

Whatever. LuvLoogie Jun 9 #133

Maybe they're just throwing their hat into the ring to be the 52nd state? egduj Jun 10 #140

Fortunately, and unfortunately Sugarcoated Jun 10 #143