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pinkstarburst

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32. I want to see how BOTH perform in the primaries
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 2025

I think there's the tendency to get overly focused on so-and-so, who could guarantee us this swing state for sure, or so-and-so could bring voters of this age, or whatever.

But we need to actually see how that candidate performs when they are running on their own in the primaries.

On paper, Kamala Harris is pretty much THE perfect candidate. But for whatever reason, democratic voters never warmed up to her in the 2020 primaries and we had low democratic turnout in 2024 compared to how dems turned out for Biden in 2020 (and we all know how that election turned out.)

When Hillary was looking to choose her VP, there was a lot of buzz around Julian Castro, saying he was young and Hispanic and could gain us huge turnout with young people and Hispanic voters. Clinton ultimately went with another choice. But then when Castro ran in the 2020 primaries, we observed that he couldn't even get to half a percentage point of support from voters. Being young and Hispanic himself did not automatically mean he was going to be a huge draw on the ticket for those demographics, or bring in votes.

So I realize that whoever wins in the primaries is the candidate and they're going to choose who they want. But choosing a running mate needs to be more than just about what state someone is from, or whether they're in the right age group or female or whatever. We could be soooo excited that Bob is going to get us Michigan because he's from Michigan, but if Bob can't even get 0.5% of the vote in the primary, Bob doesn't have the charisma or draw with voters on a national stage to add anything.

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Not bad at first glance EYESORE 9001 Jun 2025 #1
I read Betty Crocker at first glance! Iris Jun 2025 #47
My opinion also. Rep. Crockett, AOC and Rep. Raskin probably need to get to the Senate IMO first... brush Jun 2025 #53
Beshear maybe. Crockett no. I absolutely love her, but it doesn't feel like the right time. Vinca Jun 2025 #2
I love her but it is a no from me. We need a seasoned person. She is great but it is a no for me. Trueblue1968 Jun 2025 #39
I think Harris would have made an exceptional POTUS. It's a shame so many American voters are idiots. Vinca Jun 2025 #40
Kentuckian here. We love Andy Beshear! I don't sense that he's a great national figure, personality-wise, but we'll see. Music Man Jun 2025 #3
Agree 100% calguy Jun 2025 #7
How is a 2-term governor...the most popular Democratic governor in the nation not ready Wanderlust988 Jun 2025 #10
His resume get the red out Jun 2025 #12
Yes, the same as Bill Clinton. It's ludicrous for someone to say he's not ready to be president. Wanderlust988 Jun 2025 #29
It's not lucicrous at all to say he's not ready for the national stage calguy Jun 2025 #51
Two term Governor and 1term Attorney General bottomofthehill Jun 2025 #13
Don't get me wrong: EXCELLENT governor, would be an outstanding president. Music Man Jun 2025 #15
We'll have to see how ALL candidates handle a primary. Pritzer and Newsom haven't had a primary either. Wanderlust988 Jun 2025 #30
Correct. This is really all just a fun exercise pinkstarburst Jun 2025 #42
If he's so popular nationwide calguy Jun 2025 #24
He preaches against Trump everyday, but he doesn't have Chicago or LA media markets to help Wanderlust988 Jun 2025 #28
That's exactly my point calguy Jun 2025 #49
As Californian, Newsom, at times, has leaned too far to the demosincebirth Jun 2025 #33
Yes he has calguy Jun 2025 #50
He has a friendly demeanor. Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #14
He has a friendly demeanor but doesn't come across as mean-spirited Polybius Jun 2025 #46
Actually Jasmine is serving her second term. MagickMuffin Jun 2025 #34
I stand corrected. Thanks! Music Man Jun 2025 #37
Crockett should be aiming for house leadership IMO Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #4
completely agree... Javaman Jun 2025 #5
You don't think Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #16
I think she would be hard pressed to say no, but I think her talents would be much better utilized Javaman Jun 2025 #19
Yes but Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #22
Rep. Crockett is running for the Oversight Committee Chair MagickMuffin Jun 2025 #35
Beshear wouldn't even win Kentucky and Crocket would make sure we lose 46 states Prairie Gates Jun 2025 #6
Actually, I think he could win Kentucky. He's that popular here. I think Kentucky would be a battleground state. Wanderlust988 Jun 2025 #8
Too early. kentuck Jun 2025 #9
I love them both! get the red out Jun 2025 #11
As a Cincinnatian, I do too. Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #18
There are so many great Democrats - but my preference is a robust primary and I make my decision on the policies Nanjeanne Jun 2025 #17
You are quite right. At this early stage, this exercise is more of a party game than a serious discussion. Hekate Jun 2025 #20
It's not too early Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #21
It's too early to be this specific. maxsolomon Jun 2025 #23
Glad to be here. Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #25
Tough to read the tea leaves this far out Torchlight Jun 2025 #26
Crocket is POTUS material and at the right age, but I would much rather have her as Speaker of the House, ... marble falls Jun 2025 #27
I'd love for her to run for Cornyn seat and win MagickMuffin Jun 2025 #36
Cornyn might be tougher to beat than Paxton, who people loathe or love. Cornyn appeals to 'real' Republicans ... marble falls Jun 2025 #38
She'd lose by 20 points to either one of them Polybius Jun 2025 #44
Sez you. marble falls Jun 2025 #45
With my dire warnings and predictions from last year, I am well qualified to speak on this Polybius Jun 2025 #48
She couldn't win a statewide race in Texas to become a Senator Polybius Jun 2025 #43
We don't need another male president Pris Jun 2025 #31
I want to see how BOTH perform in the primaries pinkstarburst Jun 2025 #32
Absolutely not Crockett Polybius Jun 2025 #41
Way too early for this JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #52
I was thinking more along the lines of Alliepoo Jun 2025 #54
Absolute dream ticket Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #55
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