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AloeVera

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152. Hard but simple truths. Yet STILL ignored.

Reply to mjvpi (Reply #125)

Sat Aug 23, 2025, 07:11 PM

Aug 2025

Scapegoating will get us nowhere. The truth as you've so well put it must be faced. Will it?

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I wonder how the "can't vote for Kamala because of Gaza" folks are feeling now [View all] Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 OP

I hope they feel like sh*t, because I do. At some point US voters will realize walkingman Aug 2025 #1

I wonder how that POS Jill Stein feels. Initech Aug 2025 #6

I and certain she is having a great time mercuryblues Aug 2025 #7

If she's smart fujiyamasan Aug 2025 #90

She takes money from Putin, whether she's an actual spy or not ... I don't know FakeNoose Aug 2025 #8

Probably like Benny Johnson and Ben Shapiro - they get paid on the DL. Initech Aug 2025 #9

Pootie has money to burn FakeNoose Aug 2025 #14

Benny Johnson is the unlucky one? He has been rewarded with his own news blog site travelingthrulife Aug 2025 #108

He and Tim Pool both got caught for being paid by RT. Initech Aug 2025 #114

Which is why he started in the US with gun nuts and religious kooks not fooled Aug 2025 #131

Actually- she posts mostly about genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Aug 2025 #17

How many times has Jill Stein called for Hamas to immediately surrender so the war will end? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #38

Netanyahu wants that ocean front no matter who surrenders womanofthehills Aug 2025 #50

Bullshit. Hamas could negotiate the terms of their surrender. Hamas refuses. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #69

Fuck her Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #66

But no problem with what's happening in Ukraine NoRethugFriends Aug 2025 #79

She is an execrable piece of shit greenman3610 Aug 2025 #133

Our politicians can be bought on the cheap. CanonRay Aug 2025 #52

I wonder how the people who donated to her fake recount in 2016 feel MichMan Aug 2025 #77

So where are Jill Stein or Cornel West now? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #173

And Rep. Tlaib mcar Aug 2025 #174

I don't think I can say what I hope they feel, for fear of saying something too nasty. dem4decades Aug 2025 #2

I'm not sure they weren't a media creation FHRRK Aug 2025 #3

Netanyahu Gambled on a Trump Presidency. Will It Pay Off? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #4

Using Gaza as an excuse it's so fucking stupid I can't get over it Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #5

If Kamala had spoken more about peace she would have easily won womanofthehills Aug 2025 #20

No, she wouldn't have "easily won" crimycarny Aug 2025 #23

I refuse to respond to that person you're responding to. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #31

I wash my hands of it JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #53

Truth hurts. nt RandiFan1290 Aug 2025 #98

On Edit JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #100

Off topic (sorry), but your post gave me a real question that'd I'd never thought to ask before BlueSpot Aug 2025 #71

Impossible populist promises like "I'll bring peace to the Middle East!" "I'll bring back all the manufacturing jobs!" betsuni Aug 2025 #92

Ridiculous mcar Aug 2025 #46

Sometimes i wonder which ones are the russians Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #67

Anyone know any synonyms for transparent? NoRethugFriends Aug 2025 #80

Is Netanyahu secretly in cahoots with Putin? I guess we'll never know, but it sure looks like it FakeNoose Aug 2025 #10

Ya, both Netenyahu and the leaders of Hezbollah and Hamas have Moscow ties... haele Aug 2025 #35

If those people were of Palestinian heritage... ShadesOfBlue Aug 2025 #11

Not really - walkingman Aug 2025 #15

Dems are held to a higher standard because we're promoting problem solving haele Aug 2025 #42

So they didn't vote, or voted for the party of no standards --the GOP. Makes no sense. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #73

.. jfz9580m Aug 2025 #48

We live in the USA, not the Middle East. We are subjected to the rule of Trump. Everyone who lives here is! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #58

Good point!! Probably because under Trump they know they might be sent to the Gulag. walkingman Aug 2025 #85

Not protesting because no funding/being told what to do. Dark money and leadership. You know, "grassroots." betsuni Aug 2025 #94

+ 1000 AloeVera Aug 2025 #101

They were mostly white, Latino, ME and Asian. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #123

NOPE Skittles Aug 2025 #142

I assume, unless they were personally and directly impacted, that their attitude is unchanged. IOW BootinUp Aug 2025 #12

When I saw Trump call himself and Netanyahu "war heroes" yesterday, my first thought was... W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #13

I thought of Tulsi Gabbard calling Hillary "Queen of the Warmongers," but war is fun now! heroes! betsuni Aug 2025 #95

They are busy blaming Democrats for not stopping Trump Nixie Aug 2025 #99

I had a good friend who voted for Jill Stein. Grumpy Old Guy Aug 2025 #16

Prob the same as the people that wouldn't let the Palestinian Dem officials speak at the DNC. Eko Aug 2025 #18

Probbably not. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #39

I mean your probably right. Eko Aug 2025 #45

Right, if only we had let them get on stage and accuse Kamala of supporting genocide! SunSeeker Aug 2025 #51

But of course that was not what they were going to do. Eko Aug 2025 #54

Why should the "Uncommited" movement spokespeople get precious time at the DNC? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #62

So there weren't massacres in Gaza? Eko Aug 2025 #68

It is a LIE to suggest Biden was not trying to stop the killing in Gaza. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #72

Their people were/are dying. Eko Aug 2025 #75

Biden tried repeatedly to get a ceasefire. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #83

We can all tell ourselves nice bedtime stories. AloeVera Aug 2025 #130

He did not end it, he paused it and resumed it. Eko Aug 2025 #155

Ummm, that's untrue. Some Americans did have family members KPN Aug 2025 #136

I was being sarcastic. Eko Aug 2025 #154

Oh, hell. And here I thought you were being an KPN Aug 2025 #158

Fuck 'em. They are beneath contempt. Unforgivable. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #19

Political purists like the Bernie Bros didn't help either. ananda Aug 2025 #21

I've never ever considered voting for a Republican in my life DSandra Aug 2025 #29

Bernie pleaded for his supporters to vote for Kamala DSandra Aug 2025 #32

Prophetic. usonian Aug 2025 #57

Thanks for posting this, excerpt from the transcript ... cliffside Aug 2025 #64

Good for Bernie. Did Kamala say this too? AloeVera Aug 2025 #156

That was such a needless straw man. LisaM Aug 2025 #22

Well, there WERE close to 50,000 dead Palestinians... AloeVera Aug 2025 #143

No. But it was a straw man for the election. LisaM Aug 2025 #157

It doesn't work like that. AloeVera Aug 2025 #159

Yes it was. The history and facts are well known. Blaming Democrats is disinformation, lies used to betsuni Aug 2025 #160

Sad but true marti Aug 2025 #24

They value Palestinians more than Americans DSandra Aug 2025 #25

Netanyahu and Putin are still playing them. nt SunSeeker Aug 2025 #36

That was never many people quakerboy Aug 2025 #26

Last I checked, they spend very little time mentioning Trump. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #43

What made a huge difference was social media womanofthehills Aug 2025 #115

Lets refight old wars. Buzz cook Aug 2025 #27

Mostly dead! And Eisenhower wasn't Trump. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #56

Just about the falsest of false equivalencies NoRethugFriends Aug 2025 #81

I wasn't even born! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #148

Keep bringing it up wryter2000 Aug 2025 #28

I wonder how Harris and her advisors feel about not distancing herself from Biden, Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #30

+1 leftstreet Aug 2025 #37

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How else would you categorize the continual focus on wall street economy, Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #55

I don't know who the fuck you were listening to, she was NOT "focused on the Wall Street economy." SunSeeker Aug 2025 #61

You need to take a chill pill, Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #78

How about you "take a chill pill" and go back and listen to what Harris said? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #82

I have both listened to what she said Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #87

I am not "sticking fingers in my ears." I am calling out lies. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #89

1. They aren't lies. Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #112

The almost militant response to anyone disagreeing is not the way to get people on your side crimycarny Aug 2025 #140

I agree with you. Harris talked about all those things. LisaM Aug 2025 #170

lol, "the continual focus on wall street economy" PunkinPi Aug 2025 #93

Truth be told at last JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #164

You're correct on all counts, JAG... PunkinPi Aug 2025 #169

What's a "Wall Street economy"? betsuni Aug 2025 #113

When Biden (and Harris through most of her campaign) talk about how good the economy is, Ms. Toad Aug 2025 #117

"failing to shift from 401K economy to paycheck economy"? mcar Aug 2025 #110

Honestly dumber than MAGA D_Master81 Aug 2025 #33

What is several of your family members had been killed? iemanja Aug 2025 #74

Thousands of Israelis were slaughtered, raped, and kidnapped on Oct 6 mcar Aug 2025 #105

Probably because in light of 2 million iemanja Aug 2025 #119

there was tremendous outrage and sympathy Skittles Aug 2025 #147

And what if several of YOUR family members were killed in GAZA? Jilly_in_VA Aug 2025 #106

Why don't you explain the difference iemanja Aug 2025 #118

Right now Jilly_in_VA Aug 2025 #126

Seems like you are responding to a different thread. nt iemanja Aug 2025 #127

Nope Jilly_in_VA Aug 2025 #129

yes, it is dumb Skittles Aug 2025 #144

How do you suppose it feels iemanja Aug 2025 #145

WHAT IF!!! WHAT ABOUT!!!!!! Skittles Aug 2025 #146

And it will never end JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #163

Amen. Six117 Aug 2025 #34

You mean, how are the people who B.See Aug 2025 #40

Of course! They're still blaming Democrats! SunSeeker Aug 2025 #47

Too bad they failed to realize B.See Aug 2025 #49

6+ mil Democrats didn't vote Harris because Gaza? leftstreet Aug 2025 #41

Experts say 121,000 votes in 3 swing states (MI, PA & WI) were key in Harris' defeat. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #59

Just one of many reasons voters didn't turn out. Some not good on principle, including racism, misogyism, etc. marble falls Aug 2025 #76

This irritates me iemanja Aug 2025 #60

No, it absolutely shows understanding of history. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #65

Palestinians in Gaza were urging U.S. voters to vote for Kamala. PunkinPi Aug 2025 #96

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Just before the DNC in August- 40,000 Palestinian lives lost in Gaza: UN Human Rights Chief pleads for end to fighting cliffside Aug 2025 #84

Biden repeatedly tried to get a ceasefire. Hamas refused to lay down its arms. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #88

I hope they love getting their faces eaten by leopards sakabatou Aug 2025 #86

DNC should have made ads with Gaza carnage and blamed it on Trump. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #91

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"you guys" wow, such a clueless comment. The purity mongers Nixie Aug 2025 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Submariner Aug 2025 #103

It sucks when a member of your family did this cltap Aug 2025 #104

I bet they feel smug Bobstandard Aug 2025 #107

They were positively gleeful... PunkinPi Aug 2025 #111

Pretty sure I just read an article about them protesting Democrats for what travelingthrulife Aug 2025 #109

They were recently protesting Republicans too iemanja Aug 2025 #121

i was aginist her stance on Gaza. Ir was one of those "lesser of two evils" moments. I voted for her. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #116

Last convo with an old friend regarding her not voting for Hillary: "she knows where the levers of power are" and... Hekate Aug 2025 #120

Ha, knowing where the levers of power are. Hillary untrustworthy, the TPP Obama's diabolical plot to screw U.S. workers betsuni Aug 2025 #132

I know someone who still insists that the parties are no different from each other Quanto Magnus Aug 2025 #122

They feel just fine because they were GOP posing as liberals the whole time. DiamondShark Aug 2025 #124

I condemn what happened on Oct 7. I am sickened daily by what my country is facilitating in Gaza. mjvpi Aug 2025 #125

Hard but simple truths. Yet STILL ignored. AloeVera Aug 2025 #152

One of the growing list of things that we need to do as a nation to get our soul back. mjvpi Aug 2025 #161

I confess I didn't vote for Hillary in 2016, but not because I disagreed with 2 percent of her positions. generalbetrayus Aug 2025 #128

Ignored Mysterian Aug 2025 #134

Guilty, I hope. For contributing ... Dave says Aug 2025 #135

Same ones who refuse to read instructions before assembling a purchase -- Big DIY and Establishment IKEA betsuni Aug 2025 #137

I know a couple of them. cab67 Aug 2025 #138

I think many of them were just looking for an excuse ThoughtCriminal Aug 2025 #139

"even though the election was rigged," red dog 1 Aug 2025 #141

Scapegoating is the easy way out. AloeVera Aug 2025 #149

That's not why they didn't vote for her. Iggo Aug 2025 #150

I've seen a few of them. The founder of Muslims for Trump is one example rpannier Aug 2025 #151

If... myohmy2 Aug 2025 #153

Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #162

Many so very boo hoo angry at mommy and daddy Democrats. betsuni Aug 2025 #165

"Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake'" Cha Aug 2025 #167

MaddowBlog-Trump's new plan to 'take over' Gaza condemned as 'deranged' LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #166

They Were WARNED!! Cha Aug 2025 #168

US announces it is 'denying and revoking visas' for Palestinian officials ahead of UN General Assembly LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #171

But one person wasn't allowed to give a speech at the DNC so there was, like, no choice, you know, morally. betsuni Aug 2025 #172

Yes, that's all the DNC needed to do mcar Aug 2025 #175

Gaza postwar plan envisions 'voluntary' relocation of entire population LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #176