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stopdiggin

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98. I sorry. But it NEVER happened.

Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:56 AM

Nov 2025

There is not a shred of evidence for it (to this day !) . And insistence that it happened nonetheless - is where we veer off into conspiracy land.

And it really bothers that people on my side continue to ride this train. Makes us sound like a bunch of knuckle draggers ....
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My Spidey senses are acting up [View all] Aviation Pro Nov 2025 OP

No I think Americans got a wake up call Bluestocking Nov 2025 #1

Correct. The facts of 2025 trump the propaganda of 2024. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author off-the-clock Nov 2025 #126

Disagree. NoRethugFriends Nov 2025 #5

My theory is they don't fuck with the special elections and off-year elections, because yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #19

Or did Musk tell dumpie he wasn't going to help him anymore? KS Toronado Nov 2025 #40

Another possibility. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #42

Oh absolutely PatSeg Nov 2025 #50

We don't get to "rest easy" for awhile. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #63

Yes and once we are back in power, PatSeg Nov 2025 #75

Yes! yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #77

For sure! Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #64

Yes, the whole voter suppression PatSeg Nov 2025 #76

This is is why I feel like we have to start today, preparing people to vote Alice B. Nov 2025 #95

Why didn't they fix the Lake/Gallego race in AZ? BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #58

Because they had facts this time they didn't have last time. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #84

Agreed. It was a real confluence of bad stuff Hekate Nov 2025 #3

I agree, just like there was in 2020 obamanut2012 Nov 2025 #4

And we know they tried. Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #65

Here's some data Richluu Nov 2025 #6

not really data, but a complicated theory... and if Musk had this magic control LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #148

Honestly I'd point fingers at Texas and Florida for starters. Initech Nov 2025 #7

you'd have to be a damn fool to think NJCher Nov 2025 #8

"They lost because I wasn't on the ballot" tinrobot Nov 2025 #14

Yep Blue_Roses Nov 2025 #21

That is my assumption... returnee Nov 2025 #88

Vote tampering ms.pamela Nov 2025 #9

I'd like to see voting machines made illegal KS Toronado Nov 2025 #56

I agree. but... returnee Nov 2025 #89

That was always obvious. ananda Nov 2025 #10

Absolutely Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #11

But they just forgot to steal a single race this time? tritsofme Nov 2025 #12

It would be hard to cover up in elections of this nature IMHO. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2025 #15

Polls showed a close election in New Jersey, Virginia AG race too. Why not steal one? tritsofme Nov 2025 #17

Out of 50 states, how many had elections yesterday? rzemanfl Nov 2025 #25

33 states had elections yesterday. Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #32

Many. There were a lot of local elections. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #33

Why are you asking Democrats? Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #30

I'm just asking folks choosing to push ridiculous Trump-style conspiracy theories. tritsofme Nov 2025 #36

Yeah, Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #66

There were no national elections. hurple Nov 2025 #20

So they can steal the presidency but not a Virginia AG race? Pretty lousy supervillains. tritsofme Nov 2025 #22

I know, right? It's clear that it's not just MAGAs who are capable of convincing themselves Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #27

What's in it for the supervillains to have the AG of Virginia in their camp? rzemanfl Nov 2025 #29

The focus on Republicans being massively unpopular losers isn't exactly good for business. tritsofme Nov 2025 #35

A Republican AG n Virginia could effectively block a lot of progressive legislation which Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #49

I think you are giving this Republican AG magical powers. rzemanfl Nov 2025 #71

Yes. That is my theory. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #34

eLoon got what he wanted, no need to help this time ecstatic Nov 2025 #82

Not close enough tintinvotes Nov 2025 #85

Sounds like many have adopted Trump's axiom as their own, that elections are only legitimate when I win. tritsofme Nov 2025 #86

Not worth the risk of detection; plus maintain illusion of democracy. Possible. Nt lostnfound Nov 2025 #122

It's being discussed here, in a public forum. Why would detection be a concern in your conspiracy theory? tritsofme Nov 2025 #125

You misunderstood me and misrepresent my POV in last paragraph "as a vicious attack" lostnfound Nov 2025 #135

Don't you hate it when people put words in your mouth? yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #141

The judge's ruling in the Rockland County 2024 election fraud case is due before 11/11. in2herbs Nov 2025 #13

Mine too, for a different reason. The more it looks like the US is turning on the WH and GOP, the more wiggs Nov 2025 #16

Yes Blue_Roses Nov 2025 #18

Yep. It was stolen by the muskrat... MaeScott Nov 2025 #23

Then why didn't those same people "fuck around with the vote" this year? Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #24

How do you know they didn't? Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #31

OMG. I can't believe I'm reading such nonsense here. Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #44

It's just difficult for me to accept that folks can be that plain stupid. tritsofme Nov 2025 #55

I think it comes from people who can't wrap their heads around how much the country had soured on incumbents last year. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #59

there is also a basic inability (unwillingness) for people to admit stopdiggin Nov 2025 #102

Proof of a declaration is immaterial? Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #62

Yes. Virtually any declaration issuing forth from THIS individual stopdiggin Nov 2025 #97

It is more difficult to pull off in the off-year and smaller elections, and special elections. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #41

No. Absolutely not. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2025 #26

Voting machines were compromised. Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #48

I'm sorry, but I'm going with "our elections are honest." PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2025 #54

Have you read The Conyers Report? Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #67

I'm with you. A lot! yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #28

So elections are only rigged when Democrats lose? Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #46

I don't think Dems cheat. And, Trump ALWAYS cheats Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #106

Right. You could begin every sentence with Trump always cheats. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #142

Agree Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #37

I'm persuaded by Greg Palast's work: markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #38

Or it could be that voters in these states got a wake up call over the last few months fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #39

I was thinking the same goddamned thing Blue Owl Nov 2025 #43

Is this being reported by the media? NoNameGranny Nov 2025 #45

People where just angry at Trump/ICE/Gop's bs SunImp Nov 2025 #47

It's worth pointing out again that 2024 election denialism is actually a vicious attack on Kamala Harris and the entire tritsofme Nov 2025 #51

Off year elections would serve as pacification for anyone thinking the general elections contain malware ffr Nov 2025 #52

No RandySF Nov 2025 #53

Harris won. End of story. Botany Nov 2025 #57

There definitely were massive voter suppression efforts, massive propaganda operations LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #61

The vote flipping and deletions was done not at the precinct levels of which you are right would be unwork-... Botany Nov 2025 #70

you don't think anyone in the secretary of Dem state offices of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #74

Good questions, Botany Nov 2025 #91

couldn't that surge just be actual voters (since more Repubs tend to vote on election day)? LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #132

A large surge of red voters from a large strongly blue voting population @ the last minute? Please. Botany Nov 2025 #134

All the obvious anecdotes match up to all the simple math. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #143

A simple bell shaped curve for statical analysis will easily show causality behind the election results. Botany Nov 2025 #150

There you go! Seems simple when you look at the mathematical models. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #152

please provide a specific example of that kind of red surge in a blue area LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #147

You think someone from the sos office at the state level looks at every precinct result to see if it matches? questionseverything Nov 2025 #120

No, but wouldn't someone at the county level do that? Or are they in on the plot? LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #131

I sorry. But it NEVER happened. stopdiggin Nov 2025 #98

I hear you... Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #69

Musk had the technology. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #79

this is repeated by a lot of people that have no idea what the 'technology' is stopdiggin Nov 2025 #103

. Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #112

are you offering this as some species of 'evidence'? stopdiggin Nov 2025 #119

Perhaps you stopped reading... Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #123

Yawn. It really isn't worth my good time. (while repeating, "this is evidence ..?" ) - -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 2025 #124

Interesting. Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #140

Any election Democrats lose is rigged. iemanja Nov 2025 #60

Pretty tiring isn't it? fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #83

it's just plain sad. !!! - -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 2025 #100

. Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #116

I dunno Cirsium Nov 2025 #68

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #72

They will intensify efforts to disenfranchise... WestMichRad Nov 2025 #73

In '26, and '28 we need the brightest, wileyest White Hat Hackers keeping all eyes on the votes & totals, tabulaters etc electric_blue68 Nov 2025 #78

Yes. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #111

my theory AncientOfDays Nov 2025 #80

Exactly. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #113

DITTO!! BadGimp Nov 2025 #81

They've proved it already but have trouble selling it SupportSanity Nov 2025 #87

My gut's about the same Torchlight Nov 2025 #90

Based on what? themaguffin Nov 2025 #92

The economy is being wrecked, people feel it. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #93

Why didn't fElon help this time? Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #94

I don't think so. It just took a year or two of Trump in full swing to get out the vote, and persuade even many Martin68 Nov 2025 #96

I'm sorry - but it NEVER happened. And your twitchy 'senses' are leading you astray. stopdiggin Nov 2025 #99

I thought so too. I felt that way after Pennsylvania and Michigan went to Trump. It doesn't make sense. OLDMDDEM Nov 2025 #101

Like in 2024 obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2025 #104

Yup. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #105

Same thing happened 8 years ago krawhitham Nov 2025 #107

And then they forget how bad he is? n/t Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #130

Eforensic analysis says something aint right angryxyouth Nov 2025 #108

So since this is all so clearly documented and proven, you must be accusing Kamala of knowing tritsofme Nov 2025 #117

Yes I am angryxyouth Nov 2025 #136

At least you're honest, this contempt and hatred for Harris and Democrats appears widespread among election deniers tritsofme Nov 2025 #137

Sometimes the truth hurts angryxyouth Nov 10 #153

Yes. "They" use Russian-type psy-ops to convince people not to question elections, yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #144

Don't worry. Most of us realize that this is in NO way an attack on Dems. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #121

It is absolutely a vicious attack on Democrats. You must believe truly terrible things about Kamala Harris and Democrats tritsofme Nov 2025 #133

The problem is the premise is flawed fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #145

Interestingly... Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #146

That's one way to look at it, and I believe it to be true jmowreader Nov 2025 #109

Right. The analysis is easy. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #114

Wonder why trump and Elon didn't hack Tuesday's election? Silent Type Nov 2025 #110

Not worth it jmowreader Nov 2025 #115

Didn't happen in 2024 either. We lost. Was hoping Conspiracy Theories would stop, but nope. Silent Type Nov 2025 #118

Exactly. Analysis needs to be applied to the circumstances at the moment. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #138

I absolutely think that 2024 was stolen Metaphorical Nov 2025 #127

So simple and so obvious. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #139

Republicans are saying the same thing about Tuesday Polybius Nov 2025 #128

you'd be surprised just how much sexism / racism played into it Skittles Nov 2025 #129

Does that same logic apply to the 2010 elections? EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #149

Alot! Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #151