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In reply to the discussion: My Spidey senses are acting up [View all]fujiyamasan
(1,446 posts)145. The problem is the premise is flawed
There is no convincing evidence that Musk and Thiel hacked the election. The two are ass holes, but stealing several swing states (some of them with democratic governors and secretaries of state) is a very difficult task and would have required them having access to systems they wouldnt have.
Its also a red herring. The GOP has other (much simpler) ways of subverting democracy, like through mid decade gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement (number of ballot boxes, mail in ballot access, etc)
Getting hung up on nonsense like omg they stole an election because of the machines! is a distraction and takes away from the real fight.
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My theory is they don't fuck with the special elections and off-year elections, because
yellow dahlia
Nov 2025
#19
not really data, but a complicated theory... and if Musk had this magic control
LymphocyteLover
Nov 2025
#148
Polls showed a close election in New Jersey, Virginia AG race too. Why not steal one?
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#17
I'm just asking folks choosing to push ridiculous Trump-style conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#36
So they can steal the presidency but not a Virginia AG race? Pretty lousy supervillains.
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#22
I know, right? It's clear that it's not just MAGAs who are capable of convincing themselves
Wiz Imp
Nov 2025
#27
The focus on Republicans being massively unpopular losers isn't exactly good for business.
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#35
A Republican AG n Virginia could effectively block a lot of progressive legislation which
Wiz Imp
Nov 2025
#49
Sounds like many have adopted Trump's axiom as their own, that elections are only legitimate when I win.
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#86
Not worth the risk of detection; plus maintain illusion of democracy. Possible. Nt
lostnfound
Nov 2025
#122
It's being discussed here, in a public forum. Why would detection be a concern in your conspiracy theory?
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#125
You misunderstood me and misrepresent my POV in last paragraph "as a vicious attack"
lostnfound
Nov 2025
#135
The judge's ruling in the Rockland County 2024 election fraud case is due before 11/11.
in2herbs
Nov 2025
#13
Mine too, for a different reason. The more it looks like the US is turning on the WH and GOP, the more
wiggs
Nov 2025
#16
I think it comes from people who can't wrap their heads around how much the country had soured on incumbents last year.
BannonsLiver
Nov 2025
#59
It is more difficult to pull off in the off-year and smaller elections, and special elections.
yellow dahlia
Nov 2025
#41
Or it could be that voters in these states got a wake up call over the last few months
fujiyamasan
Nov 2025
#39
It's worth pointing out again that 2024 election denialism is actually a vicious attack on Kamala Harris and the entire
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#51
Off year elections would serve as pacification for anyone thinking the general elections contain malware
ffr
Nov 2025
#52
There definitely were massive voter suppression efforts, massive propaganda operations
LymphocyteLover
Nov 2025
#61
The vote flipping and deletions was done not at the precinct levels of which you are right would be unwork-...
Botany
Nov 2025
#70
you don't think anyone in the secretary of Dem state offices of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania
LymphocyteLover
Nov 2025
#74
couldn't that surge just be actual voters (since more Repubs tend to vote on election day)?
LymphocyteLover
Nov 2025
#132
A large surge of red voters from a large strongly blue voting population @ the last minute? Please.
Botany
Nov 2025
#134
A simple bell shaped curve for statical analysis will easily show causality behind the election results.
Botany
Nov 2025
#150
please provide a specific example of that kind of red surge in a blue area
LymphocyteLover
Nov 2025
#147
You think someone from the sos office at the state level looks at every precinct result to see if it matches?
questionseverything
Nov 2025
#120
No, but wouldn't someone at the county level do that? Or are they in on the plot?
LymphocyteLover
Nov 2025
#131
this is repeated by a lot of people that have no idea what the 'technology' is
stopdiggin
Nov 2025
#103
Yawn. It really isn't worth my good time. (while repeating, "this is evidence ..?" ) - -(nt)-
stopdiggin
Nov 2025
#124
In '26, and '28 we need the brightest, wileyest White Hat Hackers keeping all eyes on the votes & totals, tabulaters etc
electric_blue68
Nov 2025
#78
I don't think so. It just took a year or two of Trump in full swing to get out the vote, and persuade even many
Martin68
Nov 2025
#96
I'm sorry - but it NEVER happened. And your twitchy 'senses' are leading you astray.
stopdiggin
Nov 2025
#99
I thought so too. I felt that way after Pennsylvania and Michigan went to Trump. It doesn't make sense.
OLDMDDEM
Nov 2025
#101
So since this is all so clearly documented and proven, you must be accusing Kamala of knowing
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#117
At least you're honest, this contempt and hatred for Harris and Democrats appears widespread among election deniers
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#137
Yes. "They" use Russian-type psy-ops to convince people not to question elections,
yellow dahlia
Nov 2025
#144
Don't worry. Most of us realize that this is in NO way an attack on Dems.
yellow dahlia
Nov 2025
#121
It is absolutely a vicious attack on Democrats. You must believe truly terrible things about Kamala Harris and Democrats
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#133
Didn't happen in 2024 either. We lost. Was hoping Conspiracy Theories would stop, but nope.
Silent Type
Nov 2025
#118
Exactly. Analysis needs to be applied to the circumstances at the moment.
yellow dahlia
Nov 2025
#138
