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pat_k

(13,198 posts)
33. THIS THIS THIS
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:27 PM
Nov 2025

We never should have shut up about it. And not Medicare for All.

Give us our fucking subsidy bandaid and open the government. But then watch out, because people are WAKING UP. They KNOW we MUST have Single-payor universal health care. And that is what we're going to fight to get them, however long it takes.

YOU DO NOT BUILD THE POLITICAL WILL FOR SOMETHING BY SHUTTING UP ABOUT IT!!!

You keep advocating, loud and proud! And keep advocating. As you do, you change the boundaries of the possible. You make it MORE likely that you can get further down the road toward the ultimate goal FASTER.

We have been pulled in to Fascist Hell by the notion that you can only attempt to get that which you are sure is winnable. By surrendering in advance. By declaring can't win, won't fight.

Did the anti-abortionists STFU when everyone told them Roe v. Wade would never be overturned??

The day Hillary's effort failed, we should have rolled up our sleeves and started arguing against any fucking compromise that shovels money into the pockets of insurance companies who spent all those millions to make sure we didn't reduce their profits by a penny. The cry "No more for-profit health care. Our health is not a COMMODITY!! " should have started the next day.

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I just want to save Medicare.... FarPoint Nov 2025 #1
Of course we save Medicare/Medicaid. We also start beating the drum for universal care now! flashman13 Nov 2025 #28
THIS THIS THIS pat_k Nov 2025 #33
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #54
Amen! Mysterian Nov 2025 #2
A big yes! jaymac Nov 2025 #3
Maybe as a negotiating tactic TheFarseer Nov 2025 #4
If not now, when? We have GOT to start talking about it. hatrack Nov 2025 #19
I said when TheFarseer Nov 2025 #20
Raise the stakes pfitz59 Nov 2025 #5
doubt they will ever admit markie Nov 2025 #11
I believe the moment has now arrived, to make a loud argument for Medicare for All. Ars Longa Nov 2025 #6
I agree. Now convince the centrists thats what we want. Emile Nov 2025 #7
You mean like the ones who are also owners/investors of insurance companies? OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #9
great. rampartd Nov 2025 #8
Broadway Joe can always find a home in reverse mortgages. Xavier Breath Nov 2025 #17
Reverse 50-year mortgages? William Seger Nov 2025 #23
I asked Mike Flood (NE-repug) Rver Nov 2025 #10
it's always amazing what repukes can afford, and what they cannot Skittles Nov 2025 #51
100% EarthFirst Nov 2025 #12
The mistake was putting an expiration date on it to begin with MichMan Nov 2025 #13
That wasn't a mistake. That was the only way. marybourg Nov 2025 #16
Agree! I've even seen hardcore MAGA call for the same... OneGrassRoot Nov 2025 #14
Indeed. Time for some kind of public option... Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #15
They should, but they won't. eom Autumn Nov 2025 #18
I am forced to vehemently agree. Hugin Nov 2025 #21
I have to agree Samael13 Nov 2025 #22
K&R! Grumpy Old Guy Nov 2025 #24
DURec leftstreet Nov 2025 #25
Bad news this morning -- very few doctors in northern NM Ponietz Nov 2025 #26
i want to save a lot of the good programs. AllaN01Bear Nov 2025 #27
Not unless you say Real Medicare for All delisen Nov 2025 #29
+1 Both parties are waiting til it's completely privatized leftstreet Nov 2025 #31
Getting rid of MA needs to be a big campaign promise in 2028 MichMan Nov 2025 #32
Many young people think Medicare For All is free leftstreet Nov 2025 #34
And that's after paying into it for 40 years before becoming eligible MichMan Nov 2025 #35
This Gen Xer is about to be paying 700 a month with a big deductible Unwind Your Mind Nov 2025 #36
Thank-you. From some of the posts it is pretty clear that some people don't realize that original Medicare isn't free, lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #38
+1 leftstreet Nov 2025 #40
I know, if only. lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #41
You don't mention that the aca passed through reconciliation were only 51 votes were needed questionseverything Nov 2025 #42
and how was that going to happen when the Democrats in the Senate had at least 5-6 Democrats who refused to vote for lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #48
59-6 53 which was is still over 50, which is all reconciliation required questionseverything Nov 2025 #62
Medicare for All area51 Nov 2025 #45
Should've started demanding tbe second they tried to repeal obamacare. pat_k Nov 2025 #30
You realize it wasn't just the republicans we had to fight for that, but there were Democrats who refused to agree to lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #39
Vermont can't run a deficit like the United States can questionseverything Nov 2025 #43
By sticking future generations with the bills? MichMan Nov 2025 #47
My point is that it will NEVER happen if more of them aren't out there making the case, LOUDLY. pat_k Nov 2025 #55
Well, it sure as heck won't happen as long as people continue to do what they did in 2000, 2016, and 2024. lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #57
No healthcare for profit kimbutgar Nov 2025 #37
All of our issues should be repeated constantly gulliver Nov 2025 #44
When I was watching MSNBC this morning and Eric Swalwell was on - they showed Trump tweets about not giving money Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #46
With dental and vision! nt Javaman Nov 2025 #49
Please stop. That won't happen. We need the ACA. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #50
How many of both parties are Bettie Nov 2025 #52
We don't have House Senate or presidency so Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #53
We got pretty close to the public option and I wish Obama would have maybe went yourout Nov 2025 #56
Traitor Joe Lieberman threatened to blow the whole deal up if the PO was included. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #58
Medicare for all ...... Yes !!! Trueblue1968 Nov 2025 #59
Now more than ever we need the Democrats to demand Medicare for All. OrlandoDem2 Nov 2025 #60
Why would they call for something they don't actually want? BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #61
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