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lostincalifornia

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39. You realize it wasn't just the republicans we had to fight for that, but there were Democrats who refused to agree to
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Nov 2025

single-payer, a public option, yet alone Medicare for all.

The ACA barely passed.

Blanch Lincoln, Nelson in Nebraska, Nelson in Florida, Lieberman, Birch Bayh, and Mark Pryor in Arkansas in the Senate refused to go along with a public option, single payer or Medicare for all at the time the ACA was passed.

Even Vermont, from where Bernie Sanders is from, who is one of the biggest proponents of Medicare for all couldn't pass its single-payer health plan in 2014. The excuse used was the high cost it would entail, and it would cause economic disruption because the proposed funding mechanisms that would be used, payroll and income taxes would not be politically viable according to their Governor at the time, and could not guarantee that the plan wouldn't require even higher taxes due to rising healthcare stocks.

I am just saying, unless ALL Democrats are on board, it is highly unlikely to happen anytime soon.



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I just want to save Medicare.... FarPoint Nov 2025 #1
Of course we save Medicare/Medicaid. We also start beating the drum for universal care now! flashman13 Nov 2025 #28
THIS THIS THIS pat_k Nov 2025 #33
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #54
Amen! Mysterian Nov 2025 #2
A big yes! jaymac Nov 2025 #3
Maybe as a negotiating tactic TheFarseer Nov 2025 #4
If not now, when? We have GOT to start talking about it. hatrack Nov 2025 #19
I said when TheFarseer Nov 2025 #20
Raise the stakes pfitz59 Nov 2025 #5
doubt they will ever admit markie Nov 2025 #11
I believe the moment has now arrived, to make a loud argument for Medicare for All. Ars Longa Nov 2025 #6
I agree. Now convince the centrists thats what we want. Emile Nov 2025 #7
You mean like the ones who are also owners/investors of insurance companies? OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #9
great. rampartd Nov 2025 #8
Broadway Joe can always find a home in reverse mortgages. Xavier Breath Nov 2025 #17
Reverse 50-year mortgages? William Seger Nov 2025 #23
I asked Mike Flood (NE-repug) Rver Nov 2025 #10
it's always amazing what repukes can afford, and what they cannot Skittles Nov 2025 #51
100% EarthFirst Nov 2025 #12
The mistake was putting an expiration date on it to begin with MichMan Nov 2025 #13
That wasn't a mistake. That was the only way. marybourg Nov 2025 #16
Agree! I've even seen hardcore MAGA call for the same... OneGrassRoot Nov 2025 #14
Indeed. Time for some kind of public option... Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #15
They should, but they won't. eom Autumn Nov 2025 #18
I am forced to vehemently agree. Hugin Nov 2025 #21
I have to agree Samael13 Nov 2025 #22
K&R! Grumpy Old Guy Nov 2025 #24
DURec leftstreet Nov 2025 #25
Bad news this morning -- very few doctors in northern NM Ponietz Nov 2025 #26
i want to save a lot of the good programs. AllaN01Bear Nov 2025 #27
Not unless you say Real Medicare for All delisen Nov 2025 #29
+1 Both parties are waiting til it's completely privatized leftstreet Nov 2025 #31
Getting rid of MA needs to be a big campaign promise in 2028 MichMan Nov 2025 #32
Many young people think Medicare For All is free leftstreet Nov 2025 #34
And that's after paying into it for 40 years before becoming eligible MichMan Nov 2025 #35
This Gen Xer is about to be paying 700 a month with a big deductible Unwind Your Mind Nov 2025 #36
Thank-you. From some of the posts it is pretty clear that some people don't realize that original Medicare isn't free, lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #38
+1 leftstreet Nov 2025 #40
I know, if only. lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #41
You don't mention that the aca passed through reconciliation were only 51 votes were needed questionseverything Nov 2025 #42
and how was that going to happen when the Democrats in the Senate had at least 5-6 Democrats who refused to vote for lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #48
59-6 53 which was is still over 50, which is all reconciliation required questionseverything Nov 2025 #62
Medicare for All area51 Nov 2025 #45
Should've started demanding tbe second they tried to repeal obamacare. pat_k Nov 2025 #30
You realize it wasn't just the republicans we had to fight for that, but there were Democrats who refused to agree to lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #39
Vermont can't run a deficit like the United States can questionseverything Nov 2025 #43
By sticking future generations with the bills? MichMan Nov 2025 #47
My point is that it will NEVER happen if more of them aren't out there making the case, LOUDLY. pat_k Nov 2025 #55
Well, it sure as heck won't happen as long as people continue to do what they did in 2000, 2016, and 2024. lostincalifornia Nov 2025 #57
No healthcare for profit kimbutgar Nov 2025 #37
All of our issues should be repeated constantly gulliver Nov 2025 #44
When I was watching MSNBC this morning and Eric Swalwell was on - they showed Trump tweets about not giving money Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #46
With dental and vision! nt Javaman Nov 2025 #49
Please stop. That won't happen. We need the ACA. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #50
How many of both parties are Bettie Nov 2025 #52
We don't have House Senate or presidency so Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #53
We got pretty close to the public option and I wish Obama would have maybe went yourout Nov 2025 #56
Traitor Joe Lieberman threatened to blow the whole deal up if the PO was included. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #58
Medicare for all ...... Yes !!! Trueblue1968 Nov 2025 #59
Now more than ever we need the Democrats to demand Medicare for All. OrlandoDem2 Nov 2025 #60
Why would they call for something they don't actually want? BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #61
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