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24. We better not cave

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Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:47 PM

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Senate Democrats to Cave to Republicans [View all] angrychair Nov 2025 OP

Gawd I hope not! SheltieLover Nov 2025 #1

It would be a f'ing disaster! Bobstandard Nov 2025 #18

CNN not known for their reporting integrity. I do hope this is CNN just publicly jacking off again. NotHardly Nov 2025 #21

I updated my OP angrychair Nov 2025 #44

That is not a deal. It is a surrender. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #115

I did a second update to OP angrychair Nov 2025 #118

I've read otherwise.................. Lovie777 Nov 2025 #2

Just going by this article angrychair Nov 2025 #5

Where? All I have seen with google searches is TBF Nov 2025 #79

Will they ever learn? You can't negotiate with Lucy to kick the football at a "later date" rsdsharp Nov 2025 #3

If the Senate Democrats trust Trump, we need new Senators. dem4decades Nov 2025 #86

If they trust Republicans we need new Senators. rsdsharp Nov 2025 #99

Are they really folding? I hate having the Republicans bully us and we thanking them. dem4decades Nov 2025 #4

That's what the article says angrychair Nov 2025 #7

Schumer had to go. There's got to be someone with some fight in them. dem4decades Nov 2025 #11

The deal would not include an extension of the expiring enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies -- a key Democratic demand Celerity Nov 2025 #16

Hungry kids gulliver Nov 2025 #6

How is this a win? SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #8

I don't think they're toast gulliver Nov 2025 #14

I don't know enough to say SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #15

And that's assuming the House even takes it up. Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #68

They have waited Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #113

You can't let peope starve it is that simple krawhitham Nov 2025 #51

For one, we're not the ones letting Americans starve, that would be the repigs. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #57

I did not say she was right or wrong, all I said is she DID it krawhitham Nov 2025 #71

So instead we kill the the ACA? Snap is cut too Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #117

How so?!? angrychair Nov 2025 #9

I disagree. They're not talking about ending ALL subsidies... thesquanderer Nov 2025 #100

Respectfully angrychair Nov 2025 #108

I understand. But if you genuinely believe ""the entire US healthcare system will collapse" under the old rules, then... thesquanderer Nov 2025 #137

Experts have said the prices would triple... into Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #119

agreed, prices could triple for some people. For example... thesquanderer Nov 2025 #136

Hungry kids now without healthcare? Great win. dem4decades Nov 2025 #12

How many do we let die for the healthcare subsidies? krawhitham Nov 2025 #55

Who is starving? Let's be real, there's other sources for food, especially in the short term. dem4decades Nov 2025 #66

Lot of food banks running dry for no one to be starving krawhitham Nov 2025 #81

If this happens, and I'm skeptical it will, not sure how this is a win. Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #19

Welcome to DU. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #20

Thanks but I hope by that point it's not too late. Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #22

We'll know soon enough. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #23

Welcome to DU Chicken Magnet Lochloosa Nov 2025 #74

Shutdown rso Nov 2025 #87

They will have zero leverage in that situation... Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #94

Dems made their point, clearly repigs are not going to give in. Repigs get all the blowback on healthcare LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #89

So, Democrats prolonged a shutdown that caused a lot of pain, to make a political point? Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #96

What's your solution? There was no way out of this is Repigs aren't willing to give in. LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #131

Dems own it. Healthcare is on them because they caved Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #116

because the govt does a ton of important things besides healthcare LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #129

Well when they die because they can't get health care, I will personally hold you and them accountable. Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #49

Caving is winning? Cirsium Nov 2025 #121

So...government gets opened until JANUARY??? And we do it all again. Lucy snatches the healthcare subsidy football from Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #10

Read the article ... I no longer trust CNN sources Greywing Nov 2025 #13

I updated My OP angrychair Nov 2025 #27

Vote. Schumer. Out. Of. The. Leadership. Role. Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #17

We better not cave EnergizedLib Nov 2025 #24

This article seems to be pushing what the Republicans in the Senate want to happen Quiet Em Nov 2025 #25

I did update my OP angrychair Nov 2025 #30

I just read it. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #36

The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #28

No, it's not angrychair Nov 2025 #33

Thats a good point. I revise my statement to the far less compelling: SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #46

If the subsidies were sent directly to the individuals, I imagine it would be considered income generalbetrayus Nov 2025 #48

Okay. Very much not* the same thing... SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #50

shumer is such a poor leader. Cobalt Violet Nov 2025 #29

Horrible but we won the 2025 election & Republicans will own the end of ACA for 2026 bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #31

So they're not caving. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #32

Not sure what you mean. N/T angrychair Nov 2025 #34

Positive update angrychair Nov 2025 #104

Thank you for the update. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #106

Second update from Politico angrychair Nov 2025 #126

If republicans Rebl2 Nov 2025 #35

It's deeper than that angrychair Nov 2025 #39

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #37

If you are disappointed in turnout or independents in the next election, remember this decision. RockRaven Nov 2025 #38

Oh brother. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #54

You seem to have completely missed my point. I am not making any threats RockRaven Nov 2025 #110

Okay. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #128

People need a reason to vote Samael13 Nov 2025 #114

People are not very smart sometimes. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #127

Condescension and insults that'll help being voters in Samael13 Nov 2025 #135

+1 202 224 6542. CALL SCHUMER orangecrush Nov 2025 #40

I just left him a message.... BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #97

Left him a message also - I doubt it will matter. Can't understand why he would trust anything the GOP says? walkingman Nov 2025 #122

NO! NO! NO! lees1975 Nov 2025 #41

F this. Absolutely NOOO! AllyCat Nov 2025 #42

Goddamn it. This is ridiculous. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #43

Not that bad of a plan really, if it is the plan krawhitham Nov 2025 #45

Unfortunately, no. angrychair Nov 2025 #47

Seems to me BWdem4life Nov 2025 #95

Exactly. That's how politics works. It's a chess game, it's give-and-take, it's maneuvering... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #61

And with discontinuity of coverage TommyT139 Nov 2025 #80

Give and take? MontanaMama Nov 2025 #90

It stops no pain MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #65

We have the upper hand now with air traffic controllers not being paid - TBF Nov 2025 #83

Shit sandwich! No way! F this, all a this!! MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #52

If this happens Docreed2003 Nov 2025 #53

Discussions confirmed in "the Hill" as well - Thune is trying to push this vote through tonight TBF Nov 2025 #56

All two parties agree that you have the freedom to suffer and die. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2025 #58

Everyone pissed off at Jon Stewart, wondering how Dems were gonna piss away a win? This! All a this BS MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #59

I hope this is not true. kacekwl Nov 2025 #60

Me too. My heart gonna be broke MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #76

Nope, nothing to see here taxi Nov 2025 #62

Let's give our lunch money to the playground bully again.. Permanut Nov 2025 #63

DON'T BE BOOTLICKERS Blue Owl Nov 2025 #64

Omg, i feel.like we're trapped in that crappy game show. Deal, Or No Deal!?! MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #67

I hope this is NOT accurate. DO NOT CAVE Bread and Circuses Nov 2025 #69

OMG Chasstev365 Nov 2025 #70

FUBAR BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #72

If Republican's lips are moving, they're lying! MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #73

The Pubes will never honor their agreement. Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #75

JFC underpants Nov 2025 #77

Oh, sure Cirsium Nov 2025 #78

Shutdown rso Nov 2025 #82

We can't trust them at all! mvd Nov 2025 #84

I can envision Been A Dick Donald telling his toadies in the Senate to go ahead MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #88

Don't believe it. This is from cnn Javaman Nov 2025 #85

MSNBC is reporting right now that Elisa Slotkin senseandsensibility Nov 2025 #91

And she has every incentive to not trust the repigs given their past history of going back on their "promises". MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #93

If there were no Republican concessions gained, dlk Nov 2025 #92

Remember when Jon Stewart asked how Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #98

Schumer caved again? maliaSmith Nov 2025 #101

Perhaps its the easiest way to make sure that they lose the midterms quakerboy Nov 2025 #102

Democratic Senate Leadership is turning into an oxymoron. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2025 #103

Many a slip between a cup and a lip... paleotn Nov 2025 #105

I was so proud of my Sen. that fateful day, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #107

Yep! That was one of those moments in history you can't forget. paleotn Nov 2025 #111

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #109

Surrender to bullies and they will mercilessly pummel us C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #112

Damn! Owl Nov 2025 #120

Democratic lawmakers needed to make the number one priority to communicate to the American Doodley Nov 2025 #123

I wish the "that's not happening, all is well" crowd here would get it through their heads that Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #124

Well, insurance for my husband and me MontanaMama Nov 2025 #125

And if you had known they would have pulled this rug out from under you, no doubt you Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #133

Primary these traitors flying-skeleton Nov 2025 #132

Eight dem senators that still haven't firgured out that there is no common ground between democracy and fascism. Hotler Nov 2025 #134