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Quiet Em

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25. This article seems to be pushing what the Republicans in the Senate want to happen

Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:49 PM

Nov 2025

I don't believe there are the votes for this to pass.

Hakeem Jeffries has said that the House Democrats will not sign any legislation that merely promises future talks on health care subsidies.

So Thune's plan would be DOA at the House even if is somehow passed the Senate, which is doubtful.

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Senate Democrats to Cave to Republicans [View all] angrychair Nov 2025 OP

Gawd I hope not! SheltieLover Nov 2025 #1

It would be a f'ing disaster! Bobstandard Nov 2025 #18

CNN not known for their reporting integrity. I do hope this is CNN just publicly jacking off again. NotHardly Nov 2025 #21

I updated my OP angrychair Nov 2025 #44

That is not a deal. It is a surrender. Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #115

I did a second update to OP angrychair Nov 2025 #118

I've read otherwise.................. Lovie777 Nov 2025 #2

Just going by this article angrychair Nov 2025 #5

Where? All I have seen with google searches is TBF Nov 2025 #79

Will they ever learn? You can't negotiate with Lucy to kick the football at a "later date" rsdsharp Nov 2025 #3

If the Senate Democrats trust Trump, we need new Senators. dem4decades Nov 2025 #86

If they trust Republicans we need new Senators. rsdsharp Nov 2025 #99

Are they really folding? I hate having the Republicans bully us and we thanking them. dem4decades Nov 2025 #4

That's what the article says angrychair Nov 2025 #7

Schumer had to go. There's got to be someone with some fight in them. dem4decades Nov 2025 #11

The deal would not include an extension of the expiring enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies -- a key Democratic demand Celerity Nov 2025 #16

Hungry kids gulliver Nov 2025 #6

How is this a win? SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #8

I don't think they're toast gulliver Nov 2025 #14

I don't know enough to say SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #15

And that's assuming the House even takes it up. Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #68

They have waited Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #113

You can't let peope starve it is that simple krawhitham Nov 2025 #51

For one, we're not the ones letting Americans starve, that would be the repigs. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #57

I did not say she was right or wrong, all I said is she DID it krawhitham Nov 2025 #71

So instead we kill the the ACA? Snap is cut too Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #117

How so?!? angrychair Nov 2025 #9

I disagree. They're not talking about ending ALL subsidies... thesquanderer Nov 2025 #100

Respectfully angrychair Nov 2025 #108

I understand. But if you genuinely believe ""the entire US healthcare system will collapse" under the old rules, then... thesquanderer Nov 2025 #137

Experts have said the prices would triple... into Demsrule86 Nov 2025 #119

agreed, prices could triple for some people. For example... thesquanderer Nov 2025 #136

Hungry kids now without healthcare? Great win. dem4decades Nov 2025 #12

How many do we let die for the healthcare subsidies? krawhitham Nov 2025 #55

Who is starving? Let's be real, there's other sources for food, especially in the short term. dem4decades Nov 2025 #66

Lot of food banks running dry for no one to be starving krawhitham Nov 2025 #81

If this happens, and I'm skeptical it will, not sure how this is a win. Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #19

Welcome to DU. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #20

Thanks but I hope by that point it's not too late. Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #22

We'll know soon enough. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #23

Welcome to DU Chicken Magnet Lochloosa Nov 2025 #74

Shutdown rso Nov 2025 #87

They will have zero leverage in that situation... Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #94

Dems made their point, clearly repigs are not going to give in. Repigs get all the blowback on healthcare LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #89

So, Democrats prolonged a shutdown that caused a lot of pain, to make a political point? Chicken Magnet Nov 2025 #96

What's your solution? There was no way out of this is Repigs aren't willing to give in. LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #131

Dems own it. Healthcare is on them because they caved Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #116

because the govt does a ton of important things besides healthcare LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #129

Well when they die because they can't get health care, I will personally hold you and them accountable. Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #49

Caving is winning? Cirsium Nov 2025 #121

So...government gets opened until JANUARY??? And we do it all again. Lucy snatches the healthcare subsidy football from Nanjeanne Nov 2025 #10

Read the article ... I no longer trust CNN sources Greywing Nov 2025 #13

I updated My OP angrychair Nov 2025 #27

Vote. Schumer. Out. Of. The. Leadership. Role. Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #17

We better not cave EnergizedLib Nov 2025 #24

This article seems to be pushing what the Republicans in the Senate want to happen Quiet Em Nov 2025 #25

I did update my OP angrychair Nov 2025 #30

I just read it. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #36

The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #28

No, it's not angrychair Nov 2025 #33

Thats a good point. I revise my statement to the far less compelling: SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #46

If the subsidies were sent directly to the individuals, I imagine it would be considered income generalbetrayus Nov 2025 #48

Okay. Very much not* the same thing... SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #50

shumer is such a poor leader. Cobalt Violet Nov 2025 #29

Horrible but we won the 2025 election & Republicans will own the end of ACA for 2026 bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #31

So they're not caving. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #32

Not sure what you mean. N/T angrychair Nov 2025 #34

Positive update angrychair Nov 2025 #104

Thank you for the update. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #106

Second update from Politico angrychair Nov 2025 #126

If republicans Rebl2 Nov 2025 #35

It's deeper than that angrychair Nov 2025 #39

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #37

If you are disappointed in turnout or independents in the next election, remember this decision. RockRaven Nov 2025 #38

Oh brother. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #54

You seem to have completely missed my point. I am not making any threats RockRaven Nov 2025 #110

Okay. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #128

People need a reason to vote Samael13 Nov 2025 #114

People are not very smart sometimes. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #127

Condescension and insults that'll help being voters in Samael13 Nov 2025 #135

+1 202 224 6542. CALL SCHUMER orangecrush Nov 2025 #40

I just left him a message.... BigmanPigman Nov 2025 #97

Left him a message also - I doubt it will matter. Can't understand why he would trust anything the GOP says? walkingman Nov 2025 #122

NO! NO! NO! lees1975 Nov 2025 #41

F this. Absolutely NOOO! AllyCat Nov 2025 #42

Goddamn it. This is ridiculous. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #43

Not that bad of a plan really, if it is the plan krawhitham Nov 2025 #45

Unfortunately, no. angrychair Nov 2025 #47

Seems to me BWdem4life Nov 2025 #95

Exactly. That's how politics works. It's a chess game, it's give-and-take, it's maneuvering... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #61

And with discontinuity of coverage TommyT139 Nov 2025 #80

Give and take? MontanaMama Nov 2025 #90

It stops no pain MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #65

We have the upper hand now with air traffic controllers not being paid - TBF Nov 2025 #83

Shit sandwich! No way! F this, all a this!! MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #52

If this happens Docreed2003 Nov 2025 #53

Discussions confirmed in "the Hill" as well - Thune is trying to push this vote through tonight TBF Nov 2025 #56

All two parties agree that you have the freedom to suffer and die. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2025 #58

Everyone pissed off at Jon Stewart, wondering how Dems were gonna piss away a win? This! All a this BS MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #59

I hope this is not true. kacekwl Nov 2025 #60

Me too. My heart gonna be broke MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #76

Nope, nothing to see here taxi Nov 2025 #62

Let's give our lunch money to the playground bully again.. Permanut Nov 2025 #63

DON'T BE BOOTLICKERS Blue Owl Nov 2025 #64

Omg, i feel.like we're trapped in that crappy game show. Deal, Or No Deal!?! MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #67

I hope this is NOT accurate. DO NOT CAVE Bread and Circuses Nov 2025 #69

OMG Chasstev365 Nov 2025 #70

FUBAR BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #72

If Republican's lips are moving, they're lying! MerryBlooms Nov 2025 #73

The Pubes will never honor their agreement. Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #75

JFC underpants Nov 2025 #77

Oh, sure Cirsium Nov 2025 #78

Shutdown rso Nov 2025 #82

We can't trust them at all! mvd Nov 2025 #84

I can envision Been A Dick Donald telling his toadies in the Senate to go ahead MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #88

Don't believe it. This is from cnn Javaman Nov 2025 #85

MSNBC is reporting right now that Elisa Slotkin senseandsensibility Nov 2025 #91

And she has every incentive to not trust the repigs given their past history of going back on their "promises". MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #93

If there were no Republican concessions gained, dlk Nov 2025 #92

Remember when Jon Stewart asked how Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #98

Schumer caved again? maliaSmith Nov 2025 #101

Perhaps its the easiest way to make sure that they lose the midterms quakerboy Nov 2025 #102

Democratic Senate Leadership is turning into an oxymoron. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2025 #103

Many a slip between a cup and a lip... paleotn Nov 2025 #105

I was so proud of my Sen. that fateful day, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #107

Yep! That was one of those moments in history you can't forget. paleotn Nov 2025 #111

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #109

Surrender to bullies and they will mercilessly pummel us C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #112

Damn! Owl Nov 2025 #120

Democratic lawmakers needed to make the number one priority to communicate to the American Doodley Nov 2025 #123

I wish the "that's not happening, all is well" crowd here would get it through their heads that Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #124

Well, insurance for my husband and me MontanaMama Nov 2025 #125

And if you had known they would have pulled this rug out from under you, no doubt you Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #133

Primary these traitors flying-skeleton Nov 2025 #132

Eight dem senators that still haven't firgured out that there is no common ground between democracy and fascism. Hotler Nov 2025 #134