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RockRaven

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1. The circle cannot be squared -- if this vote to end the shutdown is right then

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:08 AM

Nov 10

some number of the votes which allowed the shutdown to happen and proceed were wrong, because the nominal thing being saved ultimately was not... and defenders of today's action are saying it could not be, in which case the shutdown is not defensible.

One can only defend today's action by throwing yesterdays' actions under the bus. No matter which way one tries to spin it, this was botched and that botching is worthy of critique.

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People steady advocating against Democrats don't seem to have a care in the world about achieving a majority [View all] bigtree Nov 10 OP

The circle cannot be squared -- if this vote to end the shutdown is right then RockRaven Nov 10 #1

I disagree. pat_k Nov 10 #4

Alternatively one can look at the situation as having tried something that didn't work EdmondDantes_ Nov 10 #25

100% !! WELL SAID ! (and it really NEEDED to be said !) stopdiggin Nov 10 #2

Very well said, bigtree. Sogo Nov 10 #3

K&R nt PunkinPi Nov 10 #5

Then why even have the shutdown? Envirogal Nov 10 #6

Not fighting helps us win nothing orangecrush Nov 10 #7

The problem is that Democrats don't demonstrate Baitball Blogger Nov 10 #8

My feelings, exactly Pototan Nov 10 #9

Completely disagree angrychair Nov 10 #10

What did we get for our 40 days? Billsdaughter Nov 10 #11

How long will Trump spike the football in our face? dem4decades Nov 10 #26

It was a REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN. The only Emile Nov 10 #12

. Scrivener7 Nov 10 #13

Thanks to centrists they couldn't pass a public option, now Emile Nov 10 #14

You've got it all wrong Orrex Nov 10 #16

Patience, grasshopper. All is going exactly as it should go. This isn't a Law & Order episode. And what are YOU Scrivener7 Nov 10 #17

+1 demmiblue Nov 10 #18

+1 leftstreet Nov 10 #23

Well, that's certainly one way to spin it. Orrex Nov 10 #15

K&R mcar Nov 10 #19

Say It Loud! MineralMan Nov 10 #20

K&R betsuni Nov 10 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #22

But Schumer himself welcomes GOPers leftstreet Nov 10 #24

Tell that to the crazy 8. nt yaesu Nov 10 #27

Who needs a majority when you rule like a monarchy C_U_L8R Nov 10 #28

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