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Happy Hoosier

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36. Sure. Great.

Reply to maxrandb (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:09 AM

Nov 10

Why even bother with the shutdown if we were just going to cave anyway?

We could have saved people a lot of angst and hardship.

Let's face it: We collapsed. In the face of a broad, electoral statement of support, we decided to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yes, I'm glad people are getting food. Great. Especially before the holidays. But people WILL lose healthcare over this and that means people will DIE because of this. And worse, the Republicans now know they can win by imposing pain. They know they just need to keep inflicting MORE pain until we cry Uncle. And we'll get a short reprieve until they do it again. Only THIS time, the public won't believe us when we say we'll fight.

And I know most Democrats held strong. That won;t be the message the voting public take away from this.

This was our chance. We needed to stand firm HERE. We failed.

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It's true that sometimes you reach the point of diminishing returns [View all] maxrandb Nov 9 OP

90 million who had something better to do on election day n/t Cheezoholic Nov 9 #1

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There was an unexplained shift in there leftstreet Nov 9 #4

Democrats put a huge spotlight on the issue. Voters will know who to blame when they can no longer afford coverage. tritsofme Nov 9 #5

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I don't necessarily disagree with you. Democratic leaders were forced into a shutdown that never truly made much sense tritsofme Nov 9 #10

It made some sense, I doubt the election a week ago would have turned out quite as well without it Amishman Nov 10 #29

"Democrats shut down the government"? Nice try, Mr. Joined Today 19-poster. hatrack Nov 9 #18

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Not their first rodeo JoseBalow Nov 10 #25

Maybe the Dems fought hard, but never anticipated maxrandb Nov 10 #27

lol voters wont remember shit pimpbot Nov 9 #20

They are causing a real and tangible harm. tritsofme Nov 9 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 10 #24

Cup o' Cope Ponietz Nov 9 #3

It's so predictable, though Gore1FL Nov 9 #6

It's not all or even most Democrats. Happy Hoosier Nov 9 #15

It feels like we were tricked though leftstreet Nov 9 #7

I am in a very comfy position also FHRRK Nov 9 #9

Well it is true as you say ... Nanjeanne Nov 9 #11

You seem to think Dems could win this fight maxrandb Nov 10 #30

Oh well if Abagail Spanberger says it then of course Nanjeanne Nov 10 #35

Wow. Yeah, people like me are just collateral damage? herding cats Nov 9 #12

Kicked and Recommended jfz9580m Nov 9 #13

Would you mind dying a bit more quietly? Happy Hoosier Nov 9 #16

I'm just beginning to realize my worth. herding cats Nov 9 #17

FWIW, the vast majority of Democrats opposed this. Happy Hoosier Nov 9 #19

No, you have every right to be angry. maxrandb Nov 10 #32

So, what returns did we get? Happy Hoosier Nov 9 #14

We get to watch the blowback for voting for people to die? herding cats Nov 9 #21

What blowback? Their axing Roe V Wade didn't even make people wake up Amishman Nov 10 #31

What we get is people not starving and losing their entire livelihood maxrandb Nov 10 #33

Sure. Great. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #36

I'm not disheartened by the failure to protect the ACA, but by the strategic incompetence. RockRaven Nov 10 #26

Stop orangecrush Nov 10 #28

It WAS A REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN and Emile Nov 10 #34

That's true. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #37