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Bayard

(28,568 posts)
35. Well said
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 05:36 PM
Dec 27

Rushmore was always a slap in the face to the Sioux who owned it. Now....if trump gets his noggin on there, it will complete the sacrilege.

From: https://nativenewsonline.net/opinion/the-other-side-of-the-mountain-story-a-native-perspective-on-mt-rushmore

"What the American Indians know, particularly those from the great Sioux nations, is that the tribes were originally given the Black Hills, which Mount Rushmore is a part of, in perpetuity in the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868. Soon thereafter, gold was discovered in the Black Hills and greed set in. The U.S. Calvary moved in by the mid-1870s to protect white miners. The U.S. government took the stance that American Indians had the choice to “sell or starve.” By 1877, the Sioux nations’ land was confiscated by the federal government and the Sioux were forced onto reservations.
The Sioux nations have maintained they are the rightful owners of the Black Hills. They took the federal government to court and in 1980 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed the land was taken from them wrongfully. As a result, a trust account was set up with $102 million for compensation.
The Sioux said they did not want the money, they want the Black Hills back. The fund is reportedly now worth more than $1 billion."


Mount Rushmore before work began. Photo from National Park Service archives.

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Never forget malaise Dec 26 #1
Omg that poem! LearnedHand Dec 26 #2
The Dakota 38 Clouds Passing Dec 26 #3
Slaves still had value. They were still workers. The people never saw the Native Americans as any thing but LiberalArkie Dec 26 #4
not sure why you would "ironically" use the tone of a racist bigot to say a bunch of slurs but here we are WhiskeyGrinder Dec 26 #6
He edited the remarks wolfie001 Dec 26 #8
What's "Red***ns?" Polybius Dec 26 #12
*** equals "ski" rubbersole Dec 26 #14
Ahh Polybius Dec 26 #15
Egads no idea wolfie001 Dec 26 #22
then why not spell it all the way out WhiskeyGrinder Dec 26 #18
Because they describe what they heard instead being sugar coated. I remember when the LBGT's were being slured as"QUEER" LiberalArkie Dec 26 #19
The OP describes what happened, without sugar coating. And then you added a bunch of slurs -- slurs that are, one could WhiskeyGrinder Dec 26 #21
trail of tear? AllaN01Bear Dec 26 #5
That's another one but that was Andrew Jackson... SonOfNebanaube Dec 27 #26
Lincoln was president. So he was no saint wolfie001 Dec 26 #7
Lincoln DID intervene to an extent. Originally 307 Dakotas were sentenced to death, Jack Valentino Dec 27 #25
Thanks for that wolfie001 Dec 27 #27
Understood, but I had read about this incident in civil war history,. Jack Valentino Dec 28 #38
Thank you for this grim reminder. niyad Dec 26 #9
American history.. mountain grammy Dec 26 #10
Never forget that Lincoln was far from perfect Polybius Dec 26 #11
I have heard white people express bafflement and offense that Native peoples want the Four False Faces removed... TygrBright Dec 26 #13
Well said Bayard Dec 27 #35
Never heard this in any "history" class or otherwise. We have always been a very racist country. And now getting worse Evolve Dammit Dec 26 #16
Made a donation to NARF after reading this. SergeStorms Dec 26 #17
... Solly Mack Dec 26 #20
afternoon kick WhiskeyGrinder Dec 26 #23
Lincoln did not order the executions Progressive dog Dec 26 #24
Lincoln reviewed every one of these cases, and ordered the executions that were carried out. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 27 #28
I guess Old Abe made a lot more enemies than we learned about in school? kentuck Dec 27 #29
I don't know what you mean about Lincoln's enemies. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 27 #31
We do a very Catholic trinitarian view of our great Presidents mr715 Dec 27 #32
A journey of ceremony and prayer honors Dakota women who witnessed 1862 executions WhiskeyGrinder Dec 27 #30
Wikipedia's take on Lincoln and the executions: Lincoln executed those who were involved in killing or raping settlers andym Dec 27 #33
Yes, colonial state violence invariably results in a violent response, bringing more state violence. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 27 #34
Excellent historical book on the subject Bayard Dec 27 #36
Everything is bigger in Texas... GJGCA Dec 27 #37
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