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9. Irrelevant to my post; AND: Harris WOULD NOT have been worse on Gaza, and
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 02:45 PM
Jan 1

would have been OH SO MUCH BETTER ON SO MANY THINGS.

Before getting into the larger discussion - back to the OP - what could America do to stop the policy mentioned in the OP? Wouldn't Harris at least have TRIED, instead of outright supporting Netanyahu's plan? Clearly TSF is 100% on board with ethnic cleansing. I am quite certain Harris would not be. Whether Harris would be effective at stopping it, I do not know. But she would not be enthusiastically looking to help Netanyahu do it. Would that not be an improvement?

Now, the larger discussion:

There are uncountable tragedies occurring around the globe - NOT ONLY in Gaza. There are some we can influence more than others.

WE HAD TWO FUCKING CHOICES IN 2025. One would have improved on MANY things, one would be ... well doing all the AWFUL CRAP that the SICK FUCK is doing. According to your own post - GAZA SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE DECIDER. If the result in Gaza would be the same regardless which of the TWO CHOICES were chosen - as you say (I strongly disagree, but it is irrelevant to my point) - then GAZA SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE DECIDER. For anyone who actually cares about humanity. And therefore, amplifying disgusting rhetoric about the DEMOCRAT (the non-Trump candidate) based on perceived failure to be pure enough on GAZA - either fucking stupid or fucking evil.

( Unless a person in Gaza is more valuable than a person somewhere else in the world? A Gazan child matters more than a Ukrainian or Venezuelan or child literally anywhere else that the US has (well used to have) a positive influence? )

My problems with so-called "pro Palestinians" are

a) they often (not all and not always, thankfully; but the loudest ones, always) completely ignore the depravity of Hamas as a major instigator of the current cataclysm in Gaza.
b) they were willing to throw the rest of the world under the bus, back up and roll over again and again and again, because they either
* believed as you stated that, at best, Harris would do no better for GAZA than Trump would - AND apparently they believe, "FUCK THE REST OF THE WORLD".
* OR were Trump supporters all along and therefore either naive / stupid, or evil.

I do not support Netanyahu or his actions to address the problem - but I am tired of the "blame Democrats" faction of so-called Palestinian supporters.

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7 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Moving people out of Gaza? [View all] applegrove Dec 29 OP
How long will the people of America tolerate this? I guess unless it directly affects them forever. walkingman Dec 29 #1
Trump earlier said housing would be built for the displaced Gazans... But, who will build it? Norrrm Dec 29 #2
Weren't there a lot of users on this site backing Netanyahu's actions? AStern Dec 29 #3
Don't confuse being anti-Hamas and anti-anti-Biden rhetoric RandomNumbers Dec 29 #6
If you support the ACTIONS of someone, you support that person, no? AloeVera Dec 30 #8
Irrelevant to my post; AND: Harris WOULD NOT have been worse on Gaza, and RandomNumbers Jan 1 #9
I think you missed some nuances there, while misinterpreting what I said. AloeVera Jan 2 #25
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 1 #10
Just a quick question: Mossfern Jan 1 #14
That would be H2O Man Jan 1 #15
I honestly don't think it necessary to get into it again Mossfern Jan 1 #16
Yes, I know H2O Man Jan 1 #17
Well then ... Mossfern Jan 1 #19
I agree. H2O Man Jan 1 #20
Too simple - or incomplete- an explanation that lets the broader society off the hook. AloeVera Jan 1 #23
I thought Mossfern Jan 2 #27
I don't accept the premise of your question. AloeVera Jan 2 #28
Thanks Mossfern Jan 2 #29
If you don't get it, I don't know what else to say to you. AloeVera Jan 2 #30
Nowhere have I ever implied Mossfern Jan 2 #35
What room do we have to lecture? The Revolution Jan 1 #12
Please. H2O Man Jan 1 #13
Thank you H2O Man. AloeVera Jan 1 #22
"We" didn't commit Tokyo or Dresden etc. Our governments did, and they were wrong then as now. AloeVera Jan 1 #24
They tend to disappear Bettie Jan 1 #21
Of course he's gonna help them relocate..he's biting at the bit to get those resorts going up Deuxcents Dec 29 #4
Ummm, isn't that one of the reasons there are issues in the area to begin with? haele Dec 29 #5
Many Gazans have already been re-located TO Gaza...nt Wounded Bear Jan 1 #11
Exactly the point. haele Jan 1 #18
FIL Trump and God Father Netanyahu Blue Full Moon Dec 29 #7
Kickin' the can. Good post. Dave Bowman Jan 2 #26
"...the opportunity to live in a better climate..." LudwigPastorius Jan 2 #31
I like your style! AloeVera Jan 2 #32
I'd be worried about the people of Somaliland more than the Gazans gulliver Jan 2 #33
"Sequestered". AloeVera Jan 2 #34
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