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gulliver

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22. We agree on the negative aspects almost entirely
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 05:30 PM
Yesterday

I don't think what existed before (humans plus Google et al.) was better. I didn't like where we were already. AI (LLMs et al) may help.

You have a point that AI was trained on data that was likely proprietary. It's unclear to me whether intellectual property law is up to stopping that, but I highly doubt it is. If there is a case to be made against AI, AI will probably be a powerful tool in making the case against itself.

Yes, AI can dumb users down. Google, etc., already did that—massively. People shouldn't use AI to cheat on tests and homework any more than people should use a mini excavator to cheat on bench presses. AI psychosis is a problem. So is doom scrolling. AI can help with these, imo. Traditional mental illness was already going through the roof (or wasn't, depending on how much trust you have in the psychology industry).

I don't care about inequality as long as people have an economic floor. We should be trying to create law that uses AI to create that floor of prosperity. Ultimately, we shouldn't be working two jobs, each requiring forty or more hours, to support a family. We really screwed up letting it get this way. We haven't been riding the machine; it's been riding us.

You may not believe that ("oligarch!" ) Elon Musk wants to create abundance for all. I do. If his reason is wanting "to win the big e-game" or simply wanting to solve the biggest problem there is, I don't care. Unfortunately, I don't see political leaders of any stripe coming even close to getting a handle on either AI or the preexisting hellscape.

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Asymmetric Starbeach Yesterday #1
It's possible he's done more harm to education than any other person in history. highplainsdem Yesterday #2
With social media and AI, tech broligarchs misanthrope Yesterday #3
I agree, and it's a tragic situation. Unfortunately accelerated by people using AI when they aren't highplainsdem Yesterday #5
Tangential but related misanthrope Yesterday #9
Very helpful video. Thanks again! highplainsdem Yesterday #10
+1. Altman wants to be the next Elon Musk dalton99a Yesterday #4
Thanks! highplainsdem Yesterday #7
Re what you added there about Sam Altman - yes, he's a lot like Elon Musk. He wants more and more highplainsdem Yesterday #11
Psychopathy and sociopathy aid success in the corporate and political realms misanthrope Yesterday #21
Writing a thesis is hard work Mz Pip Yesterday #6
You'd accomplished a lot, and learned a lot. highplainsdem Yesterday #8
It is sooooooo awful róisín_dubh Yesterday #12
I'm so sorry. It's understandable that good teachers don't want to deal with what AI has done to highplainsdem Yesterday #14
AI can help save us from natural intelligences (humans) powered by the Internet. gulliver Yesterday #13
Generative AI isn't "extremely destructive to BS." It's often called a bullshit machine. It isn't highplainsdem Yesterday #15
Not perfect, but a massive improvement over "humans plus Google" gulliver Yesterday #16
Generative AI is NOT the real deal. It will always hallucinate, and it will never get us to true highplainsdem Yesterday #17
It's useful as a tool, so far gulliver Yesterday #18
It's an unethical tool, because it was trained illegally on stolen intellectual property. It's a tool that highplainsdem Yesterday #20
We agree on the negative aspects almost entirely gulliver Yesterday #22
I wish I could believe that Musk really wants abundance for all, but IIRC there's little or no evidence highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #28
The same idiots who used google searches to reinforce and promote their idiocies... hunter Yesterday #19
True gulliver Yesterday #23
Imagine a golden future where students use AI to write papers... hunter Yesterday #24
We already have a present, far from golden, where some students and teachers do that. And our highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #29
When used appropriately and responsibly.... anciano Yesterday #25
Other people's uncredited information, ideas and creativity. Do you even note the use of genAI in your product ... marble falls Yesterday #27
I've used genAI enough to know what's created with it is a result of the stolen IP used to train it. highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #31
And I'll help. May I grease the skids? marble falls Yesterday #26
Very happy to have your help. A lot of people share our opinion of AI. There was a poll done recently highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #30
Fuck AI. Fuck it to hell. Initech 22 hrs ago #32
We have good reason to hate and oppose the tech lords who released generative AI tools and highplainsdem 10 hrs ago #33
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