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EuterpeThelo

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4. My late husband and I
Sun Mar 29, 2026, 08:06 AM
Mar 29

began dating in 2001, shortly after 9-11. We'd been friends for a few years but it was that event that made us realize how short and precious life is and acknowledge that we'd been in love the whole time.

As a child of immediate post-WW2 England, his greatest fear was fascism coming to his beloved, adopted country. We despaired together over the torture, the extraordinary renditions and indefinite detentions, the unqualified cronies and religious bigots taking over government, the shredding of civil/human rights and the economy, the embarrassment on the world stage, and, of course, the wars based on lies. He was the one that wrote forceful, righteous rants in his letters to the editor; I was the one out yelling and raving and carrying mock coffins through the streets of Hollywood. We had deep, deep trauma bonding over the Bush presidency.

We honestly never thought it could get any worse than W...and then along came the Tangerine Taint.

After nearly 20 years of living through all of it together and watching hope creep back in during the Obama presidency, I lost him to COVID in June of 2020. It was my final hope for him that he was too sedated to understand that Twitler's weaponized incompetence was the reason he dying, but I'll never really know because I didn't even get to say goodbye.

We didn't even get to clink glasses when Darth Cheney died. I mean, you bet I raised one, but between doing it all by myself and Dick now feeling like the Diet Coke of Evil, it all felt so anticlimactic...


trump versus W [View all] mnmoderatedem Mar 29 OP
W's administration looks world class compared to this shit show newdeal2 Mar 29 #1
Compared with Trump, W is a towering intellect. Crunchy Frog Mar 29 #2
This! Joinfortmill Mar 29 #16
Trump wants his "Mission Accomplished" moment too. hot2na Mar 29 #3
Sadly, you're right EuterpeThelo Mar 29 #5
My late husband and I EuterpeThelo Mar 29 #4
Very sorry to hear that. It must have been devastating. harumph Mar 29 #8
Thank you, Harumph EuterpeThelo Mar 29 #9
W was an idiot, but he had trusted staff Smackdown2019 Mar 29 #6
Yes. I had that discussion with a friend during Trump's first term... thesquanderer Mar 29 #7
A lot of dems voted for the Iraq war, including 3-out-of-5 of our past presidential candidates so, CrispyQ Mar 29 #29
W started two long wars of occupation. 5,000 US troops died, and upwards of a million people in the region Martin Eden Mar 29 #10
HW was not horrible Cosmocat Mar 29 #11
W is like Thomas Jefferson compared to trump. Katinfl Mar 29 #12
Don't despair, I think the Grim Reaper is at his door. Joinfortmill Mar 29 #17
Sure hope you are right. Katinfl Mar 29 #21
For me it was Nixon; GW was doing his best to emulate nixon. mwmisses4289 Mar 29 #13
I felt Nixon's shenanigans started GOP corruption. IzzaNuDay Mar 29 #23
The same GOP was behind them both IbogaProject Mar 29 #14
Like most things, it was complicated... Joinfortmill Mar 29 #19
The Nazis and Good Germans came earlier in 53 IbogaProject Mar 29 #26
The real difference between the two of them is that as dumb as GW is/was as president, and lets face it, he was another Escurumbele Mar 29 #15
trump is definitely more of a sadist and seems mucifer Mar 29 #30
I know what you mean, I felt the same way. lark Mar 29 #18
Much as I was against the war in Iraq Norbert Mar 29 #20
We were attacked in 2001 and allies came to help. Katinfl Mar 29 #22
I judge them equal in incompetence The Blue Flower Mar 29 #24
The GOP has been spiralling downward since Ike... Wounded Bear Mar 29 #25
I was 9 through 17 when Dubya was in the White House EnergizedLib Mar 29 #27
I never thought I would say that about Nixon, for crissake. bluescribbler Mar 29 #28
Trump solidified his position on 1/6/21 ITAL Mar 29 #31
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