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thesquanderer

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7. Yes. I had that discussion with a friend during Trump's first term...
Sun Mar 29, 2026, 08:22 AM
Yesterday

She said that Trump was the worst president in her lifetime. And I said, no... that while Trump was the worst human being we'd had as president, he wasn't the worst president because, unlike W, he was not responsible for lots of death... thousands of our troops and perhaps hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in W's unnecessary war. (And torture too!) But once Trump's botched response to covid led to a huge number of unnecessary deaths in the U.S., I could no longer attribute to Trump's defense that, well, at least he didn't kill people. And now we have Iran.

And the Bush administration's disregard for the Constitution via the PATRIOT Act and warrantless surveillance (and supposedly having called the Constitution just a goddamned piece of paper) seems almost quaint next to Trump's disregard for the Constitution.

Yup, I never thought we would ever have another President as bad as W, much less one even worse.

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trump versus W [View all] mnmoderatedem Yesterday OP
W's administration looks world class compared to this shit show newdeal2 Yesterday #1
Compared with Trump, W is a towering intellect. Crunchy Frog Yesterday #2
This! Joinfortmill Yesterday #16
Trump wants his "Mission Accomplished" moment too. hot2na Yesterday #3
Sadly, you're right EuterpeThelo Yesterday #5
My late husband and I EuterpeThelo Yesterday #4
Very sorry to hear that. It must have been devastating. harumph Yesterday #8
Thank you, Harumph EuterpeThelo Yesterday #9
W was an idiot, but he had trusted staff Smackdown2019 Yesterday #6
Yes. I had that discussion with a friend during Trump's first term... thesquanderer Yesterday #7
A lot of dems voted for the Iraq war, including 3-out-of-5 of our past presidential candidates so, CrispyQ Yesterday #29
W started two long wars of occupation. 5,000 US troops died, and upwards of a million people in the region Martin Eden Yesterday #10
HW was not horrible Cosmocat Yesterday #11
W is like Thomas Jefferson compared to trump. Katinfl Yesterday #12
Don't despair, I think the Grim Reaper is at his door. Joinfortmill Yesterday #17
Sure hope you are right. Katinfl Yesterday #21
For me it was Nixon; GW was doing his best to emulate nixon. mwmisses4289 Yesterday #13
I felt Nixon's shenanigans started GOP corruption. IzzaNuDay Yesterday #23
The same GOP was behind them both IbogaProject Yesterday #14
Like most things, it was complicated... Joinfortmill Yesterday #19
The Nazis and Good Germans came earlier in 53 IbogaProject Yesterday #26
The real difference between the two of them is that as dumb as GW is/was as president, and lets face it, he was another Escurumbele Yesterday #15
trump is definitely more of a sadist and seems mucifer Yesterday #30
I know what you mean, I felt the same way. lark Yesterday #18
Much as I was against the war in Iraq Norbert Yesterday #20
We were attacked in 2001 and allies came to help. Katinfl Yesterday #22
I judge them equal in incompetence The Blue Flower Yesterday #24
The GOP has been spiralling downward since Ike... Wounded Bear Yesterday #25
I was 9 through 17 when Dubya was in the White House EnergizedLib Yesterday #27
I never thought I would say that about Nixon, for crissake. bluescribbler Yesterday #28
Trump solidified his position on 1/6/21 ITAL Yesterday #31
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