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34. Even if you can move around in AF1 unlike on an airliner, the cabin in any airplane

Tue May 12, 2026, 05:30 PM

May 12

is pressurized to the equivalent of 10,000 feet above seal level, which is at about the limit of where you can start to get hypoxia. So an overweight 80-year-old with possible congestive heart failure and a history of TIAs flying to China is basically going to be sitting on top of San Jacinto Peak for 10 hours. Many hours at 10,000' can reduce O2 saturation to about 88%, which might not be a good thing for said overweight 80-year-old.

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Frankly, if my grossly overweight patient with heart failure and [View all] PCIntern May 12 OP

Fingers crossed! bif May 12 #1

We will just have to hope for the best. rambler_american May 12 #61

OMG... thanks for the flashback from Snackshack May 13 #97

Tease! questionseverything May 12 #2

We can only hope his doctors are as bad as his lawyers... displacedvermoter May 12 #3

How about RFK, Jr in charge of his health care? Jerry2144 May 12 #7

if they are bootlickers Skittles May 12 #55

We can only hope nothing minor happens. Ocelot II May 12 #4

Yes it's positively insane. BannonsLiver May 12 #5

Don't get people's hopes up 😉 MustLoveBeagles May 12 #6

If I were China I wouldn't want him traveling for a diplomatic visit at this time. Baitball Blogger May 12 #8

And they'd have to find a big enough box to do a return shipment1 erronis May 12 #18

Glad I'm Just Jerome May 12 #24

They could probably find room on a container ship. WestMichRad May 12 #48

Exactly popsdenver May 12 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Bluetus May 13 #89

And then Bluetus May 13 #90

That's why, as a health professional, I endorse this trip for that person. Maru Kitteh May 12 #9

Yes, I am tearfully supporting PatSeg May 12 #20

Blood clots can happen to anyone. maxsolomon May 12 #10

Compression socks. Old Crank May 13 #80

Let us pray ZDU May 12 #11

His degenerative health and high risk behavior are Torchlight May 12 #12

Flying in AF1 isn't like flying on an airliner. Liberal In Texas May 12 #13

Cardiovascularly, flying poses threats PCIntern May 12 #16

Even if you can move around in AF1 unlike on an airliner, the cabin in any airplane Ocelot II May 12 #34

Lower, probably 6,000 with upgrades Aviation Pro May 12 #53

Hmm. Pushing the limits on the skin of an aging beast . . Maru Kitteh May 12 #65

No doubt the mechanics Aviation Pro May 12 #73

--- and he's gotta do it two times. 3Hotdogs May 12 #74

why must you use that bedroom talk FHRRK1 May 13 #79

Not only @ 47,000 feet but in the middle of the Pacific Ocean too. Botany May 13 #84

And we all know how much Jabba loves to move around. tavernier May 13 #88

True. Liberal In Texas May 12 #71

It's still pressurized COL Mustard May 12 #28

But considering who it is catchnrelease May 13 #95

You are now free to move about the cabin.... Blue Owl May 12 #14

Do you know why he flies so much? To catch lightning in the sky and not just wait for it to show up. usonian May 12 #15

Well done with lots of ketchup. PCIntern May 12 #41

Hey Orrex! Blood clots in the legs often occur during looooong plane trips. no_hypocrisy May 12 #17

Death Ride dave99 May 12 #19

Don't threaten me with a good time. nclib May 12 #21

Don't give us false hope, PC. He hasn't even designed the royal crypt yet. Vinca May 12 #22

Please make it happen. I can't keep my party planner on retainer much longer. NoMoreRepugs May 12 #23

I hope he gets a double dose of hypoxia on the flight Aviation Pro May 12 #25

Oh Please haryn May 12 #26

I'm just rooting for bedridden IbogaProject May 12 #27

MY fervent wish: AZ8theist May 12 #68

May it be so! niyad May 12 #75

If Krasnov is such a great negotiator... ultralite001 May 12 #29

You're saying mercuryblues May 12 #30

Hate to rain on the parade, but he's going to be just fine. Fil1957 May 12 #31

Someday he won't be. Ocelot II May 12 #35

True, but not as soon as people hope or think it will be. Fil1957 May 12 #36

You never know... Ocelot II May 12 #37

Yes, you never know -- one can always hope, but don't count on it. Fil1957 May 12 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Katinfl May 12 #56

Sorry I am tired of being disappointed Bluestocking May 12 #32

Maybe that's what JD and the Project 2025 crowd are counting on. ChicagoTeamster May 12 #33

Bingo! OldBaldy1701E May 13 #82

I personally want the champagne to break out whole reading an Orrex... NNadir May 12 #38

I'm starting to lose my faith in WH doctors. Trmp has had four physicals this year and .... eppur_se_muova May 12 #40

Why... he could live to 200!!! PCIntern May 12 #42

It's already past 1600 here ! nt eppur_se_muova May 12 #44

I recommend sitting stationary the entire flight. 33taw May 12 #43

I want my free beer from the world famous, and owner of, and running for WI Govenor, Minocqua Brewing Co a kennedy May 12 #45

If only JV Vance was going along too. NBachers May 12 #47

Ah, interesting Joinfortmill May 12 #49

That also crossed my mind BeneteauBum May 12 #50

Sicily 2017 bmichaelh May 12 #51

His doctor also said he weighs 220 pounds... Unrepentant Fenian May 12 #52

Ah, thank you! That cheered me right up! niyad May 12 #54

Good!! AverageOldGuy May 12 #57

. Hassin Bin Sober May 12 #58

For all the travel. especially the flying, he does, Totally Tunsie May 12 #59

No doubt aka JD is busy praying the rosary Hassler May 12 #60

Thank 😊 you Faux pas May 12 #62

Maybe it's finally time to chill a small bottle of champagne. Ilsa May 12 #63

I've had two bottles chilling since the election. Totally Tunsie May 12 #72

My friends and I all keep bubbly on chill for that longed-for moment. niyad May 13 #76

Relax, people GenThePerservering May 12 #64

My mother told me three people she knows got very sick BigmanPigman May 12 #66

There's no circulation of "fresh" air on an airplane FakeNoose May 13 #94

How come masks won't help much? BigmanPigman May 13 #98

Maybe it's one way! Hope22 May 12 #67

Don't get people's hopes up D_Master81 May 12 #69

The reduced air pressure will probably help with his swelling. Orrex May 12 #70

Like mitt romney's dog on the family car. niyad May 13 #77

Air Force One would make a perfectly good nursing home. carpetbagger May 13 #78

I hope he'll be ok.../s MiHale May 13 #81

SSSHHHHH!!!! Swede May 13 #83

A local "pool" I'm aware of has tomorrow as the first AllyCat May 13 #85

The thing is that none of us "know" onenote May 13 #86

I don't know anything PCIntern May 13 #87

Personally, I heartily endorse his brave temptation of fate in taking this trip... ihaveaquestion May 13 #91

May Barry the bloodclot grow and travel! Sanity Claws May 13 #92

I think that's the reason Melania stayed home FakeNoose May 13 #93

Good....maybe we can make it a recurring event. (n/t) Moostache May 13 #96