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42. Wow. Not sure I expected that.

Sat May 16, 2026, 08:08 AM

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Is the Democratic Party the party for neo-cons or has Kristol had a change of heart?

I really can’t tell if this change is good or not. I don’t know if the party has gotten worse or he has gotten better. I think he’s enjoyed his time in the left wing sphere and wants to stick around. There’s a bunch of people like him on the Democrats side now and many of them are in the Bukwark wing. Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, possibly David Frum, and others. I like what some of them bring to the party but I will always be skeptical of Kristol.

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Bill Kristol announcement: [View all] Kingofalldems Friday OP

Will wonders never cease? greatauntoftriplets Friday #1

Pigs fly today BlueWaveNeverEnd Yesterday #19

I guess that's one big Tent then!! Ars Longa 13 hrs ago #102

What the hell?.................... Lovie777 Friday #2

Hope that SOB is in prison soon chicoescuela Friday #3

A major problem is that the Israeli opposition is so fractured DavidDvorkin Friday #4

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #34

What does this have to do with Bill Kristol? yardwork 14 hrs ago #89

Did you post this because Kristol is Jewish? yardwork 13 hrs ago #97

Sod Off Kristol...",,Kristol is credited with launching Palin's career." irisblue Friday #5

I seem to have missed his apology for all the shitty things FoxNewsSucks Friday #6

and he's still saying them but just "constructive criticism" mountain grammy 14 hrs ago #91

What? Ya don't like comedy. Alcohol fueled, hockey mom was the funniest thing to come along in years. m 3Hotdogs Yesterday #16

Her qualifications for VP: "I can see Russia from my house." (SNL made it her kitchen). CTyankee 18 hrs ago #61

Welcome to the big tent.... reACTIONary Friday #7

Bill Kristol is just like Charlie Sykes. Dr. T Friday #8

Just another rat jumping a sinking ship. wnylib 15 hrs ago #78

Your Antifa membership card is in the mail, Bill. LudwigPastorius Friday #9

Holy fuck swong19104 Friday #10

Good. betsuni Friday #11

"former Republicans know that the problem is Republicans and don't waste time nitpicking Democrats." Wiz Imp Yesterday #14

Yes, I like your important point.. and just Cha Yesterday #20

Hard agree. ShazzieB 14 hrs ago #94

Hey, anybody here remember the Clinton health care plan? He helped niyad Friday #12

Yep. He and those of his ilk Susan Calvin 18 hrs ago #55

Yes, but maybe focus on the WHY he says he's now a Democrat RandomNumbers 17 hrs ago #66

I blame him for getting us to this point ... aggiesal Friday #13

30-40 years too late and a lifetime of damage he helped create JHB Yesterday #15

It's beginning to look as though not fooled Yesterday #31

That's symptomatic of all Repuglicans. Dr. T 19 hrs ago #49

And/or if he starts to advocate for policies he once tried to kill. cab67 14 hrs ago #90

Uhm WOW ... live love laugh Yesterday #17

It's Never Too Late. Welcome to the Cha Yesterday #18

Let him prove his worth before giving him welcomes JHB Yesterday #24

Oh sorry... I'm welcoming him now. Cha Yesterday #28

Love ya Cha, but our points of view diverge on this JHB Yesterday #36

Backatcha, JHB. As Zambero pointed out Cha Yesterday #37

I agree. If he "relapses" we can always kick him out... CTyankee 18 hrs ago #64

Also: enough of these defections can create an avalanche in the GOP nt lostnfound 3 hrs ago #110

Look! We need all the help we can get. broiles 18 hrs ago #58

I don't know why people are upset. He's not running for office, has no influence on the party and policy. betsuni 18 hrs ago #62

Right? People can change .. look at Cha 10 hrs ago #104

Full circle. Dem, Rep, Ind, Dem phxjurist Yesterday #21

Kristol was a never-Trumper from the get-go Zambero Yesterday #22

Mahalo, Zambero! Cha Yesterday #29

And he was only a Republican on the whole wars for freedom bs JI7 Yesterday #32

I repeat. The Clinton Health Care program. PNAC. And those just off niyad 15 hrs ago #77

And he was only a Republican on the whole wars for freedom bs JI7 Yesterday #33

i read his articles in my local newspaper, and you're right. JohnnyRingo 19 hrs ago #48

THIS orangecrush 17 hrs ago #67

Not me Cirsium Yesterday #23

Kristol never supported Trump or MAGA. Random Boomer 17 hrs ago #65

OK Cirsium 15 hrs ago #79

He is not a liberal, he just realizes what a mess we are in these days. Pompoy Yesterday #25

He has always opposed Trump. He was never MAGA JI7 Yesterday #30

*sigh*....... RockRaven Yesterday #26

Perhaps... tavernier 18 hrs ago #57

I'll believe it when Trump delivers him plutonium pizzas. usonian Yesterday #27

Look at that makeup! calimary 11 hrs ago #103

He doesn't care. Because his cult doesn't care. It might, in fact, be a fetish with them, like a golden calf. usonian 8 hrs ago #108

As any reasonable AMERICAN would now be, who has two brain cells Jack Valentino Yesterday #35

This is what has to happen for the Republican party to be no more. Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #38

He was "independent" from 2021 to yesterday. He was registered niyad 15 hrs ago #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #39

Mr PNAC himself, aye? Ruby the Liberal 20 hrs ago #40

And are you pro-choice? milestogo 20 hrs ago #41

I'm seeing some signs that he now is Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #43

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #45

I'm not commenting on the rightness or wrongness of it Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #46

Wow. Not sure I expected that. Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #42

Neoconservative Neoliberal Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #75

Limited govt, pro freedom, no mention of climate change jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #44

It's weird to judge when you don't know the answer. Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #47

Good ol' Bloody Kristal... fuck off. BradBo 19 hrs ago #50

If Bill Kristol had any honor he would go out to his garage and start his car and let it run without Botany 19 hrs ago #51

+1 leftstreet 18 hrs ago #56

All the things he said Democrats were against mountain grammy 14 hrs ago #93

We need all the support we can get BillJoeBobBeauregard 19 hrs ago #52

Is the Democratic tent that "big"? kentuck 19 hrs ago #53

Ha! Hell Hath Almost Frozen Over. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #54

Well, At Least He Didn't Equivocate And Turn "Independent." ColoringFool 18 hrs ago #59

He was listed as independent from 2021 to yesterday. niyad 15 hrs ago #82

Fine. But Today Is Today, Is It Not? Meanwhile, We Heap Praise On Liz Cheney.... ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #96

This message was self-deleted by its author niyad 13 hrs ago #98

Today does not exist in a vacuum, and I have a fairly decent, and niyad 13 hrs ago #99

Weren't you going... czarjak 18 hrs ago #60

If Franklin Roosevelt could work with Joesph Stalin... NNadir 18 hrs ago #63

Wow! City Lights 17 hrs ago #68

The World Turned Upside Down obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #69

In the words of Elaine, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE.......Ok, if this is true.......Hell HAS FROZRN OVER. a kennedy 17 hrs ago #70

Democrat now? Belief? 3825-87867 16 hrs ago #71

Regarding Government, Democrats believe Glaisne 16 hrs ago #72

The world turned upside down. Tommy Carcetti 16 hrs ago #73

They're ice skating in hell right now. SergeStorms 16 hrs ago #74

Ugh. After helping to wreck democracy, now he's sorry? yardwork 15 hrs ago #76

Call me skeptical of anything Mr. PNAC says. Ritabert 15 hrs ago #80

The Democratic Party is now the conservative party Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #81

. MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #84

I don't give a shit. I guarantee Kristal would never support the democratic policies I want in the Dem platform. Nanjeanne 15 hrs ago #85

Like "pro-choice", "pro-19A", etc., etc., niyad 14 hrs ago #87

Not sure what policies are considered "etc. etc." As I said I want more than those 3 policies he already mentioned. Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #109

kick Dawson Leery 15 hrs ago #86

It takes alliances in politics sometimes, doesn't mean I trust him beyond the alliance themaguffin 14 hrs ago #88

Democrats are advocates of limited government. J_William_Ryan 14 hrs ago #92

Kristol may say that, but what really has happened is his party can no longer legitimately call themselves GoodRaisin 9 hrs ago #106

Smarmy weasel. ZZenith 14 hrs ago #95

Forgive me if I am highly skeptical. mwmisses4289 13 hrs ago #100

To paraphrase The Politics Bar MurrayDelph 13 hrs ago #101

Perhaps this portends a political realignment of Deminpenn 9 hrs ago #105

Isn't Bill Kristol always wrong? Festivito 9 hrs ago #107

Historically the neocons started out as dems... WarGamer 3 hrs ago #111