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Cirsium

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79. OK

Sat May 16, 2026, 12:51 PM

21 hrs ago

We demand more of each other than we ask of these various conservatives, yet another example of how unlevel the playing field is. Hardly a day goes by without progressives getting bashed, but monstrous conservatives are welcomed into the tent on the slimmest of pretexts. He doesn't like Trump. Whoop dee doo.

The entire Bulwark team of conservatives is working as hard as they can to distance themselves from Trump. Their voices do not reach any audience that is resistant to Democratic messaging. Their voices reach an audience that is resistant to Trump's style of conservative messaging.

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Pigs fly today BlueWaveNeverEnd Yesterday #19

I guess that's one big Tent then!! Ars Longa 18 hrs ago #102

What the hell?.................... Lovie777 Friday #2

Hope that SOB is in prison soon chicoescuela Friday #3

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What does this have to do with Bill Kristol? yardwork 20 hrs ago #89

Did you post this because Kristol is Jewish? yardwork 19 hrs ago #97

Sod Off Kristol...",,Kristol is credited with launching Palin's career." irisblue Friday #5

I seem to have missed his apology for all the shitty things FoxNewsSucks Friday #6

and he's still saying them but just "constructive criticism" mountain grammy 20 hrs ago #91

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Welcome to the big tent.... reACTIONary Friday #7

Bill Kristol is just like Charlie Sykes. Dr. T Friday #8

Just another rat jumping a sinking ship. wnylib 21 hrs ago #78

Your Antifa membership card is in the mail, Bill. LudwigPastorius Friday #9

Holy fuck swong19104 Friday #10

Good. betsuni Friday #11

"former Republicans know that the problem is Republicans and don't waste time nitpicking Democrats." Wiz Imp Yesterday #14

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Hard agree. ShazzieB 19 hrs ago #94

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Yep. He and those of his ilk Susan Calvin Yesterday #55

Yes, but maybe focus on the WHY he says he's now a Democrat RandomNumbers 23 hrs ago #66

I blame him for getting us to this point ... aggiesal Friday #13

30-40 years too late and a lifetime of damage he helped create JHB Yesterday #15

It's beginning to look as though not fooled Yesterday #31

That's symptomatic of all Repuglicans. Dr. T Yesterday #49

And/or if he starts to advocate for policies he once tried to kill. cab67 20 hrs ago #90

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It's Never Too Late. Welcome to the Cha Yesterday #18

Let him prove his worth before giving him welcomes JHB Yesterday #24

Oh sorry... I'm welcoming him now. Cha Yesterday #28

Love ya Cha, but our points of view diverge on this JHB Yesterday #36

Backatcha, JHB. As Zambero pointed out Cha Yesterday #37

I agree. If he "relapses" we can always kick him out... CTyankee 23 hrs ago #64

Also: enough of these defections can create an avalanche in the GOP nt lostnfound 9 hrs ago #110

Look! We need all the help we can get. broiles Yesterday #58

I don't know why people are upset. He's not running for office, has no influence on the party and policy. betsuni 23 hrs ago #62

Right? People can change .. look at Cha 15 hrs ago #104

Full circle. Dem, Rep, Ind, Dem phxjurist Yesterday #21

Kristol was a never-Trumper from the get-go Zambero Yesterday #22

Mahalo, Zambero! Cha Yesterday #29

And he was only a Republican on the whole wars for freedom bs JI7 Yesterday #32

I repeat. The Clinton Health Care program. PNAC. And those just off niyad 21 hrs ago #77

And he was only a Republican on the whole wars for freedom bs JI7 Yesterday #33

i read his articles in my local newspaper, and you're right. JohnnyRingo Yesterday #48

THIS orangecrush 22 hrs ago #67

Not me Cirsium Yesterday #23

Kristol never supported Trump or MAGA. Random Boomer 23 hrs ago #65

OK Cirsium 21 hrs ago #79

He is not a liberal, he just realizes what a mess we are in these days. Pompoy Yesterday #25

He has always opposed Trump. He was never MAGA JI7 Yesterday #30

*sigh*....... RockRaven Yesterday #26

Perhaps... tavernier Yesterday #57

I'll believe it when Trump delivers him plutonium pizzas. usonian Yesterday #27

Look at that makeup! calimary 17 hrs ago #103

He doesn't care. Because his cult doesn't care. It might, in fact, be a fetish with them, like a golden calf. usonian 14 hrs ago #108

As any reasonable AMERICAN would now be, who has two brain cells Jack Valentino Yesterday #35

This is what has to happen for the Republican party to be no more. Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #38

He was "independent" from 2021 to yesterday. He was registered niyad 21 hrs ago #83

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Mr PNAC himself, aye? Ruby the Liberal Yesterday #40

And are you pro-choice? milestogo Yesterday #41

I'm seeing some signs that he now is Renew Deal Yesterday #43

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I'm not commenting on the rightness or wrongness of it Renew Deal Yesterday #46

Wow. Not sure I expected that. Renew Deal Yesterday #42

Neoconservative Neoliberal Soul_of_Wit 21 hrs ago #75

Limited govt, pro freedom, no mention of climate change jfz9580m Yesterday #44

It's weird to judge when you don't know the answer. Renew Deal Yesterday #47

Good ol' Bloody Kristal... fuck off. BradBo Yesterday #50

If Bill Kristol had any honor he would go out to his garage and start his car and let it run without Botany Yesterday #51

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All the things he said Democrats were against mountain grammy 20 hrs ago #93

We need all the support we can get BillJoeBobBeauregard Yesterday #52

Is the Democratic tent that "big"? kentuck Yesterday #53

Ha! Hell Hath Almost Frozen Over. Joinfortmill Yesterday #54

Well, At Least He Didn't Equivocate And Turn "Independent." ColoringFool Yesterday #59

He was listed as independent from 2021 to yesterday. niyad 21 hrs ago #82

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Today does not exist in a vacuum, and I have a fairly decent, and niyad 19 hrs ago #99

Weren't you going... czarjak Yesterday #60

If Franklin Roosevelt could work with Joesph Stalin... NNadir 23 hrs ago #63

Wow! City Lights 22 hrs ago #68

The World Turned Upside Down obamanut2012 22 hrs ago #69

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Democrat now? Belief? 3825-87867 22 hrs ago #71

Regarding Government, Democrats believe Glaisne 22 hrs ago #72

The world turned upside down. Tommy Carcetti 22 hrs ago #73

They're ice skating in hell right now. SergeStorms 21 hrs ago #74

Ugh. After helping to wreck democracy, now he's sorry? yardwork 21 hrs ago #76

Call me skeptical of anything Mr. PNAC says. Ritabert 21 hrs ago #80

The Democratic Party is now the conservative party Soul_of_Wit 21 hrs ago #81

. MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #84

I don't give a shit. I guarantee Kristal would never support the democratic policies I want in the Dem platform. Nanjeanne 20 hrs ago #85

Like "pro-choice", "pro-19A", etc., etc., niyad 20 hrs ago #87

Not sure what policies are considered "etc. etc." As I said I want more than those 3 policies he already mentioned. Nanjeanne 12 hrs ago #109

Would Democrats support those policies? Renew Deal 2 hrs ago #113

kick Dawson Leery 20 hrs ago #86

It takes alliances in politics sometimes, doesn't mean I trust him beyond the alliance themaguffin 20 hrs ago #88

Democrats are advocates of limited government. J_William_Ryan 20 hrs ago #92

Kristol may say that, but what really has happened is his party can no longer legitimately call themselves GoodRaisin 15 hrs ago #106

Smarmy weasel. ZZenith 19 hrs ago #95

Forgive me if I am highly skeptical. mwmisses4289 19 hrs ago #100

To paraphrase The Politics Bar MurrayDelph 18 hrs ago #101

Perhaps this portends a political realignment of Deminpenn 15 hrs ago #105

Isn't Bill Kristol always wrong? Festivito 15 hrs ago #107

Historically the neocons started out as dems... WarGamer 9 hrs ago #111

What does he mean? "so just-for today" or "so starting today" QueerDuck 3 hrs ago #112

I've become a regular listener of Bill Kristol. Which initially felt SO WRONG. Maru Kitteh 2 hrs ago #114