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SpankMe

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12. Seems like an attractive option at first

Mon May 18, 2026, 11:00 AM

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But, leaving the US because of Trump is like moving to Mars because of overcrowding on Earth.

So much has to be done to Mars to make it livable that it's easier to try and fix our problems on Earth.

Most other countries with similar freedoms and qualities of life to the US are hard to get into for the long term. The US has (until Trump, anyway) a generally easier path to citizenship than these other countries.

When people were fleeing genicodes and literal daily threats to their lives, they could come to America. But as Americans, there's really nowhere else for us to go. This is it. This is the top. The end of the line. There is no more. At this point, we have to stay and fight.

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Americans are leaving the U.S. in record numbers and spending hundreds to learn how to do it - CNBC [View all] BlueWavePsych Yesterday OP

I think millions of others would if they could Johnny2X2X Yesterday #1

Conference guests paid between roughly $500 to $1,000 for tickets to the weekend's events RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #2

I have no use for this n/t Ziggy Beans Yesterday #3

Didn't need a conference. I did my.own research. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #4

I Have a Better Idea Mr.Bee Yesterday #5

We need to stay and fight Easterncedar Yesterday #6

History Cirsium Yesterday #23

Indeed Easterncedar Yesterday #24

We are so close to prevailing, though nuxvomica Yesterday #25

Yep. mn9driver Yesterday #7

My grandparents knew when it was time to go mountain grammy Yesterday #8

my grandparents came here BonnieJW Yesterday #16

My uncle escaped Russia.. he was 6 mountain grammy Yesterday #18

"Spending hundreds" Prairie Gates Yesterday #9

Wonder what the demographics are of those leaving? Wounded Bear Yesterday #10

My daughter is leaving in August AverageOldGuy Yesterday #11

Seems like an attractive option at first SpankMe Yesterday #12

By many accounts, the US is one of the top 5 hardest places to obtain citizenship. Ms. Toad Yesterday #20

The Slow Boiling of Frogs 2na fisherman Yesterday #13

Well said misanthrope Yesterday #17

I did it already sdfernando Yesterday #14

Is the US government still letting citizens escape? Farmer-Rick Yesterday #15

That cartoon says it all..a dark time it is. Passages Yesterday #19

It is unlikely I'll leave anytime soon - Ms. Toad Yesterday #21

Keep you passport current pfitz59 Yesterday #22

Good advice Old Crank 21 hrs ago #29

My wife rambler_american Yesterday #26

My mother was born in Canada. Her German parents settled there. BarbD Yesterday #27

Wish I could leave I_UndergroundPanther Yesterday #28

We left pre T I. Old Crank 20 hrs ago #30

For a quick overview of some country options Old Crank 20 hrs ago #31